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  1. #421
    Originally Posted by PositiveVariance View Post

    Overall, I generally stay away from politics. Generally on the most controversial issues, I tend to leam Conservative. Then there are a lot of issues I dont have a strong opinion on either way, primarily because I am not interested in taking the time to do the research that is needed. For example, Global Warming, I just don't know enough about it to take a hard stance. I feel someone would have to put in at least 20 hours of research to form a good opinion about it, probably far more --which I am not willing to do.

    Something like the death penality, I believe around 80% of Republicans are for it. I am STRONGLY against it. I feel no man, or jury has the right to kill another man. Besides, it's more painfull to sit behind bars on Death Row for the rest of your life. If they are in general population, it's not so bad. I would possibly change my opinion if there was a way that we could determine guilt of death penality cases with 100% certainty (The kind of certainty we have against Singers $1.5 Million VP claim (⁠•⁠‿⁠•⁠)) Even if 1 out of 10,000 is wrongly convicted in a DP case, that isnt acceptable. Almost 200 former Death Roe inmates have been set free. Without technology, they would have been cooked, jabbed, or shot, depending on your states method to end their life.

    What is funny is probably 75% of my friends or close associates are Democrats/Liberal. None of the people I hang out with have really strong political beliefs, because it bores me and I won't hang out with them if the bulk of their conversation is politics.
    You can read from people who have studied global warming for 20 years. You can find many people who have done this. I was very aware of it 20 years ago as many were. Now you can believe it is all political but that is absurd. One side you have a 99% of successful scientists agreeing with and other 1% you have Youtube quacks.(made up #s but probably not that far off these days) I don't think they're all grifters some genuinely believe their nonsense. Take any scientific position that impacts society and you'll find someone with their biases against it. Those who strongly identify with independence tend to follow those types. You know, the rebels!

    Not sure what to make of the death penalty. Lots of hard right people not for it because they don't like the state having that much power. I agree with your stance.

    The problem with politics is most people who are strongly on one-side identify so strongly they have to defend every little thing with whataboutisms. They're unable to take the criticism like they should. Simpletons.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  2. #422
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    The problem with politics is most people who are strongly on one-side identify so strongly they have to defend every little thing with whataboutisms. They're unable to take the criticism like they should. Simpletons.
    Whatabout whataboutism? That's the problem with criticizing whataboutism. Whatabout whataboutism is a....wait for it....whataboutism.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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  5. #425
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    The problem with politics is most people who are strongly on one-side identify so strongly they have to defend every little thing with whataboutisms. They're unable to take the criticism like they should. Simpletons.
    Whatabout whataboutism? That's the problem with criticizing whataboutism. Whatabout whataboutism is a....wait for it....whataboutism.
    The problem is if you use whataboutism you can justify anything. It basically just continually lowers the bar. It is the sort of thinking that makes corruption endemic to a society.

    You could literally give me anything and I can give you whataboutism.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  6. #426
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    The problem with politics is most people who are strongly on one-side identify so strongly they have to defend every little thing with whataboutisms. They're unable to take the criticism like they should. Simpletons.
    Whatabout whataboutism? That's the problem with criticizing whataboutism. Whatabout whataboutism is a....wait for it....whataboutism.
    The problem is if you use whataboutism you can justify anything. It basically just continually lowers the bar. It is the sort of thinking that makes corruption endemic to a society.

    You could literally give me anything and I can give you whataboutism.
    Trump takes classified documents that he was entitled to declassify and take.

    Biden stole classified documents he could not lawfully remove from Capitol Hill and kept them for years.

    Trump gets charged but Biden doesn't.

    So if anyone says, "hey Trump got charged but what about Biden? Biden should have been charged."

    You think it is wrong to say "What about Biden?"

    There is a thing in the constitution about equal protection under the law. It is all about whataboutism.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  7. #427
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Whatabout whataboutism? That's the problem with criticizing whataboutism. Whatabout whataboutism is a....wait for it....whataboutism.
    The problem is if you use whataboutism you can justify anything. It basically just continually lowers the bar. It is the sort of thinking that makes corruption endemic to a society.

    You could literally give me anything and I can give you whataboutism.
    Trump takes classified documents that he was entitled to declassify and take.

    Biden stole classified documents he could not lawfully remove from Capitol Hill and kept them for years.

    Trump gets charged but Biden doesn't.

    So if anyone says, "hey Trump got charged but what about Biden? Biden should have been charged."

    You think it is wrong to say "What about Biden?"

    There is a thing in the constitution about equal protection under the law. It is all about whataboutism.
    I was trying to figure out why you brought this back to Trump. I specifically tried to leave that out of it. I really don't care about the fucker since he is no longer President.

    but I had to ask ... "Why is Mickey so obsessed he brings Trump back up?"

    Then I realized I had used a term recently made popular in use against right-wingers. Previously I called it the 'grand excuse' or maybe 'golden excuse' but then I started to see whataboutism being widely used so I started using that term. Makes sense, no?

    But then one might ask, why did this come to be a thing during Trump's years?

    It must be the fact you have such a rotten sleazeball president but you also have the strongest sense of fandom/manlove ever seen in my lifetime. When you take people sooo attached to a man who has done so many sleazy things .. they're going to have to justify themselves. The more sleazy the person the more they have to do this.

    Wallah! whataboutism. aka golden excuse.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  8. #428
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    The problem is if you use whataboutism you can justify anything. It basically just continually lowers the bar. It is the sort of thinking that makes corruption endemic to a society.

    You could literally give me anything and I can give you whataboutism.
    Trump takes classified documents that he was entitled to declassify and take.

    Biden stole classified documents he could not lawfully remove from Capitol Hill and kept them for years.

    Trump gets charged but Biden doesn't.

    So if anyone says, "hey Trump got charged but what about Biden? Biden should have been charged."

    You think it is wrong to say "What about Biden?"

    There is a thing in the constitution about equal protection under the law. It is all about whataboutism.
    I was trying to figure out why you brought this back to Trump. I specifically tried to leave that out of it. I really don't care about the fucker since he is no longer President.

    but I had to ask ... "Why is Mickey so obsessed he brings Trump back up?"

    Then I realized I had used a term recently made popular in use against right-wingers. Previously I called it the 'grand excuse' or maybe 'golden excuse' but then I started to see whataboutism being widely used so I started using that term. Makes sense, no?

    But then one might ask, why did this come to be a thing during Trump's years?

    It must be the fact you have such a rotten sleazeball president but you also have the strongest sense of fandom/manlove ever seen in my lifetime. When you take people sooo attached to a man who has done so many sleazy things .. they're going to have to justify themselves. The more sleazy the person the more they have to do this.

    Wallah! whataboutism. aka golden excuse.
    Once again you have to resort to insults because you don't have a cogent argument. Trump/Biden is just the most obvious example right now, the only reason I used it is everybody knows about it. No explaining needed.

    Those who criticize whataboutisms are saying "whatabout whataboutisms?" You are doing it yourselves. You are either to stupid to know it or you are a hypocrite.

    Those who criticize whataboutisms want their cake and eat it to. They are justifying double standards. They don't want their double standards being exposed. So they bash whataboutisms. Like that will win an argument. No chance.

    And since you want to insult me about my Trump support, just so you know, two can play that game, climatard.

    And whoever you support for president. It will be because of your manlove for him, climatard.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 06-09-2023 at 09:12 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #429
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    The problem is if you use whataboutism you can justify anything. It basically just continually lowers the bar. It is the sort of thinking that makes corruption endemic to a society.

    You could literally give me anything and I can give you whataboutism.
    Trump takes classified documents that he was entitled to declassify and take.

    Biden stole classified documents he could not lawfully remove from Capitol Hill and kept them for years.

    Trump gets charged but Biden doesn't.

    So if anyone says, "hey Trump got charged but what about Biden? Biden should have been charged."

    You think it is wrong to say "What about Biden?"

    There is a thing in the constitution about equal protection under the law. It is all about whataboutism.
    I was trying to figure out why you brought this back to Trump. I specifically tried to leave that out of it. I really don't care about the fucker since he is no longer President.

    but I had to ask ... "Why is Mickey so obsessed he brings Trump back up?"

    Then I realized I had used a term recently made popular in use against right-wingers. Previously I called it the 'grand excuse' or maybe 'golden excuse' but then I started to see whataboutism being widely used so I started using that term. Makes sense, no?

    But then one might ask, why did this come to be a thing during Trump's years?

    It must be the fact you have such a rotten sleazeball president but you also have the strongest sense of fandom/manlove ever seen in my lifetime. When you take people sooo attached to a man who has done so many sleazy things .. they're going to have to justify themselves. The more sleazy the person the more they have to do this.

    Wallah! whataboutism. aka golden excuse.
    AQ, people who support Trump only do so because he isn't a politician and he came into office as a clever businessman who got many important things done to help our country. He will eventually go down as one of our greatest achievers as president, if he isn't already. No one REALLY cares if he's "sleazy" in his personal life, just as the democrats never cared about the slimeball things Kennedy or Clinton did. They all served this country well. And people realize that. The US is currently being "led" by a doddling old fool who is a sore thumb on our world stage, even if he and his administration are being silently controlled by Obama and his team.

    Trump is under unfair politically motivated indictments just as Netanyahu was. He got re-elected because people saw thru the smoke. Let's hope Trump does so we can watch our country climb back onto its feet without constantly being laughed at by China.

  10. #430
    Both Trump and Biden are simply too fucking old.

    Time for new guys.
    What, Me Worry?

  11. #431
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Trump takes classified documents that he was entitled to declassify and take.

    Biden stole classified documents he could not lawfully remove from Capitol Hill and kept them for years.

    Trump gets charged but Biden doesn't.

    So if anyone says, "hey Trump got charged but what about Biden? Biden should have been charged."

    You think it is wrong to say "What about Biden?"

    There is a thing in the constitution about equal protection under the law. It is all about whataboutism.
    I was trying to figure out why you brought this back to Trump. I specifically tried to leave that out of it. I really don't care about the fucker since he is no longer President.

    but I had to ask ... "Why is Mickey so obsessed he brings Trump back up?"

    Then I realized I had used a term recently made popular in use against right-wingers. Previously I called it the 'grand excuse' or maybe 'golden excuse' but then I started to see whataboutism being widely used so I started using that term. Makes sense, no?

    But then one might ask, why did this come to be a thing during Trump's years?

    It must be the fact you have such a rotten sleazeball president but you also have the strongest sense of fandom/manlove ever seen in my lifetime. When you take people sooo attached to a man who has done so many sleazy things .. they're going to have to justify themselves. The more sleazy the person the more they have to do this.

    Wallah! whataboutism. aka golden excuse.
    AQ, people who support Trump only do so because he isn't a politician and he came into office as a clever businessman who got many important things done to help our country. He will eventually go down as one of our greatest achievers as president, if he isn't already. No one REALLY cares if he's "sleazy" in his personal life, just as the democrats never cared about the slimeball things Kennedy or Clinton did. They all served this country well. And people realize that. The US is currently being "led" by a doddling old fool who is a sore thumb on our world stage, even if he and his administration are being silently controlled by Obama and his team.

    Trump is under unfair politically motivated indictments just as Netanyahu was. He got re-elected because people saw thru the smoke. Let's hope Trump does so we can watch our country climb back onto its feet without constantly being laughed at by China.
    Rob, you would love to see you're buddy Barrack Osama back as president. Remember the good old days when you spoke so highly of him at Rusty's house ?

  12. #432
    On the political scale, I’m about where I was growing up. Right-center to where most Democrats were.
    Now that everything has shifted so far left, being the same person, I have fallen off the scale to the right. Someone by today’s standards who should be ostracized, cancelled and stripped of free speech. (Not that it exists anymore)

  13. #433
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Trump takes classified documents that he was entitled to declassify and take.

    Biden stole classified documents he could not lawfully remove from Capitol Hill and kept them for years.

    Trump gets charged but Biden doesn't.

    So if anyone says, "hey Trump got charged but what about Biden? Biden should have been charged."

    You think it is wrong to say "What about Biden?"

    There is a thing in the constitution about equal protection under the law. It is all about whataboutism.
    I was trying to figure out why you brought this back to Trump. I specifically tried to leave that out of it. I really don't care about the fucker since he is no longer President.

    but I had to ask ... "Why is Mickey so obsessed he brings Trump back up?"

    Then I realized I had used a term recently made popular in use against right-wingers. Previously I called it the 'grand excuse' or maybe 'golden excuse' but then I started to see whataboutism being widely used so I started using that term. Makes sense, no?

    But then one might ask, why did this come to be a thing during Trump's years?

    It must be the fact you have such a rotten sleazeball president but you also have the strongest sense of fandom/manlove ever seen in my lifetime. When you take people sooo attached to a man who has done so many sleazy things .. they're going to have to justify themselves. The more sleazy the person the more they have to do this.

    Wallah! whataboutism. aka golden excuse.
    Once again you have to resort to insults because you don't have a cogent argument. Trump/Biden is just the most obvious example right now, the only reason I used it is everybody knows about it. No explaining needed.

    Those who criticize whataboutisms are saying "whatabout whataboutisms?" You are doing it yourselves. You are either to stupid to know it or you are a hypocrite.

    Those who criticize whataboutisms want their cake and eat it to. They are justifying double standards. They don't want their double standards being exposed. So they bash whataboutisms. Like that will win an argument. No chance.

    And since you want to insult me about my Trump support, just so you know, two can play that game, climatard.

    And whoever you support for president. It will be because of your manlove for him, climatard.
    People love Trump far beyond what anyone should for a politician. He stood for nothing but bullshit. I'm not sure where the "insults" were. You want to act like whataboutism (or whatever you wish to call it) isn't a thing... when it clearly is. It didn't start with Trump. Just the situation around Trump really brought it out.

    Your argument doesn't make much sense to me and I'll leave it at that. Double standards being exposed and such. I have no clue about the details of Trump or Biden or Hillary or Obama in regards to document handling. I thought GWB was accused of this at one point but cursory google search came up empty. These situations are never equal. After doing a search I did come across this which is LOL. Trump has no shame but I don't care to argue about it anymore. If you haven't wised up about the nature of that man then you never will.

    At a GOP campaign rally on Sunday in Arizona, former President Donald Trump took the opportunity to defend keeping classified documents by accusing past presidents of doing the same.

    Trump said many other presidents stored millions of pages of documents in warehouses, "some of them without front doors that worked."

    His speech erroneously claimed former President Barack Obama moved over 33 million pages of documents to a former furniture store in Chicago. The National Archives previously debunked this claim, saying they transported 30 million unclassified documents to a secure federal facility in Chicago.
    Trump is on a whole new level. Zero shits given about the truth. Now if the next guy is even shitier we'll be hearing "but what about Trump??". Lol screw that. Stand for something.

    Not going to comment on the climatard stuff. What is your take on all these insurance companies refusing to take on new clients? I'm sure you'll say business as usual. You're an interesting and ok guy but you will never be a man who ever changes his opinion. Maybe your biggest character flaw from what little I know of you.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  14. #434
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    AQ, people who support Trump only do so because he isn't a politician and he came into office as a clever businessman who got many important things done to help our country. He will eventually go down as one of our greatest achievers as president, if he isn't already. No one REALLY cares if he's "sleazy" in his personal life, just as the democrats never cared about the slimeball things Kennedy or Clinton did. They all served this country well. And people realize that. The US is currently being "led" by a doddling old fool who is a sore thumb on our world stage, even if he and his administration are being silently controlled by Obama and his team.

    Trump is under unfair politically motivated indictments just as Netanyahu was. He got re-elected because people saw thru the smoke. Let's hope Trump does so we can watch our country climb back onto its feet without constantly being laughed at by China.
    I like the idea of people not being politicians. I like the idea of businessmen if they are self-made.

    A guy who inherits enough money to hire people from the get-go is nothing special.

    Correction - They are special in that they were born into money.

    We clearly see this differently.

    There is a huge difference between born rich whiteboy and self-made man.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  15. #435
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    AQ, people who support Trump only do so because he isn't a politician and he came into office as a clever businessman who got many important things done to help our country. He will eventually go down as one of our greatest achievers as president, if he isn't already. No one REALLY cares if he's "sleazy" in his personal life, just as the democrats never cared about the slimeball things Kennedy or Clinton did. They all served this country well. And people realize that. The US is currently being "led" by a doddling old fool who is a sore thumb on our world stage, even if he and his administration are being silently controlled by Obama and his team.

    Trump is under unfair politically motivated indictments just as Netanyahu was. He got re-elected because people saw thru the smoke. Let's hope Trump does so we can watch our country climb back onto its feet without constantly being laughed at by China.
    I like the idea of people not being politicians. I like the idea of businessmen if they are self-made.

    A guy who inherits enough money to hire people from the get-go is nothing special.

    Correction - They are special in that they were born into money.

    We clearly see this differently.

    There is a huge difference between born rich whiteboy and self-made man.
    Someone like Trump who was born into money, certainly is open for criticism. But he has proven himself since, and many times over. He's been thru the good and the bad business wise, and has never missed a beat. Even now, with all the heat, he's proving he can hold his poll numbers politically. He's impressive in so many ways.

  16. #436
    Trump has demonstrated a fixed "slash and burn" approach to business throughout his life, and the same applies to his political maneuvers.

    A failed casino operator: hello, bankruptcies.

    C'mon, you people are supposed to be savvy gamblers: how can you possibly respect this guy?

    Casinos in AC back in the day basically had licenses to print money, and he blew it, multiple times.

    He's taken business bankruptcies SIX TIMES: and you want this loser to lead you?
    What, Me Worry?

  17. #437
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Trump has demonstrated a fixed "slash and burn" approach to business throughout his life, and the same applies to his political maneuvers.

    A failed casino operator: hello, bankruptcies.

    C'mon, you people are supposed to be savvy gamblers: how can you possibly respect this guy?

    Casinos in AC back in the day basically had licenses to print money, and he blew it, multiple times.

    He's taken business bankruptcies SIX TIMES: and you want this loser to lead you?
    All the other political leaders are 10X the losers that Trump is. That's why I support Trump. He's not as big a loser as those idiots. I think that's what AQ doesn't get. Who am I supposed to support instead of Trump? They are all neocon idiots.

    AQ whines because he can't get me to change my opinion. He wants me to change my opinion but he won't change his opinion. WTF is that? That's just how dumb these libtards are these days. He won't change his opinion but bitches about others won't change their opinions. GTFO!
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 06-09-2023 at 03:34 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #438
    Nothing wrong with supporting a Republican, Mickey.

    Based on what I've seen Pence would be the best choice; at least he's both loyal AND honorable.

    Sure, he's religious but I can live with that.
    What, Me Worry?

  19. #439
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Sure, he's religious but I can live with that.
    This fact here should disqualify anyone from running for public office as it proves that person is insane.

  20. #440
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Trump has demonstrated a fixed "slash and burn" approach to business throughout his life, and the same applies to his political maneuvers.

    A failed casino operator: hello, bankruptcies.

    C'mon, you people are supposed to be savvy gamblers: how can you possibly respect this guy?

    Casinos in AC back in the day basically had licenses to print money, and he blew it, multiple times.

    He's taken business bankruptcies SIX TIMES: and you want this loser to lead you?
    All the other political leaders are 10X the losers that Trump is. That's why I support Trump. He's not as big a loser as those idiots. I think that's what AQ doesn't get. Who am I supposed to support instead of Trump? They are all neocon idiots.

    AQ whines because he can't get me to change my opinion. He wants me to change my opinion but he won't change his opinion. WTF is that? That's just how dumb these libtards are these days. He won't change his opinion but bitches about others won't change their opinions. GTFO!
    Supporting is not anywhere the same as loving and worshiping. Come'on dude. Lets be real.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

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