Originally Posted by
Dan Druff
I have a lot of questions about this.
1) You seem to be especially concerned about your identity being known -- not just among casino personnel, but also among forum members. Wouldn't a lawsuit make your identity easy to deduce? If so, why would you post it here and bring our attention to it?
2) The broken arm is the most sensational part of this case. You say that it broke when they forced you into a chair. Can you elaborate more? Why weren't you given medical assistance immediately? I broke my arm in 1989, and it was very painful, especially in the time that followed, which was much worse than the break itself. Where did the arm break, and was it a full break, or just a fracture? I also had a fracture and it wasn't nearly as bad as the break.
3) Why did you not call your attorney immediately? Why did you wait until "the next morning"?
I am not doubting your story, just trying to understand here.
I have never been backroomed either, though I have gotten fairly close twice. About 20 years ago, a casino had security surround me with about 5 guards, right after the cashout, and demand my ID. This was in Vegas. I refused to give my ID, and when they asked why, my response was, "Because it's my right not to." The manager, who was female, looked like she was considering backrooming me, but ultimately settled upon just 86ing me. I made sure to keep my hands at my side the entire time, so nobody could attack me and claim self defense. I was led out, and the incident was over.
The other time was more recently at an Indian casino. I was confronted by security when redeeming freeplay on my own card, accused of multi-carding. I told them I was on my own card, and had no other cards with me. They demanded ID. I actually gave it because this was an Indian casino where I had no rights, and I had my girlfriend and kid waiting in the car for what was supposed to be a quick redemption of freeplay, on the way elsewhere! They then demanded I sign that I would never return, and that I would be arrested if I did. Again, I didn't have to do this, but I agreed. I also agreed to remove my hat for a better picture of me. Since I planned never to return anyway, this wasn't a huge deal. Again, in Vegas I wouldn't have agreed to any of this, but I didn't want to be detained for 8 hours while my family sat in the car in the middle of nowhere. With that, they actually let me cash out my ticket, and I left the property. I felt a huge relief as soon as I stepped out the door of that casino.
For those questioning why kewlJ "let them backroom him", it's not that simple. Ideally you will just walk out the door, but with security surrounding you and accusing you of cheating in some way, this could be considered an attempt to escape, and can justify physical force to detain you. I would refuse a backrooming and be loud about it if necessary, but I would not physically attempt to get away from them.