Fiction as fiction can be

[kewlJ]

If you are truly proficient at it, a number of profitable situations naturally arise. But, not the straight-forward ones. Say, by watching out for the two or three bigger bettors usually on hand in a big casino with a high-limit section. Often, those guys play in the regular sections for more company. Guys that have already lost tens, or hundreds, of thousands. Guys who already tend to make a lot of big bets on the spur of the moment. Anyway, make the occasional big bet, $500 or $1000, to "set yourselves apart", as having a good time, which you are. Let them make the first bit of small talk, and, before you know it, you're best friends, in the sense that the tiniest bit of facial or other gesture lets the other guy know when to pound it. I mean, a guy who already does that, and, with me betting mostly normally. What tends to happen, after things get rolling, especially with a good table, and group, is that the guy will offer me the odd double-down, and split, at $500 or $1000, or, a couple of purples on the end - the most that I would accept, anyway. Not much for a casino to go on, but, to graciously cut the guy a cheque (check) for the $60,000. No it's not where you let the other guy buy you dinner, or, introduce you to his friends, and family. You never see the guy again. But, you really have to know your cards.

There can be an advantage to playing with players that are betting bigger than you, or that there regular bet is about the same as your max or bigger bet. This is known as playing in the shadow of a bigger player. Even if surveillance is focused on that player, they tend to overlook others at that same table. This is basically how I have been playing for a while now, since my regular games got blown up. Busier weekend nights playing in the shadows.

But there is a real danger to this. If that other player is a fellow AP, card counter or something else, and surveillance is watching him, even the tiniest thing can look like you are collaborating or part of a team play situation, when you are in fact all but strangers.

Also in my experience, scavenging double downs and splits at higher limit tables is something casinos look for. You can get away with this at lower limits but at higher limits, it stands out some. It isn't illegal, and no one will say anything, but there is a good change if you are doing this at higher limits, it will be noted. If you are playing rated, even noted on your account.

[Gottlob1]

I never tried to make a living by it. My two or three years at it were long over, I guess, before the time of CSM's. Never saw one. I did it to zone-out, have some fun, but, gave it up, after I had my fill. But, that's life when you're younger, in that you often move on without thinking, "Gee, that's the last time I did such, and such."

As far as cheating goes, there's no doubt that casinos cheat, even in an outright manner. The thing is that they do a number of things to discourage any player who seems to win outright, or on an ongoing basis. You can get lucky at slots, only to find people in suits with clipboards standing and watching you from thirty feet. The casinos escalate their countermeasures proportional to what it saves them. Costs money to legally trespass a player. People say this and that never happens, can't happen, ask that a casino would need to cheat, but, hey, seen it all with my own eyes, and, then, some.

[Treeshade]

Thank God I'm a sports handicapper, where your record as verified by outside parties is your reputation. And you actually have clients for decades who can verify what you've been doing. I mean, holy fuck.

I hate to quote blackhole, but you need hip high waders to trudge through all the bullshit here.

My mind is like Mdawg's. Only I spread from 1 to 10,000 when I play blackjack. Why not? LOL. And I usually play in the parking lot of South Point, because (1) I can't park my Newell in Caesars' or Cosmo without knocking the top off and (2) if I'm going to be backroomed (or backdoored), I'd rather it be in my place of residence.

You have guys in Hickory, NC claiming to be in Tahoe, then three weeks later saying they can prove they are NOW in Tahoe. LOL. You have guys who win 50 out of 52 sessions, getting comped all the livelong day, and they aren't mentioning that (1) their significant other blows 20k a day on slots or (2) they're really in town for the male escorts and blackjack is their cover.

You have guys who think APs somehow know how to leverage bonuses better than people with 30 sports accounts for 50 years. You have guys who claim that they can swing over to "other AP opportunities" to the tune of 100k a year since their blackjack days are numbered. You have guys who know their slots and travel the country but don't actually file as professional gamblers because...why? Because they are traveling male escorts? Kind of like travel nurses, only better paid. You have guys who have spent their adult lives as APs and a large part of it in LV, but don't know prostitution is illegal in LV. You have guys who claim to have played blackjack in LV for a decade, but know nothing about male escorts in LV.

Goddamn. Start up a new forum. At least try to be believable.

And, oh yeah, let's give another guy his due. You have a guy waxing eloquent about why don't handicappers data mine actual results? And the biggest selling football annual in the country has been publishing that stuff for more than 30 years. This guy never read it but considers himself savvy enough to weigh in with his expertise because he once wrote a program. LOL.

You know, honestly, this place wasn't great under Alan. But it is a Grade A bullshitting clusterfuck these days.

Hey cock sucker I was in hickory north Caroline. You want to know why dumb fuck ? Because I was purchasing land. Maybe look up why you fake sports betting loon. The only thing we know about you is that you had a friendship with Sandusky. I wonder why ? That and you like to get “investments” from random plops so you can bet. Nothing else you say is verified.

[Treeshade]

Thank God I'm a sports handicapper, where your record as verified by outside parties is your reputation. And you actually have clients for decades who can verify what you've been doing. I mean, holy fuck.

I hate to quote blackhole, but you need hip high waders to trudge through all the bullshit here.

My mind is like Mdawg's. Only I spread from 1 to 10,000 when I play blackjack. Why not? LOL. And I usually play in the parking lot of South Point, because (1) I can't park my Newell in Caesars' or Cosmo without knocking the top off and (2) if I'm going to be backroomed (or backdoored), I'd rather it be in my place of residence.

You have guys in Hickory, NC claiming to be in Tahoe, then three weeks later saying they can prove they are NOW in Tahoe. LOL. You have guys who win 50 out of 52 sessions, getting comped all the livelong day, and they aren't mentioning that (1) their significant other blows 20k a day on slots or (2) they're really in town for the male escorts and blackjack is their cover.

You have guys who think APs somehow know how to leverage bonuses better than people with 30 sports accounts for 50 years. You have guys who claim that they can swing over to "other AP opportunities" to the tune of 100k a year since their blackjack days are numbered. You have guys who know their slots and travel the country but don't actually file as professional gamblers because...why? Because they are traveling male escorts? Kind of like travel nurses, only better paid. You have guys who have spent their adult lives as APs and a large part of it in LV, but don't know prostitution is illegal in LV. You have guys who claim to have played blackjack in LV for a decade, but know nothing about male escorts in LV.

Goddamn. Start up a new forum. At least try to be believable.

And, oh yeah, let's give another guy his due. You have a guy waxing eloquent about why don't handicappers data mine actual results? And the biggest selling football annual in the country has been publishing that stuff for more than 30 years. This guy never read it but considers himself savvy enough to weigh in with his expertise because he once wrote a program. LOL.

You know, honestly, this place wasn't great under Alan. But it is a Grade A bullshitting clusterfuck these days.

Hey cock sucker I was in hickory north Caroline. You want to know why dumb fuck ? Because I was purchasing land. Maybe look up why you fake sports betting loon. The only thing we know about you is that you had a friendship with Sandusky. I wonder why ? That and you like to get “investments” from random plops so you can bet. Nothing else you say is verified.

And another thing 100k a year is literally nothing for an AP to make in this current environment. There’s guys walking around with 30 to 50k on them who hustle penny games. That’s how out of touch you are with all the opportunities. These professional forum posters wouldn’t know anything about it. And what idiot would file as professional gambler lol. Surely a man with your IQ could figure out a better way.

[MDawg]

You can't listen to anything UNKewlJ says about really, anything...including blackjack. He's just drawing from what he heard or read, not much actual play.

Right, SeedValue?

Proof include this backrooming lawsuit he concocted that made no sense and turned out to be a complete fabrication, or his MGM Execs visiting on Halloween story. If he knew the way things really are he would have fabricated more believable stories. But...as a source of amusement from a guy desperate to seem like he knows something, why not.

You can almost go ahead and do the OPPOSITE of what UNKewlJ suggests, and do better than following any of his suggestions.

Now, if you want to know about low end video poker or red to green blackjack, he might have some ideas.


I mean look, he doesn't even have any resolve. Didn't he just say,

What I have decided to do is no longer share a single thing about my play or career, as I have always done.

and yet,

There can be an advantage to playing with players that are betting bigger than you, or that there regular bet is about the same as your max or bigger bet. This is known as playing in the shadow of a bigger player. Even if surveillance is focused on that player, they tend to overlook others at that same table. This is basically how I have been playing for a while now, since my regular games got blown up. Busier weekend nights playing in the shadows.

But there is a real danger to this. If that other player is a fellow AP, card counter or something else, and surveillance is watching him, even the tiniest thing can look like you are collaborating or part of a team play situation, when you are in fact all but strangers.

Also in my experience, scavenging double downs and splits at higher limit tables is something casinos look for. You can get away with this at lower limits but at higher limits, it stands out some. It isn't illegal, and no one will say anything, but there is a good change if you are doing this at higher limits, it will be noted. If you are playing rated, even noted on your account.

But come on, contradictions galore, including that he claims to never play rated so how would he even know?

Anyway, he's just spouting theory, he plays very little and wouldn't even know.

seedvalue on the UNKewl one: No one should take your advice regarding blackjack, because you haven’t proven to be an expert. Literally they should do the opposite of what you say. I’m not your sweetheart either

[MDawg]

AlanMendelson (R.I.P.) on UNKewlJ’s lying ways: Kewlj you do have a good imagination and a script that you stick to.

[kewlJ]

MDawg, this thread and the post that started this thread, which you so proudly posted on numerous forums is your chance to discuss, explain and convince people. And yet all you do is continue with your little attacks. Are you unable to explain? Embarrassed of what you wrote? Stand by your post and let's have a respectful discussion.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew, you have been obliterated by everybody everywhere for your lying. Why do you still think you can alter others' opinions of you with your desperate deflections?

[kewlJ]

Kew, you have been obliterated by everybody everywhere for your lying. Why do you still think you can alter others' opinions of you with your desperate deflections?

Despite what you think Ron, I really don't care what people think about me. That is why you have never seen me post pictures of RV's at the RV dealership, or fake cash or fake jackpots. Those are the acts of a very insecure person who deeply cares what people think and is out to impress with fake shit, which almost always backfires.

Today alone, I have written enough about blackjack and the way casinos work (some of that knowledge not just from my own experiences but by having friends that work in the industry) that anybody that has any questions about my knowledge should be satisfied. And no, almost none of my knowledge is stuff you read in a book. It is from real experience, both my own and other players I network and have shared things with, just like Axelwolf said. You don't learn the stuff I know from a book or even reading websites.

If somebody decides that is not enough for them, then they probably started with some kind of bias, probably about something not even related to gambling. It's like the old saying, "you can lead a horse('s ass) to water but you can't make him drink". Well I will show him where the water is and what he chooses to do or believe after that is completely up to him. I come home to the same exact situation either way.

[kewlJ]

Rob, are you really NOT in Tahoe for the summer, but instead in North Carolina? I don't care either way. I know nothing about North Carolina, except Villanova crushed them with a 3 pointer at the buzzer to win the 2016 National Championship. I hear South Carolina is a nice place to live, although I would think both Carolinas could be hot and humid during the summer.

I was sort of hoping you were summering in Tahoe. That would be nice for you. But whatever. In another 6 weeks you will be back in Arizona mooching off the kids. Some retirement plan you have.

[Rob.Singer]

Kew, if you weren't so devastated you wouldn't be posting so many rambles. You already know everyone knows most of your posts are littered with lies. And it bothers you no end.

What I'm looking forward to is more of your lies about your corporate friends at MGM who hand you player records to your door on Halloween. Do they do this every Halloween? And tell us....what do the bring you on the Day of the Dead?

You're so rattled you have to claim I'm in N. Carolina? Where's mdawg--in Alaska? But I understand your fantasies. You've never been anywhere and never will go anywhere but to that dumpy high rise apt. rental you and your clan live in.

Now tell us about counting 3? tables again. I'm sure you'll be believable....

[kewlJ]

You're so rattled you have to claim I'm in N. Carolina? Where's mdawg--in Alaska?

Now tell us about counting 3? tables again. I'm sure you'll be believable....

I didn't say you were in North Carolina. Somebody else said that and they repeated it multiple times. I have no idea what makes them think that, but they seem rather sure.

Nothing further to say about tracking a second or on very rare occasion 3rd table (for a very short time of a round or two). It was a technique that when conditions were right and you could do, it you could almost double you expected value, because you would be practically doubling the max bet, higher advantage hands that you saw and played in that same time frame.

But those days are all but gone now. Where it used to be something that I could do several times a month, maybe as often as once a week, if I was playing as much as I used to, I would guess you would be able to find those conditions a couple times a year now, just because of the fewer traditional blackjack tables and more crowded condition.

Conditions were starting to change for the worse in this regard before Covid hit, but post covid it has accelerated, with fewer and fewer traditional tables, and more table games with higher edges and even blackjack tables with higher side bets. Plus at many locations lower level blackjack games have been replaced by electronic versions, stadium type, games, where 1 dealer can deal to 30 or 40 players (at Stations Casinos, as much as 100 players at some locations back east).

So you can keep bringing up the tracking a second table, but it is like talking about single deck blackjack dealt down to the last card. Those days are gone.

[Rob.Singer]

And how precious it is that I can get you to ramble on with your useless essays after totally obliterating you once again.

Does it ever get any better than this? Even with a social dropout and loser like kew??

[MisterV]

Robert, I know that you and MDawg enjoy insultlng, defiling and inflicting pain on KJ but please ask yourself one question: "Why?"

I will often flame someone, insult them, but never to the degree and with the severity that you employ.

I'm just curious whether you can articulate a reason for your actions?

[kewlJ]

Robert, I know that you and MDawg enjoy insultlng, defiling and inflicting pain on KJ but please ask yourself one question: "Why?"

I will often flame someone, insult them, but never to the degree and with the severity that you employ.

I'm just curious whether you can articulate a reason for your actions?

While we await Rob's answer, let me tell you what I think MrV.

Both are bullies and it is very easy now a days to be a bully on the internet.

Mdawg is very, very angry that I called out his fiction story and many of the details of his fiction story. Others did as well, but I kept at it longer than most, because he kept repeating it. So he blames me that despite his daily reports of winning on multiple forums, there just is little interest or response. If he posts a picture of a good cut of meat or a shirt he bought, or whatever nonsense he posted about charcoal toothpaste, he may generate an occasional response. But there just is very little interest on 3 forums no less in his continuing daily reports....and in his mind, that is my fault.

Singer needs an adversary. He always has. If you go back and read from a decade ago, Singer always needed an adversary and he always tried to brutally attack anyone who dared challenge his silly claims. Not just the person making the challenge, but he will attack and make up nasty lies about wives, children family members. This is actually an old mob tactic. It is suppose to serve as warning, a deterrent to others not to do the same thing or this will happen to you.

Both Singer and Mdawg have this crazy idea that if they can discredit whoever makes legitimate challenges of their claims, it somehow makes their claims more credible. Like I was caught and admitted lying about the lawsuit part of my recent incident. Does anybody think that made it more likely (or at all likely) that Rob Singer owned a Newell? Won a 1.5 million dollar Jackpot on a 10 play that the casino set up just for him and then regretted it? Played the double up bug? Are any of these more likely now?

[Rob.Singer]

Robert, I know that you and MDawg enjoy insultlng, defiling and inflicting pain on KJ but please ask yourself one question: "Why?"

I will often flame someone, insult them, but never to the degree and with the severity that you employ.

I'm just curious whether you can articulate a reason for your actions?

Of COURSE I'll answer you!

I fully enjoy working someone like kew over because I recognized from the get-go that he had no problem lying in many of his posts. And why did he do that? Because he has zero self-confidence, he's seriously lacking in willpower and determination, he exhibits awful intelligence traits, and if he didn't come out and blab he was a queer I'd have shortly pegged him as one. In other words, he's the epitome of what I despise being around: a weak and insecure twit who tries to make up for his self-inflicted misery with lies, false personal attacks on other strong-willed & intelligent people, and that which he is the poster boy for to all forum members everywhere: someone who has to concoct a phony internet forum life in order to feel relevant in some undefined way.

This latest stupid episode of his was only due to him getting a lack of the attention he so desperately needs, in order to keep his fabrications on-track. And this is why I keep on him: he absolutely HATES successful people, which he knows I am; he HATES it that I have a normal American family that is close and a happy marriage that's nearly 45 years strong, and he cannot stand what a great life I have and have had.

So by constantly rubbing my life, my successes, my capabilities, and my overall intelligence directly in his face, I get him to react, to lie, and to show every reader just what a lifelong loser he really is and has been--something he SO NICELY just did in spades with his fictitious, nonsensical story....one that I, if I may remind you, called out as a fake cry out for attention the moment I saw it. And guess what?---he hates me even more for doing that to him. Which I absolutely LOVE!! Can you just IMAGINE how much it hurt to have to admit to lying after max and others totally obliterated his horse shit, BECAUSE HE KNEW I WOULD BE LAUGHING MY ASS OF AT HIM THROUGHOUT ETERNITY!!?

Baiting and pushing buttons on weaklings who care nothing about trying to better themselves, is just another forum pastime to me. And he is the KING of "victims". He deserves no respect because of his inability to try to be better. I didn't start out in life as this iron-willed, unafraid and unshakable person from a small town in liberal Mass. But I woke up after graduate school, when I had the opportunity to join the DoD and get training both physically and mentally that would change my life forever. And while it taught me numerous and interesting
skills (again, physically AND mentally) and toughened me up without question, it also gave me the caring, empathy and respect I needed in order to have such a great relationship with my family to this day. Prior to that, if you had asked me if I were ever gonna get married and have a family, I'd have shuttered at the thought of it and felt inadequate as hell.

All this bothers kew and people like him, no end. I say tough love. Not my fault he's such a nobody and such a loser in life. But he chooses to lie about me constantly, and he certainly realized long ago that he chose the wrong person to do that to. He also regrets threatening to kill me because of my strength in things and his pathetic weakness. All it did was give me real insight--and real facts--into what a total bullshitter he actually was....and continues to be until this day. He hates that, and I love watching losers flame out like he just did. And the fact that he knows I'm gloating more than anybody because I called bullshit on Day 1, irks him and will continue to bother and destroy him until he breathes his last breath--likely before 50.

Music to my ears!! And stick around as I tune him up even more!

[accountinquestion]

Is it true that all of your personal fakery - the big Ult-X hit, the Newell, the safe stacked with cash were all made up inorder to get under Kewl's skin?

<GOLF CLAP>

[kewlJ]

That way we'll get more poorly written, ill-prepared, and nervously untruthful (ha!--what else?) essays loaded with deflections about others spun with his "hey guys--I'm one of those millennial jerks!" specialty: misstatements, innuendos, and sleazy lies.
We LIKE that stuff!

Long poorly written essays like the post 2 above? Is that what you mean you geriatric fool? Almost always when Rob posts it is the kettle calling the pot black. He is just too stupid and self-absorbed to realize it. But everyone else sees it.

[kewlJ]

The funniest thing about Rob will come on judgement day.

When most "bad" people arrive at the pearly gates and are sent south by Saint Peter, at least they know that their stealing, and lying and robbing a bank benefited them here on earth for a short time. It will be small consolation for an eternity in hell, but at least they got something for it.

When Rob is handed a one way ticket south by Saint Peter for being a complete asshole on the internet, he will have gotten nothing for it. He still ended up without much, living off his social security mooching off his kids, with a little bit of inheritance from his wife's father than he went through in the final few years. As he spends eternity in hell, it may dawn on him: Internet stuff? Damn.


Rob is banking that there is no Saint Peter or hell. That seems like the ultimate gamble. But then Rob has always been just a gambler. Only fitting that his final and biggest gamble will result in his biggest loss.

[jbjb]

4+ different threads all arguing or the same bullshit?

Get a life people!