The UNKewl poem

[MDawg]

A slumber did my lying seal;
I pretended that I’d died
They seemed a thing that could not feel
The touch of all I denied.

No credibility have I now,
No standing no force;
I couldn’t even take a bow,
My fate was set, my liar’s course.

[MDawg]

Okay yeah, it may not be Wordsworth, but for something I whipped up in a few minutes, it gets the job done!


Another version of the second stanza:


A slumber did my lying seal;
I pretended that I’d died
They seemed a thing that could not feel
The touch of all I denied.

No credibility have I now,
No standing no force;
They realized I was just a cow,
A simple liar, who never had another course.

[smurgerburger]

I don't understand the first line.

Is the slumber a metaphor for when he took a short break after the initial exposure by Max Pen?

"They seemed..." refers to the other forum readers? If so the line is pretty abstract but I think I like it.

[kewlJ]

Except it isn't even something you "whipped up in a few minutes". We know this because it was posted less the 50 seconds after your previous post.

This is something you have worked on for God knows how long. Just like you spend hours searching the forums for some quote you can use.

You have had an agenda to isolate me (old army tactic) and discredit me because I am one of several real players who knows your bullshit is bullshit.

I am sure you are in your glory right now, thinking all your behind the scenes lobbying and PMing has paid off.

But let me ask you....what exactly have you won? I am still a real player supporting myself from card counting advantage play and you are still a poppy type losing player, gambling away your money in exchange for some comps of inflated value.

So nothing has changed in real life. You have just convinced a bunch of fellow homophobes to accept you back in the fold with your behind the scenes lobbying of your agenda.

What you think has changed in your or my real life is as much a fantasy as a $100-$5000 spread playing blackjack for 10 straight hours.

[smurgerburger]

KewlJ favors the biographical school of criticism it seems.

[MaxPen]

Except it isn't even something you "whipped up in a few minutes". We know this because it was posted less the 50 seconds after your previous post.

This is something you have worked on for God knows how long. Just like you spend hours searching the forums for some quote you can use.

You have had an agenda to isolate me (old army tactic) and discredit me because I am one of several real players who knows your bullshit is bullshit.

I am sure you are in your glory right now, thinking all your behind the scenes lobbying and PMing has paid off.

But let me ask you....what exactly have you won? I am still a real player supporting myself from card counting advantage play and you are still a poppy type losing player, gambling away your money in exchange for some comps of inflated value.

So nothing has changed in real life. You have just convinced a bunch of fellow homophobes to accept you back in the fold with your behind the scenes lobbying of your agenda.

What you think has changed in your or my real life is as much a fantasy as a $100-$5000 spread playing blackjack for 10 straight hours.

MDawg may come with some bullshit. But I'm pretty sure you don't have a clue to the possibilities of what he is really doing. All you've done is spent years trying to discredit the guy without providing one ounce of proof beyond the obvious as to what is really going on.

One of the reasons I have always stayed out of the MDawg drama for the most part is because of the possibilities as to what is really going on. Do you really think MDawg is dumb enough to spend years losing vast sums of money to the casinos? Even most high rollers wash out and never return in less than a year. If nothing else they lose everything and drop down in stakes if they are a degenerate. What makes one think MDawg is a degenerate?

[AxelWolf]

A slumber did my lying seal;
I pretended that I’d died
They seemed a thing that could not feel
The touch of all I denied.

No credibility have I now,
No standing no force;
I couldn’t even take a bow,
My fate was set, my liar’s course.

This was absolutely terrible. I definitely could've done way better if my sole purpose in life was to slam KJ.

[AxelWolf]

Except it isn't even something you "whipped up in a few minutes". We know this because it was posted less the 50 seconds after your previous post.

This is something you have worked on for God knows how long. Just like you spend hours searching the forums for some quote you can use.

You have had an agenda to isolate me (old army tactic) and discredit me because I am one of several real players who knows your bullshit is bullshit.

I am sure you are in your glory right now, thinking all your behind the scenes lobbying and PMing has paid off.

But let me ask you....what exactly have you won? I am still a real player supporting myself from card counting advantage play and you are still a poppy type losing player, gambling away your money in exchange for some comps of inflated value.

So nothing has changed in real life. You have just convinced a bunch of fellow homophobes to accept you back in the fold with your behind the scenes lobbying of your agenda.

What you think has changed in your or my real life is as much a fantasy as a $100-$5000 spread playing blackjack for 10 straight hours.

MDawg may come with some bullshit. But I'm pretty sure you don't have a clue to the possibilities of what he is really doing. All you've done is spent years trying to discredit the guy without providing one ounce of proof beyond the obvious as to what is really going on.

One of the reasons I have always stayed out of the MDawg drama for the most part is because of the possibilities as to what is really going on. Do you really think MDawg is dumb enough to spend years losing vast sums of money to the casinos? Even most high rollers wash out and never return in less than a year. If nothing else they lose everything and drop down in stakes if they are a degenerate. What makes one think MDawg is a degenerate?

I don't believe there's any targeted AP significant AP stuff going on, and his always-winning shtick is BS. Many of his stories are BS.

There's something going on that we don't know and it's probably nefarious. But I don't know if it's degeneracy at hand.

[MaxPen]

Not everything is about advantage play as you well know. But you know I've stayed out of it. I have even given some of you a hard time regarding the feud

[MisterV]

The Dawg is a man of mystery.

Specifically, where does he get the money to fuel what seems to be a very expensive gambling habit?

I don't think he gets it all from practicing law, but ... maybe ...

My suspicion is some other source, perhaps family money.

Whatever, do the clothes make the man or does the man make the clothes?

[kewlJ]

One of the reasons I have always stayed out of the MDawg drama for the most part is because of the possibilities as to what is really going on. Do you really think MDawg is dumb enough to spend years losing vast sums of money to the casinos? Even most high rollers wash out and never return in less than a year. If nothing else they lose everything and drop down in stakes if they are a degenerate. What makes one think MDawg is a degenerate?

I will risk responding to you like a normal decent human being, instead of someone doing nothing but trolling me.

When Mdawg first emerged and remember the whole great adventure was about baccarat, not blackjack. As a matter of fact he told us that he was banned from playing blackjack 10 years earlier.

So anyway, I wasn't even at WoV, so I didn't have a chance to question him. When discussion started here, I said maybe he is doing something to have an advantage that he isn't telling us. Axelwolf actually asked this question multiple times at WoV. So when I was re-instated at WoV, and finally had a chance to comment directly to Mdawg, I asked that same question multiple times. So he was asked many times and at least one time he said "no". Most of the time he just didn't answer.

Now, lets say he was doing something top secret that no one else knew about. You are an AP, MaxPen, how would you or any other AP or real winning player handle that? You wouldn't be blabbing about all the winning on forums. I can do that, because I am just counting cards. Nothing new. But no one in their right mind would be blabbing about winning while doing something top secret. That would just draw attention. Additionally, Mdawg started saying his voodoo comments like "betting into streaks" and somehow he was able to win because he has a large bankroll. That second comment is actually progressive wagering lingo and voodoo, which happens to be what many of us thought he was doing.

So no, I don't believe he is doing anything that gives him an advantage. By the way there was one time that Axelwolf mentioned 'loss rebates' and Mdawg immediately jumped on that saying "yeah that is what I am doing....loss rebates" Well guess what? Loss rebates don't result in 50 winning sessions in a row, or even many winning sessions in a row. The advantage from loss rebates occurs when you lose as you well know.

And finally, we all know enough about the Las Vegas casinos, to know they aren't comping someone high-end suites some 1200 nights over a 4 year period, including months and months in a row, including one 7 months period every single night, especially while they win millions over that time period as he claimed. It is just nonsense Maxpen. It is NOT the way Las Vegas or the casino industry works.

And then he switched to primarily blackjack, the game he previously told us he was banned from for counting cards. He says he asked and they lifted the ban. Yeah, that is they way it works. "Please, I promise not to count cards again".

I suspected, and Boz actually came out and said it, that the only reason he switched to blackjack was to try to top me, because he played higher stakes. But guess what, nothing he has said about blackjack is the way card counting works. NOTHING! To the point that even Mike called out his $100-$5000 spread, playing double deck, for 10 straight hours, and winning 60k. Any pit guy that allowed that would be collecting unemployment right now.

What his story is somewhat consistent with is a progressive player, which cannot over come -EV and will still result in long-term losing. If you just realize he isn't telling us about the very big losing sessions that come with progression systems wiping away all the smaller win, then everything makes sense. Everything falls into place, including the comps and casinos tolerating his play.

I probably have used the term "degenerate gambler" in referring to Mdawg. I tend to think of all long-term losing players as degenerate because they know they are going to lose and keep playing. But really there are recreational players that enjoy gambling and are ok with losing long-term. They are not really degenerates. Degenerates really should be reserved for people that lose every damn cent they have and can't pay rent, or can't eat at the end of the month until their next payday or gov check or whatever. So, No Mdawg is not a degenerate losing player. If I said that in the heat of moment, I was wrong. He is a wealthier guy that can afford to gamble and lose and likes the comps he gets for doing so.

He isn't the greatest or the luckiest gambler ever, MaxPen, nor has he discovered that elusive holy grail that every -EV gambler has been searching for since the beginning of time. He is a guy writing a story. Hense all the "pope of Las Vegas" and all that crap.

MaxPen, you are starting to make a habit of being wrong. It is NOT a good look for you.

[kewlJ]

Additionally, Wizard has seen Mdawg play more than just that one time involving the bet right? Is that correct Mdawg? Well Wizard is bound by a confidentiality agreement not to say anything. But one time, Mike chose to break that agreement and said something to the effect that what Mdawg was doing was NOT a winning (long-term) strategy. Of course Mike had to retract that statement because Mdawg (politely I am sure) reminded Mike that he had signed a NDA.

[kewlJ]

The bottom line is, if you are going to tell a story where you win all the time, or even just win more than you lose over a long period of time....be able to say what you are doing that gives you a mathematical advantage. I am just so sick of the tales involving "magic beans" or "special plays" or other complete voodoo nonsense like "betting into streaks".

Have a story that doesn't defy the math. Is that too fucking much to ask?

[MaxPen]

3 posts saying what you've said over and over. You're still not looking at the trees and blinded by your forest of beliefs. If somebody wants to bring forth the possibilities of what's going on then maybe a discussion could get started. Not everything that goes on in a casino is about playing with an advantage to get what you want.

Some stories are just great entertainment or making a mockery out of a situation.

[Gottlob1]

The Dawg is a man of mystery.

Specifically, where does he get the money to fuel what seems to be a very expensive gambling habit?

I don't think he gets it all from practicing law, but ... maybe ...

My suspicion is some other source, perhaps family money.

Whatever, do the clothes make the man or does the man make the clothes?

I give him a pass because he's not trying to take over, he's not saying that such and such a bad method works, he's not impossible to reason with, and so on, all of the things that KJ is, and does. MDawg is harmless.

Let's check out his poem, or whatever.

First part.

A slumber did my lying seal;
I pretended that I’d died
They seemed a thing that could not feel
The touch of all I denied.

---> Intellectual disability and higher education in the United States .

https://anagram-solver.net/A%20slumb....?partial=true


Guess which of them has the higher education. Ha.

Second part.

No credibility h4ve I n0w,
No st4nding n0 force,
I couldn’t even t4ke a b0w,
My f4te was set, my liar’s c0urse

---> Denying Evolution: Creationism, Scientism, and the Nature of Science.

https://anagram-solver.net/No%20cred...e?partial=true


Okay, had to remove 4 a's, and 4 o's. I guess that KJ is still dead 4, as in the Chinese numerical interpretation of. Speaking of afterlife, and, then afterdeath.

[MDawg]

There's something going on that we don't know and it's probably nefarious.

He thinks that because he's nefarious - he's a "greedy scrambler" (Monet's words ) or con man (my words). It makes perfect sense that someone who makes his living off getting over on people would think that it's impossible to win straight up.


Same way that FraudJ being the fraud that he is, sees fraud everywhere too.

mickeycrimm on the UNKewl one: We have a fraudster thats been calling others fraudsters for quite awhile. WTF?

[MDawg]

I don't understand the first line.

Is the slumber a metaphor for when he took a short break after the initial exposure by Max Pen?

"They seemed..." refers to the other forum readers? If so the line is pretty abstract but I think I like it.

The first line I kept mostly intact from Wordsworth's famous poem, "A slumber did my spirit seal," which basically refers to how the poet's spirit was ignorant and in a "slumber," deluded and unaware of the true way things are. UNKewlJ was (is ) deluded, in a "slumber," about the effectiveness of his lying.

They seemed a thing that could not feel, refers to the forum readers, YES, that he thought that we couldn't feel his lies, that he was getting over on us, or hoping that he had gotten over on us. That line too is more or less intact from the original poem.

[MDawg]

KewlJ favors the biographical school of criticism it seems.

The concept of "I've already explained why" (without repeating the Why ad nauseam), is alien to him.

But of course we know the reason for this manic constant repetition - it's because he realizes and fears he's not getting through to anyone, so he has to keep dropping these rambling tirades over and over, repeating the same nonsense with every post, whether his "MDawg spiel" and "RobSinger spiel" have any relevance to whatever it is he is repeating himself about (again) or not.

Over time his cluttered brain picks up more nonsense that crowds it until he's compelled to present an ever longer, ever more repetitive, litany of nonsense with almost every post.

"Goddamit! I'm just trying to 'stablish something!"


litany - a tedious recital or repetitive series

[AxelWolf]

There's something going on that we don't know and it's probably nefarious.

He thinks that because he's nefarious - he's a "greedy scrambler" (Monet's words ) or con man (my words). It makes perfect sense that someone who makes his living off getting over on people would think that it's impossible to win straight up.


Same way that FraudJ being the fraud that he is, sees fraud everywhere too.

mickeycrimm on the UNKewl one: We have a fraudster thats been calling others fraudsters for quite awhile. WTF?

" It makes perfect sense that someone who makes his living off getting over on people"

Back that up with any legitimate source or facts.

I certainly get over on the casinos but you're truly misinformed regarding your statement. FYI if you do some of the things you claim then you are getting over on the casinos as well.

FYI many others also believe you're up to something hinky.

[kewlJ]

But of course we know the reason for this manic constant repetition

Mdog, you can call it manic constant repetition if you like. I kind of like that. It means I am getting through to you.

There is a rule of propaganda and lying dating back to Hitler and the Nazis that says if you repeat a lie often enough, people will begin to believe it. That is what you do with your bullshit claims that defy math and the way Las Vegas works. That is what Singer, before you did. So as long as you continue to repeat these bullshit claims of all the winning and fantasy bet spread and casinos not caring, I will continue to challenge and call it out as bullshit.

You have been on a campaign to discredit me for well over a year now, working people behind the scenes. Dan Druff even busted you for it once, when you were PMing people here trying to get them to vote for you in a poll. How retarded. I don't care if you manage to turn every person on every forum against me. Maybe you already have. But I am not going anywhere. As long as you continue to push this bullshit, I will continue to call it out for what it is.

And people claim I am not having any fun.