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    After someone sent me this thread, I had to make an account and post because holy shit bud. I read through this thread quickly and after ignoring all the weird hate speech and generic "casinos are evil" talk, here is what you need to do based on the facts you presented:

    Sue immediately. This will never go to trial, the media would never be involved, and they would settle at the very minimum for an insurance offer of like $50k+.

    Imagine you are on a jury of your peers and you get jury duty and you are presented with a case where a man is back-roomed by a casino for no legal reason and they literally fracture his arm like in the movie Casino. No one will side with the casino. The casino won't allow it to even get this far because they know they have 0 case.

    Look at the Virgin River lawsuit - the guys were held in a hotel room for 20 mins and won $200k. Another person I know sued Bellagio after being held in back room for 5 hours (no injury, no jail) and settled for $70k. Yet another person I know was tackled at a casino in Vegas and sued and settled for $80k a few months later. All of these cases were handled by Bob N.

    A lot of APs tend to have this delusion in their head (respectfully) that everyone in the world is out to get them and everyone is watching them. This won't go to trial and even if it did no other casino will hear or care about it and everyone will continue not knowing who you are.

    On a side note, having personally worked with Bob N on two prior cases, a few things don't add up here. Casinos don't hand out security footage just because a preservation of evidence was sent to them. They never want to turn anything over and fight against it. You would only get this in discovery after a lawsuit filing. Also, I've never heard Bob once advocate for a big media push. You haven't even filed a lawsuit yet.

    The prudent strategy here (if this is a genuine story):

    1. Have Bob send a demand letter threatening a lawsuit if no settlement. He will do this on a way lower fee/share of settlement if you get something before an actual lawsuit is filed.

    2. Then if they don't agree, file the lawsuit, but don't do any sort of media thing (which he would never recommend). Just wait to get a settlement. The MOST common tactic is to do discovery and wait until trial scheduling period. This is usually 1-2 years after the filing. Then like 1-4 weeks before the trial date offer a settlement. Casino has no incentive to pay you settlement now as opposed to 2 years from now.


    And hey, if all else fails, you can just fake your own death (again).

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    Originally Posted by IamQueensBlvd View Post
    This won't go to trial and even if it did no other casino will hear or care about it and everyone will continue not knowing who you are.
    Thank you for taking the time to create an account and share your advice, IamQueensBlvd. I could have done without the fake your own death again, dig, but that is ok.

    I have heard from so many AP's and players that aren't members here, even before I even posted sharing this experience.

    So my question pertains to this line quoted. Why do you think other casinos aren't going to learn of this? or care? That seems strange to me. Surely this kind of thing, even if settled "quietly" will get around the tight knit casino industry of Las Vegas if not other locations, no?

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by IamQueensBlvd View Post
    This won't go to trial and even if it did no other casino will hear or care about it and everyone will continue not knowing who you are.
    Thank you for taking the time to create an account and share your advice, IamQueensBlvd. I could have done without the fake your own death again, dig, but that is ok.

    I have heard from so many AP's and players that aren't members here, even before I even posted sharing this experience.

    So my question pertains to this line quoted. Why do you think other casinos aren't going to learn of this? or care? That seems strange to me. Surely this kind of thing, even if settled "quietly" will get around the tight knit casino industry of Las Vegas if not other locations, no?
    You could take JG for example - he is the most well known AP alive and he has been playing the same game for the last several years. Casinos are so much dumber than people think. Tommy Hyland has 100+ entries in OSN and has been playing for decades and even he is still able to play.

    The main overall thing is that it's not going to go to court and won't go to the media, so you'd be OK.

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    Originally Posted by IamQueensBlvd View Post

    You could take JG for example - he is the most well known AP alive and he has been playing the same game for the last several years. Casinos are so much dumber than people think. Tommy Hyland has 100+ entries in OSN and has been playing for decades and even he is still able to play.

    The main overall thing is that it's not going to go to court and won't go to the media, so you'd be OK.
    Thank you again for your reply.

    As per James: If I am not mistaken he did have a harder time in the years that immediately followed. On one of the blackjack forums, I think I remember him speaking of using disguises or attempting to use disguises for a short period.

    But yes, you are correct in that time heals all wounds, well maybe not all wounds, but many database related wounds, especially in this time of computerized databases. You just got to get off that first page or screen of the newest and latest entries. I have been dealing with that the past couple years.

    Cheers.

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    Not specific to IamQueensBlvd's comments, but my biggest concern about the databases is the reverse of what people might think.

    Lets say a person working the pit takes a look at OSN or other database looking for images of players to keep an eye out for. That is going to stay with that person a fairly short time, couple days at best.

    But it is when that same pit person looks at the database and sees a face they recognize and thinks or says "hey that guy plays here". Then whenever they see your face again, next week, next month, they will remember that you are in the database. It will take much longer for any "forgetting" to occur. I think this situation, maybe the beginning of burning out a location.

    As a regular at some places THAT is my bigger concern and has been over the last 18 months.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 04-21-2023 at 12:57 PM.

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    Kew, no one cares about all these posts you make talking about whether or not you'll have trouble playing in the future, about databases or about facial & name recognition stuff. And NO ONE GIVES A SHIT about how you supposedly might not be able to keep winning $100k/yr. because of this or that! Just stick to your usual nonsense about this. You talk too much anyway and it doesn't seem like you've learned a damn thing.

    I'm still waiting for you to post the things coach challenged you to post: ambulance receipt, police report, hospital documentation, etc. We don't need your name because EVERYBODY already has it you idiot. And while you're at it, let's see a picture of your arm-in-a-cast. Or is it in a sling?

    It wouldn't surprise anyone what bs turn this might take. You're always so full of shit that people are used to your lies and embellishments.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I'm still waiting for you to post the things coach challenged you to post: ambulance receipt, police report, hospital documentation, etc. We don't need your name because EVERYBODY already has it you idiot. And while you're at it, let's see a picture of your arm-in-a-cast. Or is it in a sling?
    You are waiting are you Rob? And you can keeping waiting. I have no reason or interest to entertain your nonsense....or that of a coach belly.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I'm still waiting for you to post the things coach challenged you to post: ambulance receipt, police report, hospital documentation, etc. We don't need your name because EVERYBODY already has it you idiot. And while you're at it, let's see a picture of your arm-in-a-cast. Or is it in a sling?
    You are waiting are you Rob? And you can keeping waiting. I have no reason or interest to entertain your nonsense....or that of a coach belly.
    But what a fool like you should WANT to do is take me up on my offer: instead of messing around with Mr.33% on this fiasco (or whatever lesser amount you've been promised if all the old fart has to do is send over a Demand letter) I'll guide you thru this and communicate with the casino/hospital/police for NO FEE WHATSOEVER. I'll get you a SP settlement that'll make your head spin....if you're not lying or embellishing this incident.

    How can I do this? Because I'm smarter than Nersesian and I don't need the money. I've already brought SP to their knees once with the LV ultimate AP Rick Radner event and I know exactly how to approach them. Plus with my contact in law enforcement, nothing could be manipulated in favor of the defendant.

    Of course, if you aren't being honest then you'll just continue on with your usual course of hoping it'll all just go away so you're not humiliated any further....no harm/no foul so to speak.

    Do you want true fame and riches....or more of the same old forum attention without a big payday.

    Do the wise thing.

  10. #10
    Just a crazy, crazy ass man doing his crazy ass trolling thing. I guess the real question is why anyone, myself included ever gives this person the time of day.

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    You can't help yourself kew. I control you, you know it, you just can't stay away from GF because of me, and even when baby bro blows you I'm right there with you.

    But you're missing the point: you have a chance here to make this all go away with a big check in your pocket. 100% of it. I can make that happen.

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    Thread has become thread of the year. Sorry mickey. I brought back Singer and Mdawg (IIRC) in some thread but I don't feel it can compare even if I am bragging. Thank you Kewl!

    What I don't get is doesn't mdawg know Kewl's name so what keeps him from telling rob to spite kewl? Why would kewl ever go that route? What am I missing?

    Kewl... I hope this counting thing keeps working out for you. I mean that.
    Deep down inside Redietz is probably an ok guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. 5/16/24 he left us. Remember.

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    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Thread has become thread of the year. Sorry mickey. I brought back Singer and Mdawg (IIRC) in some thread but I don't feel it can compare even if I am bragging. Thank you Kewl!

    What I don't get is doesn't mdawg know Kewl's name so what keeps him from telling rob to spite kewl? Why would kewl ever go that route? What am I missing?

    Kewl... I hope this counting thing keeps working out for you. I mean that.
    You want me to tell you what your missing. I shouldn't. I'll probably regret it in an hour, but what the fuck.

    Mdawg doesn't know my name. Do you remember me saying several times that there was one piece of information from his doxxing that was wrong and serves as a marker because that same wrong information showed up in the database. That one piece of information was my freaking name!!! I have an entry in OSN with my picture, address, forum handle and a name not even close to, nor resembling mine. I mean the picture is the damaging part, but it is just kind of funny.

    Mdawg came close, but he failed. If he really hired a PI like he said he did, he got ripped off. I think only one of these trolls/haters was able to come up with my name, and he took it to the grave with him because I convinced him he was wrong and had the wrong name.

    And you might be saying well, why would you reveal this now? Just keep in mind, I am always, always not one, but 3 steps ahead of these guys. If I couldn't stay 3 steps ahead of them, I would have stopped posting years ago.

    As for Singers return, AinQ, I already said you were welcome earlier this week.

    But Rob....Post me name!!! Come on you have a nephew in the FBI and CIA friends and Israeli Mossad intelligence friends. What is my freaking name??? You don't fucking know, so all this bullshit you have posted this week about lack of police reports is just that....more singer bullshit! You don't even have a name to begin to look up police reports.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 04-21-2023 at 07:19 PM.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Thread has become thread of the year. Sorry mickey. I brought back Singer and Mdawg (IIRC) in some thread but I don't feel it can compare even if I am bragging. Thank you Kewl!

    What I don't get is doesn't mdawg know Kewl's name so what keeps him from telling rob to spite kewl? Why would kewl ever go that route? What am I missing?

    Kewl... I hope this counting thing keeps working out for you. I mean that.
    You want me to tell you what your missing. I shouldn't. I'll probably regret it in an hour, but what the fuck.

    Mdawg doesn't know my name. Do you remember me saying several times that there was one piece of information from his doxxing that was wrong and serves as a marker because that same wrong information showed up in the database. That one piece of information was my freaking name!!! I have an entry in OSN with my picture, address, forum handle and a name not even close to, nor resembling mine. I mean the picture is the damaging part, but it is just kind of funny.

    Mdawg came close, but he failed. If he really hired a PI like he said he did, he got ripped off. I think only one of these trolls/haters was able to come up with my name, and he took it to the grave with him because I convinced him he was wrong and had the wrong name.

    And you might be saying well, why would you reveal this now? Just keep in mind, I am always, always not one, but 3 steps ahead of these guys. If I couldn't stay 3 steps ahead of them, I would have stopped posting years ago.

    As for Singers return, AinQ, I already said you were welcome earlier this week.

    But Rob....Post me name!!! Come on you have a nephew in the FBI and CIA friends and Israeli Mossad intelligence friends. What is my freaking name??? You don't fucking know, so all this bullshit you have posted this week about lack of police reports is just that....more singer bullshit! You don't even have a name to begin to look up police reports.
    Your OSN has your forum handle. That is impressive. I hope to never be in OSN but it'll mostly be because I'm just not a seirous enough person but some of us can still learn.
    Deep down inside Redietz is probably an ok guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. 5/16/24 he left us. Remember.

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    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    But Rob....Post me name!!! Come on you have a nephew in the FBI and CIA friends and Israeli Mossad intelligence friends. What is my freaking name??? .
    Everyone knows your name. It's Puddintane!

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    Oh great, Rob wants to be KJ's lawyer and pursue his claim against Sweat Point.

    But wait, Rob's not a lawyer, he can't do that.

    Shhh, don't say a word, just watch Rob spin his bullshit.

    It... never... ends.

    Masterful job of trolling.

    *golf clap*
    What, Me Worry?

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    I control you,
    You control nothing Rob, least of all your bowels and bladder. Last June, you left here with your tail between your legs after first MaxPen and then 2 weeks later Dan Druff completely humiliated you and proved your latest silly claim just another Singer BS piece of work. You announced that you were done posting anywhere, "retiring" i think you called it. But 24 hours later you showed up at GF, the only forum trollier (my own word, thank you very little), than this forum, where you buddied up with Maddog, who you had earlier called a fraud and California Phoney. You tried to buddy up to the late Moses as well, but he was busy fighting a bigger battle.

    Feeling sorry for you and with too much time on my hands last year, I popped into to play and troll with you. That is all you are to me, entertainment, like watching a retarded guy try to hit a baseball. When I got tired of you earlier this year, I announced that I would be ignoring you. And low and behold, you came crawling back here seeking my attention. You didn't like the reception you got here with Druff and others reminding of your complete humiliation, so you left again, seeking my attention from afar (GF). And now this incident has brought you back yet again with your trolling. So tell us all some more just who controls who? I have you flip-flopping and yo-yoing like a yo-yo master. There is the old poker saying about the guy looking around the table looking for the fish and not realizing it is himself. THAT is you Singer.

    Yesterday I gave you a chance to prove some credibility with all the Nephew/brother-in-law FBI crap and all your I know everything about you, by challenging you to just post me name. 2 words. I waived any complaint of doxxing. I gave my blessing. You couldn't do it because there is no nephew FBI guy. Nor do you know my name or anything about me. Hell, 2 years ago you swore you knew where I worked. I begged you to reveal that because I would love to know what kind of work I would be doing. I am still waiting for THAT, 2 years later.

    Just another Bullshit Singer episode.
    Add it to the Newell (and pictures inside an RV at the dealership).
    Add it to winning hundreds of thousands using progression wagering.
    Add it to the double up bug you stole from the news and Nestor and Kane.
    Add it to a phony bill of sales for the newell with all signatures in the same handwriting.
    Add it, to the recent debunked 1.5 million dollar VP hit that drove you from this forum last summer.
    Add it to movie "prop" money that you bought from amazon and took pictures of.
    Add it to machines telepathing hot and cold cycles.
    Add it to that the late Alan Mendelson even posted on his website that you told him privately, that your claims were BS.

    Earlier this week, AinQ said something like "yeah every knows Rob Singer is full of shit", most just don't care as he was admonishing me, because I still like to play with the troll. I still enjoy laughing at the retard trying to hit a baseball.....what can I say?

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    Remember kew, I have your addresses, birthdate and SS also. And baby bro's name. I know it bothers you so even if I could post these, who would EVER want to give up the gift that keeps on giving!

    Instead of spending so much time posting nonsense and worrying, I'd pay more attention to your credit report if I were you.

    And wise up.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Remember kew, I have your addresses, birthdate and SS also. And baby bro's name. I know it bothers you so even if I could post these, who would EVER want to give up the gift that keeps on giving!

    Instead of spending so much time posting nonsense and worrying, I'd pay more attention to your credit report if I were you.

    And wise up.
    Come on Rob, quit the bullshit. kew is daring you to post his name. Why can't you ? Seems to me you really don't have this " secret info" .Similar to kew countless times yacking about all your supposed info. Here's your golden opportunity.

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