The UNKewl Challenge - did UNKewlJ receive any settlement money for his fictional backrooming incident?

[accountinquestion]

Dude, do you ever step back and think about some of this shit?

You are proposing that I, or anyone for that matter, contact their attorney or any other person they deal with in real life matters, and request them to come to an anonymous message board forum consisting of about 12 goofy people to prove whatever it is that these 12 goofy members are demanding proof of?

Come on man....this is not normal behavior or thoughts.

(now if it were Rob Singer that this attorney silliness were being demanded from, we would have said attorney, show up at the forum, and said attorney would be using the same IP address as Rob, or perhaps trying to hide it with a VPN, as he did with real estate expert GirlFriday, vouching for him)

Funny, but seriously, this is not normal behavior. Prove this. Prove that. Let's here from your attorney or your accountant or whomever like it is a court of law and you are on trial. Do you really NOT see how ridiculous this is?

This is an internet message board forum. Sorry to keep repeating that but some of you people don't seem to get that.

No. He is saying he will pay the man's expenses. Attornies run businesses. People hire them. This is actually how the normal everyday real world works my friend.

I don't have a need for an attorney, kewl... that is actually "not normal".

We're not asking you to prove anything necessarily. We're trying to give you a chance to demonstrate that any of these claims of yours are factual.

I'll pay an for an hour of his billable to sweeten the pot on top of what he wishes to bill Smurger as reasonable.

I am sorry, but I can't imagine any Attorney agreeing to go to some message board, create an account, and post verifying something for a group of people on an internet forum, even if being paid. MrV and regnis can weigh in. Maybe I am wrong. maybe there are some that will do anything for the money. probably are I guess. But it isn't the attorney that handled my situation and I probably would steer clear of an attorney that I saw do something like that.

Again, it all boils down to that I don't think you and others here understand what an internet forum is.

WHat are you talking about? You are his client. You would be asking him to verify something. I suppose he could do a letter but that would be mean that he has to be contacted to verify the letter. It is weird but the world has changed. Lots of sharp guys around here impressed by what the attorney did. It is a sharp play for him to advertise. He knows the ins and outs of casinos.

You act like there is some ethical line they are crossing?

You did use the N word. Is that your concern?

[kewlJ]

WHat are you talking about? You are his client. You would be asking him to verify something. I suppose he could do a letter but that would be mean that he has to be contacted to verify the letter.

If you are serious about this and seriously think this is normal and acceptable, then I don't know what to tell you. You have blurred the lines between real life and some kind of second city, virtual internet life and existence.

[MaxPen]

WHat are you talking about? You are his client. You would be asking him to verify something. I suppose he could do a letter but that would be mean that he has to be contacted to verify the letter.

If you are serious about this and seriously think this is normal and acceptable, then I don't know what to tell you. You have blurred the lines between real life and some kind of second city, virtual internet life and existence.

I like how some fraud that didn't know if he was a plaintiff or a defendant at the onset of his fairy tale thinks he knows how the world works.

[MisterV]

hHow could one possibly debunk the statement "I confirmed this"?

By attacking his credibility, the same way you and others here have attempted to discredit KJ.

Oh wait a minute...that's tough to do since regnis doesn't play in any of the reindeer games here.

[kewlJ]

Gotta love these guys that do and say everything they can think of to discredit someone who says something they don't want to hear or believe, and then they pretend that they don't know that is what they did.

[accountinquestion]

Gotta love these guys that do and say everything they can think of to discredit someone who says something they don't want to hear or believe, and then they pretend that they don't know that is what they did.

Lol bro you discredit yourself.

[Garnabby]

MrV. No court accepts "confirmation" of anything from peek-a-boo, self-styled, and nameless, lawyer(s) on gambling forums who claim that it doesn't mean anything. That "dog" won't hunt.

On the contrary, KJ has clearly acknowledged that he will, and already has gone that route. So, why not more easily do it for real?

One simple letter of a short paragraph to verify the filing of the supposed claim. $100 . KJ could post it in his signature, as a lifetime achievement of sorts. Liar, and bullshitter, Mickey, and, next, you, might try to "rub it in our faces".

If not, it's further evidence that Regnis is more of a "hound" than MDawg may be.

Harumph.

[smurgerburger]

hHow could one possibly debunk the statement "I confirmed this"?

By attacking his credibility, the same way you and others here have attempted to discredit KJ.

Oh wait a minute...that's tough to do since regnis doesn't play in any of the reindeer games here.

This is incorrect. We have discredited KJ's numerous lies on their own merits.

It is true that he has lied so many times that now I simply don't believe anything he says, but the argument against the backrooming story was never ad hominem. It was against the story itself (and KJ's constant backpedaling when caught in a lie or implausibility).

You don't even know whether regnis was joking or baiting Mdawg (which contrary to what you say he apparently has done).

But again I don't think you grasp how implausible KJ's story is in the first place which makes this exchange pointless.

[MisterV]

MrV. No court accepts "confirmation" of anything from peek-a-boo, self-styled, and nameless, lawyer(s) on gambling forums who claim that it doesn't mean anything. That "dog" won't hunt.

Garnabby, I cannot speak as to how the law works in your home country, Canada, but here in the USA it happens this way ALL THE TIME.

Of course, this is not a court of law, it is a gambling forum where no proof is required.

But were this a courtroom, regnis would be free to make his claim, and it could be questioned by cross-examination.

So...why don't you and the others cross-examine regnis?

It seems he doesn't want to go public with the specifics of his investigation so why not PM him and ask for more info?

[Garnabby]

MrV. You don't receive 'em, but, I don't send 'em, the PM's on message boards. And, again, it's not my claim to prove.

The Wizard had to show up in court, to be sworn in as Michael Shackleford, to give detailed testimony about some gambling context, for the case(s) in which he was an expert witness.

But, here, it appears that Regnis was always more or less goofing around. Even our man "Tuesday" is more straightforward. Heck, Regnis still has "papers in his basement", I guess, in case someone asks about a horse race bet from thirty years ago. Ha.

[smurgerburger]

MrV. No court accepts "confirmation" of anything from peek-a-boo, self-styled, and nameless, lawyer(s) on gambling forums who claim that it doesn't mean anything. That "dog" won't hunt.

Garnabby, I cannot speak as to how the law works in your home country, Canada, but here in the USA it happens this way ALL THE TIME.

Of course, this is not a court of law, it is a gambling forum where no proof is required.

But were this a courtroom, regnis would be free to make his claim, and it could be questioned by cross-examination.

So...why don't you and the others cross-examine regnis?

It seems he doesn't want to go public with the specifics of his investigation so why not PM him and ask for more info?

Obviously if regnis is reading this thread he understands that everyone wants him to elaborate (except KJ of course).

[MDawg]

As far as regnis, I exchanged a couple PMs with him and he didn't even address the matter of the backrooming incident, all he wanted to discuss with me was why someone like me bothered to even engage with someone like UNKewlJ. I pointed out simply that by posting what he posted he was stirring the pot, and asked him how that made him any better than UNKewl or MrV? He pointed out that he goes months without posting and stays out of the all day trolling, which is true. Disclosing that he said something like that I don't think he would mind, doesn't violate any real confidentiality.

But, no, via PM he did not explain why he posted what he posted or elaborate on it.

Anyway, I haven't had a negative interaction with regnis. He seems like a reserved decent person. I do point out that he was mistaken about the CTRs but to his credit he didn't keep up with arguing about it, he let it go.

He doesn't seem like the trolling type but then he did create those two mischievous trolling threads that I pointed out.

In any case, we have no idea what UNKewlJ gave him, I doubt UNKewlJ even remembers exactly what he told him because he gave so many different versions of his lie to so many different people, including altering the fable online day to day, that he couldn't even keep track of his ever changing lies.

He didn't give anyone any proof. At best, he gave one of his victims who was forced to listen to his lie a version that made more sense.

And exactly, yes, why did he not give V the same story he gave regnis, assuming even that's what happened here.

And as I've said from the beginning,

What happened here, is that something happened to someone - to more than one person, and UNKewlJ took it upon himself to put together a composite story about a series of events.

The latest story from the perennially UNKewl one is actually a composite of things that happened on more than one occasion to more than one person, and includes all the dramatic elements of being back roomed and roughed up, with a broken arm and ambulance ride to boot.

in which case revealing the name of some casino where something happened

What I did share with him (last year), was the casino involved.

doesn't prove anything.

Seriously, UNKewlJ should just keep his mouth shut. The more he opens it the more desperate his lies seem. And the more he contradicts himself and makes his lies more evident.

[MDawg]

Gotta love these guys that do and say everything they can think of to discredit someone who says something they don't want to hear or believe, and then they pretend that they don't know that is what they did.

Lol bro you discredit yourself.

Yes you must be so sad as your posts are about everything YOU do here this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand how often you contradict yourself, sometimes one post to the very next post you post this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand how often you post hypocritical posts this forum, you condemn the very behaviour you, yourself post about here this forum.

You must have a mental problem as you just fail to understand that you constantly discredit YOUR OWN character yet claim others are discrediting you.

You must have a mental problem because you display homophobic dislike of yourself for being gay. It’s a nasty queer trait of self loathing homosexuals that manifests with ugly queers. We’ve all meet at least one in our lifetime. It’s that trait you display that give all the good gays a bad name.

As stated you’re a slow moving car wreck. I got beer and popcorn, I love watching you unravel.

[jdog]

...that's tough to do since regnis doesn't play in any of the reindeer games here.

No so fast V.

I looked up the thread regnis started that MDawg has referred to: The Adventures of Dawg-Poop... 4/25/2021:

I am coming clean. Tired of all the fiction here. I am going to show how I went from bust out bum to multi millionaire crushing Sic Bo. For security purposes, I have held this story back so the timelines may be months or even years ago.

After my divorce, dis-barment, and a brief fully comped stay in a state facility, I moved to Vegas to start over. Fronted two months at the Downtowner so now I needed a bankroll. No fancy watches but I was able to get 1.95 for my broken Timex at the local pawnshop. Needed another nickel for my exacta bet when an idea hit me. There was a blind guitar player on the overpass. I pretended to put $$ in his cup but actually stole a nickel.

Off to the local race and sports. Hit the exacta for 28.60. And so it starts.

Clearly the guy likes to pull dawg's chain and has a sense of humor. You can draw your own conclusions as to the intentions behind his "confirmation" post.

[MisterV]

Context is everything.

Obviously he is spoofing the hound's way of braggadocio posting.

But the subject at hand is KJ, not the hound: I think we all agree that MDawg is full of shit: regnis is simply one of many in that regard.

As for the term "reindeer games" I was referring to the ongoing threads about discrediting KJ, which regnis has stayed away from.

[jdog]

For security purposes, I have held this story back so the timelines may be months or even years ago.

You don't think this is a dig at kewl??

But even if you don't, you do agree he's goofing on MDawg. What better way to get under the MDawg's skin than to confirm kewl's story? And wind everybody up here at the same time?? I can't think of one.

[kewlJ]

I really don't have time for another day of this shit, so I will just say this and be gone:

Regnis made a sarcastic post mocking Mdawg, where he announced the mocking intent in the first sentence. Jdog is comparing that to a post made about "confirming" something that would change his reputation and credibility built up over a decade?

Really Jdog, you seen no difference in these two posts?

[Garnabby]

KJ ... Put up, or, shut up. Ha.

You're the one who put the U in Urinal.


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In any case, we have no idea what UNKewlJ gave him

What information would regnis need to confirm that tewlj was involved in the incident?

Anyone with details of the incident could claim that they were the "victim", if no name is attached.

So wouldn't regnis need to know his real name to confirm that tewlj was involved?

Is it plausible that tewlj gave regnis his real name, without remembering that he did?

I had sort of forgotten my conversation with regnis until I just went back and just re-read it.

[accountinquestion]

I really don't have time for another day of this shit, so I will just say this and be gone:

Regnis made a sarcastic post mocking Mdawg, where he announced the mocking intent in the first sentence. Jdog is comparing that to a post made about "confirming" something that would change his reputation and credibility built up over a decade?

Really Jdog, you seen no difference in these two posts?

I believe the point is that regnis likes to bs a bit, mix it up and have fun. Which greatly lowers the chance he is sincere in his "confirmation".