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  1. #1
    We've recently observed KJ get caught in a big lie, and MDawg and SInger in particular are piling on like flies on shit.

    Which is only understandable, as KJ has accused THEM of lying for years.

    Open-eyed forum members have long known that both MDawg and Singer have told whoppers about their claimed gambling success, which I suppose is what the typical liar would claim on a gambling forum.

    Oddly though, KJ didn't lie about any gambling success: he lied about failing, not winning.

    He didn't claim he went on a huge run: he lied about being caught and then being injured while being back rooomed.

    I'm no shrink, but I DO see that there is a difference in what motivates these three forum members to prevaricate.

    IMHO: MDawg lies in order to be perceived as "the bull of the woods," the one guy the casinos kow-tow to; he has money and is bored with life; he might lie at least in part as a mental exercise, penning new chapters of fiction to post on his blog / website.

    Singer lies because of the opposite reason: he isn't rich and wants to be seen as successful and powerful, having the near-powers of god to smite his detractors.

    Of the two, Robert's situation is more dire because I question whether he, unlike MDawg, clearly recognizes the motivation for his actions.

    KJ, in contrast, lies because it fits in the drama he wishes to surround himself with.

    His primary motivation is not to be perceived as successful, but as being resourceful and dexterous in the face of adversity, i.e. a survivor.

    Three men, three reasons, three less than honorable results.

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  2. #2
    MrV, I have a slightly different opinion about 2 of your 3 "characters".

    When Singer started his long list of fabricated claims and this was way before my time, back when he wrote a column for Gambling weekly and wrote his "book", Rob was out to impress people with something that wasn't true....that he was a successful gambler. At the time his claim was 10 years of playing what he called the Singer progression system.

    As time when on, fewer and fewer people believed this claim. By this time, I was in the picture and Singer came up with his double up bug claim stolen from Kane and Nestor. He had to revise the timeline of everything he said to make this claim fit. THIS is when I believe Singer switched from really trying to convince people, to just playing a troll game. This is about the time he came up with the Newell story, and posted a phony bill of sale, and eventually pictures from an RV dealership and a campground that he snuck up on another RV that didn't even match. So it started out him really trying to convince people that he was something he was not and at some point turned into just a game for him....a long running troll if you will.

    Mdawg I really can't begin to figure out. Like Dan Druff, I wonder why he couldn't have just shared his story of a higher limit player that receives higher end comps. Why did he have to make up all that winning, which is not how any of it works. Again, I can't answer that....Only he can. But I beleive a hint is in the title of his thread that he ran simultaneously at 3-4 different forums.....The ADVENTURES of Mdawg. That almost tells you before you have read a word, that the story is going to be rather spectacular, doesn't it? I mean how great an "adventure" would it be if he had honestly shared the experiences of a player who won AND LOST, like gambling really works?

    What I don't know is where it was supposed to go after he got started? He doesn't seem to have or prepared an end game to this great "adventure". Was the intent for a book, or movie script that has now all but blown up, explaining why he is so angry. I honestly don't know or really care. All I did, was like others said, sorry dude, "that is not the way it works". I just repeated it a little longer than some of the others.

  3. #3
    The UNKewLyingJ is the only one who was not only caught in multiple lies, but even finally was forced to admit to nonstop lying over a three month period, and did so admit?

    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It is a little less interesting now that kewlJ admitted that there was no actual lawsuit.
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  4. #4
    And poor little naughty kew will keep on whining and lying about me until he dives into his awaiting--and very merciful--grave.

    Hahahahaha!

  5. #5
    So I have recently been reading through old threads and even browsing GamblingForums. (Thank you Mdawg)

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...ig-score.6968/

    So on a road trip, we visited a casino we had never played before, and likely never will again. They had a promotion offering free play to new player card sign-ups and they matched tiers from other casinos, so we qualified for $50 free play each.

    So, there was a restriction that the free play could not be used on video poker as we intended, so my partner played a progressive slot and somehow, hit a low 6 figure jackpot.
    Guess who.

    This comes on $50 freeplay. Presumably he was not trying to maximize variance by betting it all on one spin. So Kewl is telling us he hit probably a 50,000x unit jackpot during $50 of coinin.

    Axel asks what the machine was? Kewl didn't answer.

    The best part ?

    I am not posting the picture as my partner is in the picture. lol. I didn't take the pic for purposes of posting it...just a personal memento. I generally don't do the posting picture thing. I am not proving anything. If people want to believe me, believe me, if they don't, then don't. Doesn't matter to me.
    You know of course he wouldn't bother to crop his "partner" out. lol. You know he doesn't care if people believe him.

    It is insane to me people have seen this guy post for more than a year or 2 would believe his nonsense. I've only known 1 guy to win a 6 figure jackpot and I'm sure the bet was relatively big and he is a sick degenerate. The Indians didn't want to pay him either. Was to be paid in an annuity (fine print) to an older guy who is unlikely to be around 20 years. They 'negotiated' a settlement.

    In Kewl's world though .. $50 Freeplay -> small bets (presumably) -> 100k+ jackpot but hey lets not mention the game or show even a picture... good stuff.

    And I'm not even LOOKING for his posts. Who knows how many other gems are out there.

    Clearly a compulsive liar. Couldn't hold back from a simple 5 figure jackpot. He had to go for it.

    Rob isn't a compulsive liar. Rob has just been on a lifelong quest to gain respect as a winning bettor. The *only* way he can accomplish this is with bullshit.

    I had forgotten how hard Rob tries until I was looking at older threads that have potential to be interesting.. then you come across this stuff and you remember how hard he tries to convince people. He came back from GamblingFonies once he realized the coast was clear and everyone was working Kewl over.

    2 peas of the same pod. Rob actually bothered to get a book published with rubbish. Who is more full of shit between those 2? It is hard to say but the book gives respect to Rob for the extra effort.

    Truly a tough call.
    Last edited by accountinquestion; 07-29-2023 at 10:57 PM.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

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    The best part !?! The thread is pinned !!

    And I don't think there is a scent of irony. Lol @ gamblingfonies. Redietz over there too strawmanning it up acting he has a clue. Him and Kewl giving each other under the waistline <ahem> massages over their shared expertise in EV while getting a somewhat embarrassing amount of their discussion simply wrong.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    So I have recently been reading through old threads and even browsing GamblingForums. (Thank you Mdawg)
    Mdawg is STILL PMing you, working the PM system to try to get you to join him in his continuing troll effort. Might be even sadder that you have accepted and join him in this quest. You are now full blown troll now AinQ, PMing and stargazing with Mdawg to stalk me. So I am putting you on ignore, just as I did Singer, Mdawg and Blackhole (at GF) earlier this week. I am just not going to bother with you fucktards anymore. Ive wasted way too much time on people like you. So do what you like. Prove beyond a doubt what an ass you are.

    That hit resulted in a pretty big write-up in the newspaper back East where it occurred. It didn't include my name but did include my partners name and some details. I guess I am lucky that was pre-Mdawg stalking me, as he might have been able to piece together some info to have helped him on his quest.

    That incident also resulted in one of the more unpleasant issues in my long relationship with my partner. He didn't want to split this win with my brother who wasn't on that trip with us, even though we had an agreement that the 3 of us were partners on all machine play. I had the final say and ruled in favor of splitting with my brother and my partner resented that and my brother for the next 11 months until he passed away. Money can really bring out the worst in people.

    This hit is also why when my partner passed away 11 months later, I decided to take 100k and split it among his 3 adult sons, even though they had no real relationship. It just seemed like the right thing to do. I felt like he contributed to my overall earnings and that money should go to his heirs.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-29-2023 at 11:53 PM.

  8. #8
    Lol. You didn't even mention the 6 figure game but I guess that would have 'outed' you because someone would be able to cross reference it with the newspaper back East. ???

    re: Mdawg and myself are tight. He's a real gambler. I respect that. After you took a 17 hour breather from the forums we both became very very concerned. We wanted to call in a welfare check but contrary to your bullshit you have never actually been doxxed so we couldn't. We did however worry. Mdawg's aight though. You too buddy. It is just good to be here with you people. Doesn't matter if you're a winner or a loser. We were both concerned about you bud.

    What is crazy to me is how you see yourself as on some mission to counter liars. You see yourself as being crucified getting the word out. I'm not going to bother quoting because I'm really not going out of my way to look at every little thing you say. I still don't know who Norm Whataburger is but wow. lol.

    Another interesting thing with you Kewl is that your lying is not part of a standard long con. You've been doing this forever now and it had given you so much credibility your bullshit meter got stuck and you stopped being able to discern a whopper from something reasonable.

    Seriously though most people into such a long con would have ended up working some angle and taken off with the money.

    Many years ago someone was on a long con and got a lot of people on the forum. He didn't even try to befriend me. I'm like krptonite to bullshit but the downside is I also get it wrong sometimes. It is easy enough to doubt everything and be right where others are wrong but one can wind up being more wrong than everyone.

    50,000x + unit bet.
    Hired programmer who figured out a secret that'd sink a billion dollar company in ... minutes !!
    Counts 3 tables at once at times !!!

    Love you, man. Regardless of it all, you're a character and IMO beloved on the forums. In some ways my respect for you has went up just because how many people believed you. Singer could never pull that off and he'd love to have been able to do so.

    This whole gambling forum circus thing is great.

    That GamblingFonies forum is something else. I came across one of those goofy press releases you can buy for a hundo. Wow! They were laying it on thick from the start. Good stuff if you share my sicko humor.

    And yes Rob, I saw you trying to get a rise out of me. Rest assured - I am in no way trying to fake having a life. Living around some casinos in podunky America kinda assures this I have no life.

    This hit is also why when my partner passed away 11 months later, I decided to take 100k and split it among his 3 adult sons, even though they had no real relationship. It just seemed like the right thing to do. I felt like he contributed to my overall earnings and that money should go to his heirs.
    Love the decorative icing to finish it off. You got that flair baby.
    Last edited by accountinquestion; 07-30-2023 at 12:04 AM.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  9. #9
    Kewl here let me tell you a bit about EV.

    Sharp people realize it will always have context.

    We agree what EV means in standard games of random chance, yes.

    There will be other domains where EV is clearly the closest term that the sharp people mutually understand.

    The question is NEVER "You know that isn't mathematically provable EV, right?".
    The question would be "How do you calculate your EV?".

    That is what is going on as EV. Every sharp person fucking knows it comes down to some opinions of someone somewhere. Everyone with half a brain understands all this.

    It is Redietz defending that ant hill.

    But what I really wanted to tell you is you need to stop listening to Redietz because he has you confused.

    I'm pretty sure it is the case that if you believe you can calculate the EV of bonuses and promotions then you will almost always have know the EV of the bets required to actually come up with a EV # for the promo. So you can't really have the EV of a promo without believing you can also come up with EV for a game.

    Why is this so hard.

    Here is another anthill Redietz loves. That book lines are always "to balance action". Yes most books do this. What Redietz doesn't seem to even be aware of is that there are sharp models. Again - these guys don't limit to the same degree.
    If you are a well financed book then you can do this.

    Yet Redietz likes to reiterate that lines are there to balance actions and yadda yadda. Who exactly is he trying to convince and of what exactly!?

    He is right that pretty much everytime someone says EV what they really mean is "EV estimation" but it is just redundant. No one is trying to prove they understand this little nuance. It is all implied.

    The short of it is Redietz needs to get a clue.

    ... and stop listening to him !
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  10. #10
    Referring to your personal estimates/guesses/speculations as "EV" is the height of arrogance. Comical arrogance, but arrogance nonetheless. Imposing some kind of precise math terms on imprecise processes doesn't imbue those processes with added precision.

    Using past results of sporting events in calculations of "EV" is completely wrong. It has no mathematical basis. You have no idea what is going into the calculation of any given pointspread, given that pointspreads are designed to balance action, not evaluate teams. What applied yesterday or the day before or for a decade or for a century may or may not have any relevance for today's games.

    In sports betting, outside of bonus analysis or pure arbitrage, laying on some "EV" jive just means you are making shit up, as most people looking for an excuse to gamble, or to call themselves "APs," tend to do.

    I get a kick out of some folks. They argue that, oh yeah, well this spread is off by two points, so I'll whack the hell out of it. Then you give them a reason that particular line is two points different, and they freeze in their tracks.

    And by the way, I did receive an invitation to The Wise Guys Contest, which is back after a two-year pandemic hiatus. About 60 people received invitations. I am technically retired, so I'm leaning to passing on it this season, but it's nice to be recognized as worthy of an invite. The Wise Guys Contest is about 35 years old. I think I've had the best college ATS record overall for the 30 years I was in it. My NFL games may have dragged me down to second or third overall, depending on method of calculation.

    I love account. He said people should be analyzing actual pointspread results to identify correlations with winning. He's a genius. About 30 years behind the times, but a genius nonetheless.

    On my 66th birthday, I leave you guys with this:

    Some people win in public under their own names for 45 years. And some people win in public under their own names for 45 years and get tagged for invitation-only contests reserved for the best in their business. And some of those same people work as sports gambling consultants for filmmakers and writers.

    Other people, with not a shred of public evidence that they've won anything doing anything, hold court anonymously and explain that the people who've won publicly for 45 years are wrong and why those people are wrong and folks should stop listening to them. They explain that the filmmakers and writers and industry professionals in business for 50 years are wrong about the alleged experts.

    It's up to readers to figure things out.
    Last edited by redietz; 07-30-2023 at 06:57 AM.

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Referring to your personal estimates/guesses/speculations as "EV" is the height of arrogance. Comical arrogance, but arrogance nonetheless. Imposing some kind of precise math terms on imprecise processes doesn't imbue those processes with added precision.

    Using past results of sporting events in calculations of "EV" is completely wrong. It has no mathematical basis. You have no idea what is going into the calculation of any given pointspread, given that pointspreads are designed to balance action, not evaluate teams. What applied yesterday or the day before or for a decade or for a century may or may not have any relevance for today's games.

    In sports betting, outside of bonus analysis or pure arbitrage, laying on some "EV" jive just means you are making shit up, as most people looking for an excuse to gamble, or to call themselves "APs," tend to do.

    I get a kick out of some folks. They argue that, oh yeah, well this spread is off by two points, so I'll whack the hell out of it. Then you give them a reason that particular line is two points different, and they freeze in their tracks.

    And by the way, I did receive an invitation to The Wise Guys Contest, which is back after a two-year pandemic hiatus. About 60 people received invitations. I am technically retired, so I'm leaning to passing on it this season, but it's nice to be recognized as worthy of an invite. The Wise Guys Contest is about 35 years old. I think I've had the best college ATS record overall for the 30 years I was in it. My NFL games may have dragged me down to second or third overall, depending on method of calculation.

    I love account. He said people should be analyzing actual pointspread results to identify correlations with winning. He's a genius. About 30 years behind the times, but a genius nonetheless.

    On my 66th birthday, I leave you guys with this:

    Some people win in public under their own names for 45 years. And some people win in public under their own names for 45 years and get tagged for invitation-only contests reserved for the best in their business. And some of those same people work as sports gambling consultants for filmmakers and writers.

    Other people, with not a shred of public evidence that they've won anything doing anything, hold court anonymously and explain that the people who've won publicly for 45 years are wrong and why those people are wrong and folks should stop listening to them. They explain that the filmmakers and writers and industry professionals in business for 50 years are wrong about the alleged experts.

    It's up to readers to figure things out.
    And some people who are the best at what they do are willing to show the money at anytime without needing the recognition from strangers.

    Clout chasers need recognition


    People selling picks or needing “investors” are fraudulent. You are a Vegas Dave type as far as I can tell. The only difference is you have connections to notorious people like Jerry Sandusky. O and a shit hole Italian restaurant near Grantvile.

    Yeah bookies make money so what. So do drug dealers and ?

    You Comrade can’t even show the money. Yawn

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    I am pretty sure something about this case will hit the news very shortly, as I have been contacted by email and text by one local TV News station here in Vegas. I didn't respond to either contact. I can't provide the information they are probably seeking. I don't know if they can get their hands on video, but if they do, I am sure this will be mentioned on the local news. At this point I don't even care, even if they name me.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    That hit resulted in a pretty big write-up in the newspaper back East where it occurred. It didn't include my name but did include my partners name and some details.
    Same lie, different day. Never any backup other than something he claims to have heard or seen, never any proof.

    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    What you have to do, to begin to get your arms around this whopper, is try to enter the mind of a compulsive liar like UNKewlJ. In his twisted mind, his coming up with some new, different explanation in an ever changing story, makes sense and somehow adds credibility. To anyone with any sense, it just deepens and darkens the cloud over his credibility, and makes his story more of a confirmed whopper.

    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    I don't think you'll ever give up your lying. It is too much ingrained in who you are. What I would suggest is you not do that shit around people who by and large are quite sharp.
    Every day is a different lie.
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I don't think there was any incident which was lawsuit-worthy, which is why we got so many changing and bizarre versions of the same story.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  13. #13
    His inability to grasp that if he simply admitted that he made up the entire backrooming incident, drew some kind of composite story from what happened to others and gave himself the lead, would lead to some semblance of believability, is a function of his being a compulsive liar.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Referring to your personal estimates/guesses/speculations as "EV" is the height of arrogance. Comical arrogance, but arrogance nonetheless. Imposing some kind of precise math terms on imprecise processes doesn't imbue those processes with added precision.

    Using past results of sporting events in calculations of "EV" is completely wrong. It has no mathematical basis. You have no idea what is going into the calculation of any given pointspread, given that pointspreads are designed to balance action, not evaluate teams. What applied yesterday or the day before or for a decade or for a century may or may not have any relevance for today's games.

    In sports betting, outside of bonus analysis or pure arbitrage, laying on some "EV" jive just means you are making shit up, as most people looking for an excuse to gamble, or to call themselves "APs," tend to do.

    I get a kick out of some folks. They argue that, oh yeah, well this spread is off by two points, so I'll whack the hell out of it. Then you give them a reason that particular line is two points different, and they freeze in their tracks.

    And by the way, I did receive an invitation to The Wise Guys Contest, which is back after a two-year pandemic hiatus. About 60 people received invitations. I am technically retired, so I'm leaning to passing on it this season, but it's nice to be recognized as worthy of an invite. The Wise Guys Contest is about 35 years old. I think I've had the best college ATS record overall for the 30 years I was in it. My NFL games may have dragged me down to second or third overall, depending on method of calculation.

    I love account. He said people should be analyzing actual pointspread results to identify correlations with winning. He's a genius. About 30 years behind the times, but a genius nonetheless.

    On my 66th birthday, I leave you guys with this:

    Some people win in public under their own names for 45 years. And some people win in public under their own names for 45 years and get tagged for invitation-only contests reserved for the best in their business. And some of those same people work as sports gambling consultants for filmmakers and writers.

    Other people, with not a shred of public evidence that they've won anything doing anything, hold court anonymously and explain that the people who've won publicly for 45 years are wrong and why those people are wrong and folks should stop listening to them. They explain that the filmmakers and writers and industry professionals in business for 50 years are wrong about the alleged experts.

    It's up to readers to figure things out.
    It isn't arrogance when everyone else knows what you are talking about. You just don't understand. That is all that needs to be said.

    On GamblingFonies that I said something about the EV of a sports event. No, it is the EV of the bet .. or EV of an event if you have the line I suppose.

    The fact is you can take historical pointspread and subsequent outcomes to make valid statistical inferences. So if you know that when the spread is -3.5 the result was -2 13.23% of the time then that can be used. This is how you could determine whether a novel teaser is +EV or not or many other related things.

    "You give them a reason that particular line is two points different and they freeze in their tracks". Lol. Do you step out of the mist filled corner with your fedora on when this happens?

    Yes it isn't perfect. Not claiming it is. That doesn't make it invalid.

    Keep defending the anthills Redietz. lol
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    His inability to grasp that if he simply admitted that he made up the entire backrooming incident, drew some kind of composite story from what happened to others and gave himself the lead, would lead to some semblance of believability, is a function of his being a compulsive liar.
    Yea poor feller. He avoids some details when he can't provide them. Like what was this 100k+ game. It is actually quite rare to have a 100k+ up top jackpot and be a game you're spinning off $50 FP with. If you're going to bother gettiing the FP you're not going to spin it off in $5 spins.

    However he just can't help himself when it comes to other details where he can't foresee that they obviously hurt his story. Yet he has to do it.

    It is really quite impressive that so many people more or less believed the guy for so many years.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  16. #16
    What AxelWolf said is actually pretty well thought out and spot on.

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Everything and anything he has ever said will come into question and years of his forum adventures in BJ and life will be labeled as fiction.
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    But now we haven't any clue as to what was/is true when it comes to you
    What he means of course is that suddenly it all makes sense...the pattern of, as MaxPen put it, looking at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

    People (not all, but some) just assumed that because he was yapping constantly about this or that that he must know what he is talking about and telling the truth.

    And then, now, we all see clearly, as DanDruff put it, kewlJ has a history of hoaxes and a lot of what you write could be total fiction. You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so. Notice the word that DanDruff uses, and not lightly, total. Total fiction.

    It's like the lights suddenly went on and now all the people, versus just some of the people, understand why UNKewLyingJ always spoke in generalities and theories and almost never described a single hand of actual blackjack play. Why he as BlackHole put it after 20 years of posting has never produced one iota of proof about anything he ever claimed or ever said. Not even a picture. It all makes sense now - he's been lying right and left about a lot of things, and freely offering up made up nonsense to back up his lies, until finally, he was caught.

    Mission146 on the UNKEWL one: you had a very long history that gave you some credibility on the forums. Now, you've lied about everything. Convincingly. Why should I believe anything a person says who has supposedly lied about literally everything except for that because...reasons?

    etc. etc.

    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Dude is a fraud.
    I mean the guy can't even admit that he cares what people think about him.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I really don't care what people think about me.
    Someone who lies even about something so obvious, is incapable of being honest with himself, let alone with others.
    Last edited by MDawg; 07-30-2023 at 11:48 AM.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  17. #17
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  18. #18
    I understand that Mdawg is in his glory right now. I called him out for years and this is his chance for revenge. The difference is that I called him out on claims that defied math. And later the way Las Vegas works, like the $100-$5000 spread nonsense). Everything I have ever claimed and shared about my blackjack results stand the test of the mathematics. And for good reason. That has to be the very low bar....does the math work or does what the person claims defy the mathematics.

    Mdawg continues to post a quote from axelwolf (posted above), in which Axelwolf responded to him with:

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I don't appropriate the fact that you are quoting me out of context and weaponizing it. That was said in conjunction with why he should attempt to provide some proof if he cares about that. Bold if you will, bold if you must, but If you can do me a favor and quote the full thrust.
    If we are going to quote Axelwolf and Dan Druff, here are a couple:

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    KJ,

    I think someone touched on this point a bit as to why isn't/hasn't Rob and MDawg being raked over the coals as much as you.
    They are not Advantage Players

    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Here are my conclusions:

    With that said, there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabcricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete.

    Do I think MDawg is winning? No. I think he probably has some money (maybe not as much as he claims), likes to gamble, likes the high roller treatment, and wants to present himself as a guy who gets all this AND wins, rather than just a chump who is getting lavish treatment because he's dumping money.
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. He simply likes to tell tall tales.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-30-2023 at 12:15 PM.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I mean the guy can't even admit that he cares what people think about him.
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I really don't care what people think about me.
    Someone who lies even about something so obvious, is incapable of being honest with himself, let alone with others.
    Until the day comes when UNKewLyingJ at least admits that he cares so much about what people think about him that he's kept awake at nights trying to think up new lies to try to back up his old lies, there will be no evidence of movement away from his compulsive lying.


    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Looks like you were up all night and realized there wasn't one single sealed case on the court docket.

    If people go back and look at your last few stories they will see a trend in you always changing the story after you get caught lying.

    At this point you have less credibility than week old gas station sushi. Give it up. It's just making you look pathetic at this point.

    Oh well, at least you apologized for lying to MrV. Who the fuck asks to consult with someone and have them give them their time for a lie? Mentally ill is the only answer I can come up with.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I understand that Mdawg is in his glory right now. I called him out for years and this is his chance for revenge. The difference is that I called him out on claims that defied math. And later the way Las Vegas works, like the $100-$5000 spread nonsense). Everything I have ever claimed and shared about my blackjack results stand the test of the mathematics. And for good reason. That has to be the very low bar....does the math work or does what the person claims defy the mathematics.

    Mdawg continues to post a quote from axelwolf (posted above), in which Axelwolf responded to him with:



    If we are going to quote Axelwolf and Dan Druff, here are a couple:




    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Here are my conclusions:

    With that said, there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabcricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete.

    Do I think MDawg is winning? No. I think he probably has some money (maybe not as much as he claims), likes to gamble, likes the high roller treatment, and wants to present himself as a guy who gets all this AND wins, rather than just a chump who is getting lavish treatment because he's dumping money.
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. He simply likes to tell tall tales.
    Why don't you name this slot that you supposedly hit for over 100k?

    I never saw that claim before. If I had, it would have made sense why so many people pegged you for the fraud that you are years ago.

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