kewlJ

[Gottlob1]

If MDawg is sincere about putting the final nail into KJ's online coffin, then he'll have to deposit the money with Dan, to see what KJ does about it. Funny giffs or whatever aren't going to cut it. As they say, "No guts, no glory."

No guts, no glory means that success is not possible unless one takes risks. In this case, the word guts means gumption, courage, or bravery. The word glory, in this case, means success or accolades.

Often, there's more to be learned from the guy who tries to show strength, than from the guy who tries to show caution. Ie, perhaps MDawg isn't the "chosen one" of the gambling world, after all.

[MisterV]

Dawg challenged KJ and not vice versa.


KJ is under no obligation to do anything other than try to prove his claim, which dawg bet he could not do.

You pinheads adding a requirement that KJ put money at stake are flat wrong.

Dawg is flaking out here, refusing to put his money where his big mouth is.

Just sayin;.

[Rob.Singer]

Just as kew concocted the "backrooming" nonsense for a good dose of attention, it is why he is doing it all over again with his phony one-way challenge, where he never has to withdraw any cash from his empty pockets.

The fairy is as sorry an a-hole as there has ever been.

Professional gambler my ass.

[MisterV]

KJ was chalenged, not vice versa.

What, the big, bad rich dawg is aftraid?

Sure looks that way ... bwa ha ha ha

[Rob.Singer]

Dawg challenged KJ and not vice versa.


KJ is under no obligation to do anything other than try to prove his claim, which dawg bet he could not do.

You pinheads adding a requirement that KJ put money at stake are flat wrong.

Dawg is flaking out here, refusing to put his money where his big mouth is.

Just sayin;.

As usual, your warped liberal tendencies are once again deceiving you.

You already know the only reason kew chose to dictate the silly $500k escrow for mdawg only is because he doesn't want this to see the light of day. If kew wins, that alone should be his platinum moment. Mdawg said he would pay him and since this isnt a bet, that should be that. If, of course, kew weren't a raging liar. You also know there are at least 2 other methods where this could be done digitally rather than via the analog route.

What you SHOULD be doing is talking the little queer into sharing his "proof" with you, then present it to the forum in a redacted format that can be verified. But we all know that'll never happen with such an attention-craving fraud.

[regnis]

It appears dawg made a challenge and kewl accepted. How about we all stop adding other provisions to THEIR bet.

If everyone is so certain kewls claim is bogus, you should be encouraging them to move on, not hinder it.

[accountinquestion]

If MDawg is sincere about putting the final nail into KJ's online coffin, then he'll have to deposit the money with Dan, to see what KJ does about it. Funny giffs or whatever aren't going to cut it. As they say, "No guts, no glory."

No guts, no glory means that success is not possible unless one takes risks. In this case, the word guts means gumption, courage, or bravery. The word glory, in this case, means success or accolades.

Often, there's more to be learned from the guy who tries to show strength, than from the guy who tries to show caution. Ie, perhaps MDawg isn't the "chosen one" of the gambling world, after all.

that coffin was not only nailed shut it was screwed down.

The deal is moving 500k is a lot of work and just a bit absurd. So Mdawg does that and we know what will happen. Now he has to take that 500k back. It is just nuts.

If Kewl is a real person, he'd negotiate something reasonable so he could make that $$. He puts up 2k, get Mdawg to put up something like 100k. Then proceed. If Mdawg welches on the rest then Kewl gets the 100k. 500k though? comeon.

but he won't put up 2k but if he did it is beyond laughable he'd be colluded against to chop up his 2k.

I'm just trying to make this happen or at least see Kewl squirm but it will never happen as we all know.

[accountinquestion]

KJ was chalenged, not vice versa.

What, the big, bad rich dawg is aftraid?

Sure looks that way ... bwa ha ha ha

Get off Kewl's tip bro.

Think about this from the money context and not the context of stupid forum nonsense.

If everyone is so certain kewls claim is bogus, you should be encouraging them to move on, not hinder it.

Yes, exactly.

[coach belly]

It appears dawg made a challenge and kewl accepted.

MDawg's challenge required that he and tewlj both risk and escrow an equal sum.

tewlj rejected that, he demanded a freeroll.

That's bogus.

[MisterV]

Get off Kewl's tip bro.

What a childish comment.

What makes you think I'm gay, much less that I'm having sex with KJ?

Just curious about your thinking process... or the lack thereof ...

Oh, I see: any time someone is pro-KJ you make up homophobic shit about them.

Stupid, stupid play, bro.

[coach belly]

What makes you think I'm gay, much less that I'm having sex with KJ?

Wow.

Relax, oldtimer...it's just a figure of speech.

[MisterV]

Who are you calling "oldtimer?"

I should beat the tar out of you with my buggy whip.

But thanks for your meaningless post; it was about as helpful as a piece of shit on a plow handle.

[Rob.Singer]

It appears dawg made a challenge and kewl accepted. How about we all stop adding other provisions to THEIR bet.

If everyone is so certain kewls claim is bogus, you should be encouraging them to move on, not hinder it.

Kind of agree. But this isn't a bet, and kew was the first to create a provision in the form of the other guy providing a $500k escrow. That was the first move dooming this. Just as kew stayed up all night drawing it up.

[coach belly]

But thanks

You're welcome.

You didn't like the tip comment.

LOL...The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Free your mind, and the rest will follow.

[accountinquestion]

Get off Kewl's tip bro.

What a childish comment.

What makes you think I'm gay, much less that I'm having sex with KJ?

Just curious about your thinking process... or the lack thereof ...

Oh, I see: any time someone is pro-KJ you make up homophobic shit about them.

Stupid, stupid play, bro.

A legitimate theory from a legitimate person suggested that yes, you subconsciously may want to have a physical relationship with Kewl.

I don't feel there is any homophobic stuff here. The get off his tip .. well.. perhaps that is a gay slur?

I'm not sure what to tell you man. It is just another theory to possibly explain the irrational behavior on this board.

Just got in a message

"Mr V protested too much"

Whatever buddy. I don't care either way.

[MisterV]

Just got in a message. "Mr V protested too much" Whatever buddy. I don't care either way.

LOL

Let me guess ... the PM came from You Know Who, i.e. He Who's Wealth Is Superior To We Mere Mortals.

He's foolishly PM'ed me before...amazing the steps the self-proclaimed rich and powerful will go through in order to prop up an illusion.

[accountinquestion]

Just got in a message. "Mr V protested too much" Whatever buddy. I don't care either way.

LOL

Let me guess ... the PM came from You Know Who, i.e. He Who's Wealth Is Superior To We Mere Mortals.

He's foolishly PM'ed me before...amazing the steps the self-proclaimed rich and powerful will go through in order to prop up an illusion.

No it was not Mdawg. I wouldn't call Mdawg legitimate or illegitimate. I don't care or know enough about him.

Or are you talking about Seedvalue? No, not him either.

Here is another theory. A lot of the forum dweller's beefs with Mdawg are due to him being clearly more articulate than most on here. It is kinda funny. You can be a fool and be very articulate so I'm not saying I particularly admire him for that but he is very good writer. Kewl is outmatched in numerous ways and it would seem his staying power comes from his feeding off the attention.

Maybe I can think up some more interesting theories I've heard from behind the scenes.

.. stirs the pot..
but it aint with bullshit. These are all legitimate theories I've heard behind the scenes.

Stop trying to discount me. It is only a theory. I also was not aware that this has been previously brought up.

The mind works on levels we ourselves do not consciously understand. After all we are litlte more than advanced apes. So go smoke a joint or whatever and don't worry about it man.

[accountinquestion]

But thanks

You didn't like the tip comment.

LOL...The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I almost quoted this line but I wanted to reiterate the fact that there are others who pointed out Mr V's excited protesting and they are neither Seedvalue or Mdawg. It was my choice to share the observation because .. shits and giggles and it might very well be true.

Anyway. I hope this doesn't become another meme of sorts on this forum.

[mickeycrimm]

That was at other places other than the Pioneer if that's the location in Laughlin you were thinking about. There's been many like situations, I can't remember them all.

I'm thinking it was 2001. The Pioneer came with that paycheck promotion again. I didn't know anyone in Laughlin other than casino hustlers. I knew one hustler that was a former poker dealer at the Edgewater. He knew lots of casino employee's in Laughlin.

He was offering them $50 plus all the card benefits to cash their checks at Pioneer then play vp until they hit a 4K. Of course, he bankrolled them. He told me he wasn't getting many takers. I told him to offer them half the royal if they hit it. He objected at first but I told him the money was in the quads, not the royal. Only 1 out of a hundred plays would they hit a royal.

So then he started getting lots of takers. A few weeks later I was in line at the Pioneer cage and heard a cashier shout to the back "Got another Belle paycheck!"

Then a few weeks after that, in my hotel room, I had the TV on to the local morning talk show which was about the Laughlin casinos. They had the Pioneer casino manager on.

So the host says "You've cancelled the $5 video pokers from the paycheck promotion. Why is that?"

The casino manager said "Well, sometimes, when you put on a promotion, you get beat."

Yeah, I can't remember exactly what I was playing in 2001. 98-2002 I spent a fair amount of time getting it in and having fun.

I don't know the exact year but I'm sure you heard that the New Laughlin Mall was handing out fun books that had double on 4-of-a-kind $125 max payout coupons for the Ramada. You could get as many as you wanted and play 1 per shift. They had the 4 7's play triple bonus machines that were close to even. That lasted for at least a short while and I was running as many people as I could. Eventually, they got overrun with Advantage Players and stopped it. I don't know if it was the same coupon book or not but it was around the same time where they had coupons that played double on straight flushes and they allowed you to use wild cards on $5 DW. Probably got off about 20 or 30 coupons before they stopped that.

The Ramada funbooks were going in 1996/97. I would stop by the outlet mall and pick one up everyday.

[kewlJ]

Just as I suspected and just as these things always play out the trolls on this forum are injecting themselves into a situation that doesn't involve them. I am going to post both Mdawg's "challenge" and my terms. Read both carefully. Comments will follow.

THE UNKEWL CHALLENGE

If this liar can produce evidence that he received a settlement from his made up backrooming incident on the date he claims I will match the amount he received in the ACH. The question just is, what is he willing to put up if he cannot produce the proof he claims exists. Since he "knows" he got the settlement, I'd assume that he'd put up any amount, since he "knows" he will win this challenge?

He doesn't have to meet me, he can provide the proof to the Wizard who will be back in town soon enough and can handle this. Hell, I don't care, he can provide it to MrV if he likes, MrV won't even have to come to Vegas all he will have to do is login to UNKewlJ's meager bank account to see that there is nothing there, barely two nickels to rub together and no record of any ACH from Saturday, 6/24/23. He may change the banking login password to something simple, facilitate Wizard or V's login, and then change it afterwards.

I know such evidence does not exist. It is impossible that he received an ACH after midnight on a Saturday (meaning, after 11:59pm Friday, 6/23/23).

I am in Vegas now and will leave this offer open for one week.

How about it UNKewlJ, is it worth it to you to double what you supposedly got in this settlement, in one blow? AND prove yourself.

Ok, I accept. These are my terms.

Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) is who I choose to be the arbitrator, although there will be written conditions, agreed to in writing by Wittless, enforceable by legal action, if necessary.

Since I can't say an exact amount by legal settlement agreement, Mdawg will need to deposit $500,000 with Todd Witteles.

I will meet with Todd, take him to my bank and request a print out of my account transactions for the period. This will insure that I am not using some doctored document. I will also allow him to speak with bank personnel, and authorize bank personnél to speak to him about my account, if he desires. These documents will not remain with Witteles after verification, nor be turned over to Mdawg to view at any time, as he has proven he will use whatever information he can to harm my career.

Upon completion of verification, Todd Witteles will disburse to me a matching amount of my recent settlement, from the escrow and return the balance less any agree fee for his participation to Mdawg.

These are my terms. They are non-negotiatable. And I will not spend days and weeks going back and forth as these challenges always do, turning into nothing. If and when Todd agrees to participate, money must be deposited within 24 hours or by the next business day if he agrees this weekend.

The challenge is really the first line of that Mdawg post which is "If this liar can produce evidence that he received a settlement from his made up backrooming incident on the date he claims I will match the amount he received in the ACH."

I chose Todd Witteles (or wittless ) because Mdawg has a several year history of manipulating Michael Shackleford who Mdawg suggested.

Mention of me putting up anything was almost an afterthought. It wasn't part of the challenge. It was a 'to be negotiated af later'. Well my terms are that I put up nothing and I have explained why. The possibility of collusion, which seems more likely to me than an honest challenge being paid.

Next issue is the ACH mention by Mdawg. There will have to be official terms written and that ACH will be removed. I never said anything about ACH. the transfer was from one account to another in the same bank. No ACH. I will not have Mdawg try to pull out on a technicality after proof has been shown to satisfy Dan Druff.

Mdawg is so hell bent on proving me wrong he offered to match my settlement amount. End of story. And that is what the escrow is about. I want an amount that will cover the settlement amount. 300K will do so. So I have come down from the original 500k, even though it sort of tells what the amount is, which I was not supposed to reveal.

Next, I have received a private communications from 2 different attorneys, one not even on this site, both with a very similar warning. That if this were to come about, and Druff was satisfied, Mdawg would pull a Donald Trump and try to drag the whole thing into court, arguing some loophole in the escrow agreement. I am not an attorney and have no idea how such legal action would play out. I suspect it would be tossed because it would be declared some sort of monetary wager and isn't that illegal?

So I would pay and talk to an attorney and have the attorney draw up the terms, before we proceeded. But I am not going to waste my time or money (or Dan Druff's time) until Druff is holding 300K to cover "matching my settlement". Dan Druff can negotiate any fee that he wants for his participation. That is completely up to him and between him and Mdawg. But I would recommend you get it in writing Dan Druff.

You trolls like AinQ can say whatever you want....stupid shit like a professional gambler wouldn't pass on this. This shit never comes to fruition. It is always just a huge waste of time. Especially for this kind of money. And this is well on it's way to that same kind of outcome.

You people can talk all you want. Inject yourself into something that isn't even about you, call me whatever names you want. None of that matters. If this is going to happen, Mdawg should make arrangements to escrow 300k with Todd Witteles (Dan Druff) and then we can start the legal stuff. But nothing happens except more troll talk until that first step is done. And this isn't an open ended deal on my part. I am done playing with this troll forum and you trolls that dominate it. So Shit or get off the pot, and let me go on my way. And you people can troll for years to come.