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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Mickey you shared that you are on the welfare program know as social security, so I have a question for you. I am kidding mickey, everyone on all forums understand you earned and are entitled to your social security. Well everyone except one person I guess.

    So here is my serious question. The SS cola was over 9% last year and 5.9 the year before if I am not mistaken. That is 15% over 2 years. Of course that kind of cola means there is run-away inflation. I know from my late partner's social security that you never really catch up. The increases are always running behind as well as come 6 months behind the inflation numbers.

    So the last couple days I have seen 2 different economic numbers saying inflation is down. (I guess that is from the same month a year ago) And I see projections that next years SS cola will be 2, maybe 2.2%. The cola is officially determined by the July, August, Sept numbers, so it is just projection at this point. But really how the fuck can they be saying inflation is easing. I place the grocery order for 3 adults in our house, one large order and usually a second smaller order each month, as well as picking up a few things here and there, and I know food prices continue to rise.

    I don't get this idea and numbers saying inflation is easing. Please don't give me the spiel that Joe Biden is to blame. Whichever side is in power fudges the economic numbers released monthly, and often they go back the next month and totally adjust the numbers from the month before.

    Anybody that is a consumer, knows inflation is not down right now. I don't get it.
    I do all the grocery shopping for us so I'll give you the truth about inflation with groceries.

    First--and this is no surprise--you lied about this year's COLA increase for SS. It's UNDER 9%, not over. Who told you that--the black security guard?

    And the reason why the liberal media likes to say "inflation has been going down for months" is because back when Biden caused it to reach record high numbers, it had only one way to go: down. But it remains high, which is why your groceries cost more. It really doesn't mean squat to us because we can get whatever we want anyway, and my wife graduated from Culinary Arts school during the 90's as a filler while I was always away. IE, she cooks A LOT and loves to do it, and of course I love every bit of it.

    I'm actually a big fan of high gas prices due to Biden's ineptness on US energy. $20/gal would be fine with me. It keeps the punks from driving around at night as much, so we don't have to listen to their cheapo rice burners with loudass mufflers. So keep failing Joe!
    It (Biden's ultra high inflation) also took down some banks like First Republic Bank,Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank. This is because the Fed raised interest rates in order to try and control inflation and this, in turn, led all the low interest rate bonds these banks owned to become worthless. It wouldn't surprise me if other banks go down who are also holding large amounts of toxic paper. The thing is, the evil fuck Bill Clinton repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, allowing banks to once again use their customer bank deposits for investment purposes such as the purchase of U.S. treasuries.

    On a different note, having a condotel as a primary residence is quite convenient, but they seem to only be available in places with shit weather. For example Myrtle Beach has a lot of inexpensive ones, but there are no casinos there and the weather is ultra-muggy for 4 months of the year. Vegas and Florida have them, with plenty of casinos nearby in each market, but you have to deal with shit weather a lot of the year. I wish Reno would get some. The ones at GSR cannot be purchased as a primary residence - only for one month of the year. I thought about buying 12 of them and then just switching rooms at the end of each month, but that's fucking expensive and if I get kicked out of GSR for vulturing, would they still allow me to go upstairs to my room ? Anyway I was just half jesting with all my condotel comments, but they are really convenient.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I don't like the idea of what Hillary did but I am not seeing how it compares to Trump. Even GWB did something very similar to Hillary. https://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/...ls-497373.html

    You have no idea whether Russians and CHinese hacked her server but it was done on a shitty microsoft server by a putz IT guy who didn't have it encrypted properly at the start. If she should have went to jail, then I suspect there are lots of people in GWB's administration who should have also.
    DO YOU HAVE AMNESIA? COMEY FOUND 102 EMAILS ON HILLARY'S SERVER THAT HAD CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. A SERVER THAT, NO DOUBT, THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE HACKED.

    References, please?. Everything i'm reading said she didn't have any top secret documents but apparently the subject matter she discussed made the emails deemed sensitive and secret after the fact.

    From wiki -
    Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret".

    SO she did not deliberately take classified documents and send them via email. If you believe that then well this all goes back to her lock her up.



    The problem here is we don't know the breadth of documents Trump took with him.

    PER THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT TRUMP HAD THE RIGHT TO REMOVE DOCUMENTS AND THE VERY ACT OF REMOVAL DECLASSIFIES THEM. HE CAN KEEP THEM FOR 5 YEARS. DOJ IS, OF COURSE, IGNORING THE PRA.
    Just because you think your dear beloved ex-president is above any rules doesn't mean the rest of us believe he can totally snub this country's security.

    THERE WAS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO INDICT HILLARY. THE FBI HELPED HER BY NOT CHARGING HER. THE FBI INVENTS CHARGES ON REPUBLICANS AND COVERS UP DEMOCRAT CRIMES.
    Yes, to the same extent GWB should have been indicted. He did the same shit. Look it up. Pull your head out of your partisan ass. What Trump did is considerably different than either of those.

    GWB and Hillary did it as part of their job. Likely to prevent partisan hacks from weaponizing emails. I don't like it, but what either did is not the same as Trump.

    Trump and his 'lock her up lock her up'. What a piece of shit that guy.

    As far as media etc, again it goes both ways. Look into history of Fox News and Trump. Just liberals don't whine about it as much and perhaps it isn't the same as what Twitter did. Twitter however never claimed to be anything like a news organization.

    FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM.
    Fox is the biggest conservative News outlet, right? Actually their viewership is more than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED and it isn't even close. 2% ? Ditz, is that you? And now they don't count? lol. Do you crack up at yourself when you look in the mirror? "A ton of evidence". Maybe if you live on Mars with Ditz. Anyway, it is reported by the MSM, just do a google. If it does in fact have gravity behind it then it will be all over the place.


    LOL....THE DEMS ARE AFTER TAKING AWAY YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS BUT YOU BITCH ABOUT REPUBLICANS TRYING TO KEEP PORNOGRAPHY OUT OF GRADE SCHOOLS.

    THE FIRST THING THE FASCIST DEMS WANT TO REMOVE FROM YOU ARE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHTS. IT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST THING FASCISTS REMOVE.

    Pornography in grade schools ? lol. Okey dokey. I'm sure there are some books that would be best to not be in the library but it is all political stunts. Having a book about some trans kid doesn't make it porn.

    As far as Fascists - not only is this nonsensical but you do realize that Trump has suggested we suspend the Constitution because he LOST. This is a joke.
    Last edited by accountinquestion; 06-15-2023 at 04:32 AM.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Mickey you shared that you are on the welfare program know as social security, so I have a question for you. I am kidding mickey, everyone on all forums understand you earned and are entitled to your social security. Well everyone except one person I guess.

    So here is my serious question. The SS cola was over 9% last year and 5.9 the year before if I am not mistaken. That is 15% over 2 years. Of course that kind of cola means there is run-away inflation. I know from my late partner's social security that you never really catch up. The increases are always running behind as well as come 6 months behind the inflation numbers.

    So the last couple days I have seen 2 different economic numbers saying inflation is down. (I guess that is from the same month a year ago) And I see projections that next years SS cola will be 2, maybe 2.2%. The cola is officially determined by the July, August, Sept numbers, so it is just projection at this point. But really how the fuck can they be saying inflation is easing. I place the grocery order for 3 adults in our house, one large order and usually a second smaller order each month, as well as picking up a few things here and there, and I know food prices continue to rise.

    I don't get this idea and numbers saying inflation is easing. Please don't give me the spiel that Joe Biden is to blame. Whichever side is in power fudges the economic numbers released monthly, and often they go back the next month and totally adjust the numbers from the month before.

    Anybody that is a consumer, knows inflation is not down right now. I don't get it.
    I think it was reported that May it was only 4.4% but that's just for one month. So they are calling that a drop in inflation. One month isn't indicative of anything.

    The 15% over two years is an overall statistic. Grocery prices have ran much higher, are actually up 25% since Biden took office. When you look at housing, transportation, insurance, groceries, I honestly don't see how the working class pays for everything. Victor Davis Hanson pointed something out the other day. He said the middle class isn't living much better than the welfare class. I feel sorry for working stiffs living in today's economy.

    It looks like you order groceries from home. I did a comparison between Albertson's, Smith's and Walmart. Did the shopping list online. I started with Albertson's and listed all name brand stuff. What cost $100 at Albertson's cost $110 at Smith's....but only $76 at Walmart. And the Walmart delivery was cheapest. So one way to save is use Walmart online.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Since you guys turned this into a political thread I am going to post this here. Those other sub-forums are ghost-towns.

    https://www.axios.com/pro/tech-polic...section-230-ai

    So this is unenforceable for "big media" or whatever it is called. These sites will have to crack down on any content that might have been created by generative AI and opens them up to lawsuits.

    On some level it sort of makes sense. People could use generative AI to make up all sorts of slanderous stuff then claim it was generated by users. Or claim it was created by generative AI, who is to know otherwise?

    What is this going to do in reality ? It is going to open these big media companies to numerous lawsuits. The cheapest way forward will be to create some sort of enforcement regime.

    I can't really imagine this being a good thing for "free speech". People were whining about censorship previously. What a joke. I'd consider this amendment to be more big brother than less.

    I think there are like some sort of happy mediums but this ain't it.
    LOL....YOU created this thread and your first post was nothing but political.
    Of course but no comments? Could it be that some Republicans are pushing for a world where there is effectively far less "Free Speech"?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    You are absolutely right. It's not the same at all. Per the Presidential Records Act Trump had the unfettered right to declassify and remove any and all documents from the White House.
    AP News- FACT FOCUS: Trump twists Presidential Records Act, Clinton ‘sock drawer’ case to mount defense

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...se/ar-AA1cyuEs

    I am thinking here that you came across a bit of fake news because this seems to suggest otherwise.

    Of course Trump claims all sorts of things. When he fairly lost hte election he wanted to suspend the Constitution. It is clear as day he thinks he is above the law in every aspect.

    As Singer would say.

    Wise up.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  6. #26
    Superlawyer Robert Barnes lays it out in perfect detail:

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Superlawyer Robert Barnes lays it out in perfect detail:
    Does he literally call himself a "superlawyer"? Too bad I won't waste 50 minutes on a youtube clip anymore. Wanting info, not wanting to spend a lot of time.

    Trump is not a President, so he would have needed to declassify this in some formal way while during President if this was to hold water. Is there any indication he did that?
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Does he literally call himself a "superlawyer"?
    No.

    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Trump is not a President, so he would have needed to declassify this in some formal way while during President if this was to hold water. Is there any indication he did that?
    The legal precedent has already been established with Bill Clinton (see 12:47 of this video). Bill didn't declassify classified documents in any formal way. Rules only apply when the Deep State says they apply.

  9. #29
    Look, this case is different than all these other cases being compared to. for one this was apparently extremely top secret military, nuclear information. What the fuck was he doing or planning on doing with that? This is a guy who claims that America's top "enemies" Putin and Kim Jong Un are his friends. I don't care for Donald Trump in any way, but I want to believe he wasn't evil enough, nor stupid enough to have been considering selling secrets to the highest bidder? But with this guy, where everything is about money, can we really rule that out?

    I was recently made aware of a case against Spiro Agnew, who I guess was Nixon's VP (how fitting). The government had Agnew dead to right on tax evasion. Anyone else would have gone to jail no questions. But because Agnew was VP, a deal was made where he resigned, pleaded guilty, I don't know what other stipulations, but did not serve jail time.

    I suspect the same type of deal will be offered Trump, or maybe already has been. He is not sitting president like Agnew was sitting VP, but the terms would be he agrees not to run for president ever again, plead guilty, maybe or maybe not serve 6 months house arrest at his country club. We probably wouldn't even officially be told part of the agreement was he not run for president, which would allow Trump to save face and say he has decided not to run, because things are so fucked up and everyone is out to get him. Something like that.

    With Lawyers jumping ship left and right, it wouldn't surprise me if such an agreement has already been proposed and Mr. Crazy has rejected it, and the lawyers are at wits end, not knowing how to save this guy from himself, nor wanting to be a part of it.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Look, this case is different than all these other cases being compared to. for one this was apparently extremely top secret military, nuclear information.
    Then the presidential declassification law should be amended to make it illegal for the president to declassify "extremely top secret information". But right now it doesn't. How lawmakers would go about quantifying this subjective term (so that they can add an amendment against it) is anyone's guess.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I don't like the idea of what Hillary did but I am not seeing how it compares to Trump. Even GWB did something very similar to Hillary. https://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/...ls-497373.html

    You have no idea whether Russians and CHinese hacked her server but it was done on a shitty microsoft server by a putz IT guy who didn't have it encrypted properly at the start. If she should have went to jail, then I suspect there are lots of people in GWB's administration who should have also.


    References, please?. Everything i'm reading said she didn't have any top secret documents but apparently the subject matter she discussed made the emails deemed sensitive and secret after the fact.

    From wiki -
    Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret".

    SO she did not deliberately take classified documents and send them via email. If you believe that then well this all goes back to her lock her up.



    The problem here is we don't know the breadth of documents Trump took with him.

    PER THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT TRUMP HAD THE RIGHT TO REMOVE DOCUMENTS AND THE VERY ACT OF REMOVAL DECLASSIFIES THEM. HE CAN KEEP THEM FOR 5 YEARS. DOJ IS, OF COURSE, IGNORING THE PRA.
    Just because you think your dear beloved ex-president is above any rules doesn't mean the rest of us believe he can totally snub this country's security.

    THERE WAS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO INDICT HILLARY. THE FBI HELPED HER BY NOT CHARGING HER. THE FBI INVENTS CHARGES ON REPUBLICANS AND COVERS UP DEMOCRAT CRIMES.
    Yes, to the same extent GWB should have been indicted. He did the same shit. Look it up. Pull your head out of your partisan ass. What Trump did is considerably different than either of those.

    GWB and Hillary did it as part of their job. Likely to prevent partisan hacks from weaponizing emails. I don't like it, but what either did is not the same as Trump.

    Trump and his 'lock her up lock her up'. What a piece of shit that guy.

    As far as media etc, again it goes both ways. Look into history of Fox News and Trump. Just liberals don't whine about it as much and perhaps it isn't the same as what Twitter did. Twitter however never claimed to be anything like a news organization.

    FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM.
    Fox is the biggest conservative News outlet, right? Actually their viewership is more than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED and it isn't even close. 2% ? Ditz, is that you? And now they don't count? lol. Do you crack up at yourself when you look in the mirror? "A ton of evidence". Maybe if you live on Mars with Ditz. Anyway, it is reported by the MSM, just do a google. If it does in fact have gravity behind it then it will be all over the place.


    LOL....THE DEMS ARE AFTER TAKING AWAY YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS BUT YOU BITCH ABOUT REPUBLICANS TRYING TO KEEP PORNOGRAPHY OUT OF GRADE SCHOOLS.

    THE FIRST THING THE FASCIST DEMS WANT TO REMOVE FROM YOU ARE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHTS. IT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST THING FASCISTS REMOVE.

    Pornography in grade schools ? lol. Okey dokey. I'm sure there are some books that would be best to not be in the library but it is all political stunts. Having a book about some trans kid doesn't make it porn.

    As far as Fascists - not only is this nonsensical but you do realize that Trump has suggested we suspend the Constitution because he LOST. This is a joke.
    What you've written here is a joke. I will no longer try to hold a conversation with a lunatic like you. Dude, you and your ilk are unrepentent fascists.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Since you guys turned this into a political thread I am going to post this here. Those other sub-forums are ghost-towns.

    https://www.axios.com/pro/tech-polic...section-230-ai

    So this is unenforceable for "big media" or whatever it is called. These sites will have to crack down on any content that might have been created by generative AI and opens them up to lawsuits.

    On some level it sort of makes sense. People could use generative AI to make up all sorts of slanderous stuff then claim it was generated by users. Or claim it was created by generative AI, who is to know otherwise?

    What is this going to do in reality ? It is going to open these big media companies to numerous lawsuits. The cheapest way forward will be to create some sort of enforcement regime.

    I can't really imagine this being a good thing for "free speech". People were whining about censorship previously. What a joke. I'd consider this amendment to be more big brother than less.

    I think there are like some sort of happy mediums but this ain't it.
    LOL....YOU created this thread and your first post was nothing but political.
    Of course but no comments? Could it be that some Republicans are pushing for a world where there is effectively far less "Free Speech"?
    It's your fascist democrats that are stifling free speech.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I don't like the idea of what Hillary did but I am not seeing how it compares to Trump. Even GWB did something very similar to Hillary. https://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/...ls-497373.html

    You have no idea whether Russians and CHinese hacked her server but it was done on a shitty microsoft server by a putz IT guy who didn't have it encrypted properly at the start. If she should have went to jail, then I suspect there are lots of people in GWB's administration who should have also.


    References, please?. Everything i'm reading said she didn't have any top secret documents but apparently the subject matter she discussed made the emails deemed sensitive and secret after the fact.

    From wiki -
    Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret".

    SO she did not deliberately take classified documents and send them via email. If you believe that then well this all goes back to her lock her up.



    The problem here is we don't know the breadth of documents Trump took with him.

    PER THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT TRUMP HAD THE RIGHT TO REMOVE DOCUMENTS AND THE VERY ACT OF REMOVAL DECLASSIFIES THEM. HE CAN KEEP THEM FOR 5 YEARS. DOJ IS, OF COURSE, IGNORING THE PRA.
    Just because you think your dear beloved ex-president is above any rules doesn't mean the rest of us believe he can totally snub this country's security.

    THERE WAS OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO INDICT HILLARY. THE FBI HELPED HER BY NOT CHARGING HER. THE FBI INVENTS CHARGES ON REPUBLICANS AND COVERS UP DEMOCRAT CRIMES.
    Yes, to the same extent GWB should have been indicted. He did the same shit. Look it up. Pull your head out of your partisan ass. What Trump did is considerably different than either of those.

    GWB and Hillary did it as part of their job. Likely to prevent partisan hacks from weaponizing emails. I don't like it, but what either did is not the same as Trump.

    Trump and his 'lock her up lock her up'. What a piece of shit that guy.

    As far as media etc, again it goes both ways. Look into history of Fox News and Trump. Just liberals don't whine about it as much and perhaps it isn't the same as what Twitter did. Twitter however never claimed to be anything like a news organization.

    FOX NEWS IS ABOUT 2% OF THE MEDIA. THE MSM IS 98% IN THE TANK FOR DEMS. THE LATEST BOMBSHELL STORY IS BIDEN BEING BRIBED BY BURISMA. A TON OF EVIDENCE THERE. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN BEING REPORTED IN THE MSM.
    Fox is the biggest conservative News outlet, right? Actually their viewership is more than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED and it isn't even close. 2% ? Ditz, is that you? And now they don't count? lol. Do you crack up at yourself when you look in the mirror? "A ton of evidence". Maybe if you live on Mars with Ditz. Anyway, it is reported by the MSM, just do a google. If it does in fact have gravity behind it then it will be all over the place.


    LOL....THE DEMS ARE AFTER TAKING AWAY YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHTS BUT YOU BITCH ABOUT REPUBLICANS TRYING TO KEEP PORNOGRAPHY OUT OF GRADE SCHOOLS.

    THE FIRST THING THE FASCIST DEMS WANT TO REMOVE FROM YOU ARE YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHTS. IT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST THING FASCISTS REMOVE.

    Pornography in grade schools ? lol. Okey dokey. I'm sure there are some books that would be best to not be in the library but it is all political stunts. Having a book about some trans kid doesn't make it porn.

    As far as Fascists - not only is this nonsensical but you do realize that Trump has suggested we suspend the Constitution because he LOST. This is a joke.
    You obviously haven't seen the latest primetime viewership stats:

    CNN 600,000
    FNC 1.5 million
    MSNBC 1.7 million.

    That's right. MSNBC is beating FNC ever since the idiots fired Tucker Carlson.

    Watch Comey state that classified information was on Hillary's server.



    Trump was president for 4 years and didn't do anything to Hillary. But dems are to much sleazeball to give Trump the same respect.

    Please show the quote where Trump said "suspend the constitution." No hearsay allowed. Only video of Trump saying that or any official document of Trump saying that is allowed. No lying bastards used as source, please.

    And puhleeeeeeeese, quit using fake fucking news sources for any of your cited information.

    Then kill yourself.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 06-15-2023 at 11:48 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Look, this case is different than all these other cases being compared to. for one this was apparently extremely top secret military, nuclear information.
    Then the presidential declassification law should be amended to make it illegal for the president to declassify "extremely top secret information". But right now it doesn't. How lawmakers would go about quantifying this subjective term (so that they can add an amendment against it) is anyone's guess.
    Yes, I agree. I guess congress does need to actually spell that out in law. I guess it was just assumed no president would take top secret information. Now that one has and repeatedly claims it was his to take, when it obviously is not, I guess they should make it official.

    Look, George W's home is filled with his water-color painting of landscapes and whatever else he is painting these days. Bill Clinton's home probably filled with porn. No one has boxes of presidential documents stacked in their bathroom, do they? Those documents do NOT belong to the President, despite what Mr crazy thinks. They go to the national archives and if and when a president opens a presidential library he can request things he wants in there and if the national archies thinks it appropriate, they release those documents.

    Trump just seems to think Top-secret national security documents are his to take, like towels, pens and other souvenirs. And the big problem with this guy is that nobody can tell him anything. He knows it all. The man surrounded himself with yes men that tell him what he wants to hear his whole life. Anybody that doesn't tell him what he wants to hear gets fired. Well now, somebody is telling him the truths he doesn't want to hear, and he can't fire them. And if he doesn't stop acting like a complete jackass and defying them, he is going to end up in jail, which is probably where he belongs.

  15. #35
    These fucking lefty fascist bastards take their fake news sources seriously. Didn't even know that FNC no longer leads cable news. That's how out of touch these morons are. Dimwitted fuckers believe all that propaganda bullshit spewed by the lamestream media. LOL. Fucking lackey's.

    Tucker's first 2 episodes on Twitter has gotten 170 million views so far. He's leaving cable news in the dust.

    Tucker on Twitter Episode 3

    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Look, this case is different than all these other cases being compared to. for one this was apparently extremely top secret military, nuclear information.
    Then the presidential declassification law should be amended to make it illegal for the president to declassify "extremely top secret information". But right now it doesn't. How lawmakers would go about quantifying this subjective term (so that they can add an amendment against it) is anyone's guess.
    Yes, I agree. I guess congress does need to actually spell that out in law. I guess it was just assumed no president would take top secret information. Now that one has and repeatedly claims it was his to take, when it obviously is not, I guess they should make it official.

    Look, George W's home is filled with his water-color painting of landscapes and whatever else he is painting these days. Bill Clinton's home probably filled with porn. No one has boxes of presidential documents stacked in their bathroom, do they? Those documents do NOT belong to the President, despite what Mr crazy thinks. They go to the national archives and if and when a president opens a presidential library he can request things he wants in there and if the national archies thinks it appropriate, they release those documents.

    Trump just seems to think Top-secret national security documents are his to take, like towels, pens and other souvenirs. And the big problem with this guy is that nobody can tell him anything. He knows it all. The man surrounded himself with yes men that tell him what he wants to hear his whole life. Anybody that doesn't tell him what he wants to hear gets fired. Well now, somebody is telling him the truths he doesn't want to hear, and he can't fire them. And if he doesn't stop acting like a complete jackass and defying them, he is going to end up in jail, which is probably where he belongs.
    What you are saying is that Trump didn't break the law but we should act like he broke the law.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #37
    None of thes cable "news" outlets are really about news anymore mickey. NONE of them, Fox, MSNBC....none of them. They are entertainment shows, saying what their individual viewers want to hear. And People like Tucker, Hannity, Igram, as well as Rachel Maddow, Lawrence Odonnell and are all just entertainers. I think Rush was the first and it exploded after that. And some of them, Rush included have even been caught saying that they know what they "report" isn't real.

    I like you mickeycrimm, but you have drank too much of the Trump Kool-aid. I still consider myself a moderate republican, although my registration now says democrat. I first moved away from the repubs to independent, but now have register democrat. As long as Trump retains control of the Republican party, I want a voice in selecting who is going to be running against him, because that is who I am going to have to vote for. And there are million like me that left the republican party, maybe not to the point of registering democrat, but what they really feel, like me, is that the republican party left them.

    Trump is not, nor never was a republican, nor had republican values. He has Donald J Trump values or interest at heart, nothing else. Until the republicans grow a backbone and kick this fraudster to the curb, our entire country is screwed. So many of us are left with the only choice to vote for Joe Biden a man in his 80's, corrupt life long politian, just like all these geriatric 80 years olds that run the country.

    By the way Donald J Trump?? Turned 77 yesterday, so he isn't far behind way too old Mr. Biden. Belated happy birthday to Donald. I suspect he wasn't all that happy, but maybe he broke the course record playing golf, shooting several hole-in-ones.

  18. #38
    I always think to myself, what the fuck is wrong with all these politicians that they stay in office into their 80's running for re-election. I guess they want to die in office like McCain and Kennedy. Where is that, retirement sentiment, where you enjoy your final years instead of working. Biden, Trump, Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, Clyburn, Chuck Grassley senator from Iowa who at 89 years old just was re-elcted to a 6 year term, and of course the demented old gal from California.

    But the truth is these corrupt bastards on both sides, make tens, even hundreds of millions of dollars in payoffs, for different votes. Why would they ever want to give that kind of money up.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Look, this case is different than all these other cases being compared to. for one this was apparently extremely top secret military, nuclear information.
    Then the presidential declassification law should be amended to make it illegal for the president to declassify "extremely top secret information". But right now it doesn't. How lawmakers would go about quantifying this subjective term (so that they can add an amendment against it) is anyone's guess.
    Yes, I agree. I guess congress does need to actually spell that out in law. I guess it was just assumed no president would take top secret information. Now that one has and repeatedly claims it was his to take, when it obviously is not, I guess they should make it official.

    Look, George W's home is filled with his water-color painting of landscapes and whatever else he is painting these days. Bill Clinton's home probably filled with porn. No one has boxes of presidential documents stacked in their bathroom, do they? Those documents do NOT belong to the President, despite what Mr crazy thinks. They go to the national archives and if and when a president opens a presidential library he can request things he wants in there and if the national archies thinks it appropriate, they release those documents.

    Trump just seems to think Top-secret national security documents are his to take, like towels, pens and other souvenirs. And the big problem with this guy is that nobody can tell him anything. He knows it all. The man surrounded himself with yes men that tell him what he wants to hear his whole life. Anybody that doesn't tell him what he wants to hear gets fired. Well now, somebody is telling him the truths he doesn't want to hear, and he can't fire them. And if he doesn't stop acting like a complete jackass and defying them, he is going to end up in jail, which is probably where he belongs.
    The Presidential Records Act says a president can remove any and all documents and keep them for 5 years. Repeat, 5 years.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    None of thes cable "news" outlets are really about news anymore mickey. NONE of them, Fox, MSNBC....none of them. They are entertainment shows, saying what their individual viewers want to hear. And People like Tucker, Hannity, Igram, as well as Rachel Maddow, Lawrence Odonnell and are all just entertainers. I think Rush was the first and it exploded after that. And some of them, Rush included have even been caught saying that they know what they "report" isn't real.

    I like you mickeycrimm, but you have drank too much of the Trump Kool-aid. I still consider myself a moderate republican, although my registration now says democrat. I first moved away from the repubs to independent, but now have register democrat. As long as Trump retains control of the Republican party, I want a voice in selecting who is going to be running against him, because that is who I am going to have to vote for. And there are million like me that left the republican party, maybe not to the point of registering democrat, but what they really feel, like me, is that the republican party left them.

    Trump is not, nor never was a republican, nor had republican values. He has Donald J Trump values or interest at heart, nothing else. Until the republicans grow a backbone and kick this fraudster to the curb, our entire country is screwed. So many of us are left with the only choice to vote for Joe Biden a man in his 80's, corrupt life long politian, just like all these geriatric 80 years olds that run the country.

    By the way Donald J Trump?? Turned 77 yesterday, so he isn't far behind way too old Mr. Biden. Belated happy birthday to Donald. I suspect he wasn't all that happy, but maybe he broke the course record playing golf, shooting several hole-in-ones.
    So you finally figured out that cable news is about entertainment? I figured that out 20 years ago. Go back to sleep.

    And thanks for admitting you are a lefty fascist. Trump is the only republican in the republican party. Get a clue, dumbo.

    PS: You didn't have a problem voting for decrepit 79 year old Biden in 2020. Don't bitch about Trump.

    You fascists deserve to live under the oppressive government you vote for.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 06-15-2023 at 01:17 PM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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