The UNKewl Challenge - did UNKewlJ receive any settlement money for his fictional backrooming incident?

[MDawg]

Nothing has changed...nothing to see here, nothing to add.

What happened here, is that something happened to someone - to more than one person, and UNKewlJ took it upon himself to put together a composite story about a series of events.

The latest story from the perennially UNKewl one is actually a composite of things that happened on more than one occasion to more than one person, and includes all the dramatic elements of being back roomed and roughed up, with a broken arm and ambulance ride to boot.

Very well written summary, MDawg.

I enjoyed it. It is a little less interesting now that kewlJ admitted that there was no actual lawsuit.

I like how MaxPen called it kewlJ's "Newell moment". Hilarious.

I have no dog in this fight, and don't dislike kewlJ like you and many others do. However, I will admit that this never smelled quite right to me, and my personal belief at this point is that kewlJ made the whole thing up.

Perhaps it's loosely based upon a real incident, such as a blackjack ban he received where a security guard roughly handled him and accidentally hurt kewlJ's arm a little bit. I don't think there was any incident which was lawsuit-worthy, which is why we got so many changing and bizarre versions of the same story.

[kewlJ]

(responding to Smurgersburger's comment)

The proof, identifies who I am. That is the reason from day 1, I was not willing to do so.

You claim to be an AP (which I have no reason to doubt), so how can you not understand this?

Anyway, I am not going to rehash all of this a year later. The KJ haters and trolls will NEVER accept what they obsessively don't want to believe. It really is that simple.

[MDawg]

Just another Saturday night at VCT,

watching a drowning person reaching for a life preserver that's 10 arm lengths away.

Well actually, it's Friday. But it feels like Saturday.

And every night is a night where FraudJ drowns in his own lies whenever he opens his mouth.

[smurgerburger]

(responding to Smurgersburger's comment)

The proof, identifies who I am. That is the reason from day 1, I was not willing to do so.

You claim to be an AP (which I have no reason to doubt), so how can you not understand this?

Anyway, I am not going to rehash all of this a year later. The KJ haters and trolls will NEVER accept what they obsessively don't want to believe. It really is that simple.

Obscure the identifying details then. Sure that may not be enough for us but who knows.

Or even just describe it. For example say it's a check for X amount issue to you from a casino. No harm in that right?

Unless you're afraid that there's something you overlooked that will allow us to change regnis' mind without even seeing your "proof".

[MDawg]

V, you recall what I wrote in May 2023?

V, you realize there are only two possibilities.

One, there is no lawsuit hence there was no proof for UNKewlJ to give you.

Two, he doesn't trust you.

And you still stick up for this bum at times? Now you see how little he trusted you and how little he thought of you. He laid the whopper version of the lie on you, figuring you'd buy it, but a more plausible version of the lie on others. And here in public he's laid out every possible everchanging version.

You have fake deaths, marriages and deaths, evil doxxers, backroom arm-breakers, and after-the-fact-"misdirection" that would have been unnecessary if you simply don't make public the narrative.

[kewlJ]

This is my final comments on this as I am just not going to rehash all this a year later.

Look at the names in the poll in this thread. With the exception of Dan Druff (which I will get to in a minute), it is simply the half dozen or so people that hate and troll me obsessively.

Look at the names you don't see, rather than the names you do see. You don't see mickeycrimm. Nor Axelwolf, nor regnis (we now know why), nor PostiveVariance, who happens to be damn good at investigating these kinds of things, nor JBJB, nor other real players and AP's.

Now I am not saying what all these people believe or don't believe. That is up to them. But these are all people with the capability to look into it a bit, maybe they know someone ect and none of them have signed on to all this trolling and lies that have been said about me for a years now.

As for Dan Druff. Just like everyone else Dan Druff can decide for himself what he believes, look into what he wants and can. But Druff, visits the forum every once in a while to make some sports picks and read for a few minutes. I don't know what details he knows or read. If he had any questions, he could have asked me and I would have almost surely shared enough with him that he could have confirmed just as I did with others that I trusted. Dan Druff didn't do that.

It is just absurd that you people are so small, you make up all the shit that you do and think that is funny. It really is. And yes, I am looking at YOU Maxpen. This is the shit that you think is funny? Are you 9 years old?

[MDawg]

KJ, I might believe you, however, you just have way too many interesting things/stories Etc that for some reason or another you can never provide any proof. There's always some, for lack of a better word, Bullshit reason why you can't/won't. It seems as if it would be in your best interest to not mention anything in the first place if you can't provide one iota of proof for whatever reason.

[smurgerburger]

So what's the reason again for not giving Mr. V the proof?

[kewlJ]

that will allow us to change regnis' mind without even seeing your "proof".

Incredibly sad. I have no doubt some of you are working him behind the scenes.

It is a shame regnis a member with impeccable credibility is now in this postion.

I didn't co-ordinate anything with regnis. Not last year, not now. What I did share with him (last year), was the casino involved. I assume for him to verify that both the back-rooming and settlement occurred, he had a source or knows someone at that casino.

I cannot share that information publicly as it is part of the settlement agreement that I don't. But I wouldn't anyway. Even a year later (next week), I still don't want my identifying information revealed. NOTHING has changed in that regard.

But I know exactly what is going to continue to occur here. You trolls/haters will continue to obsess, and probably up your lies and bullshit. That is what you do and that is what this site is. I can only hope you don't attack regnis with lies and such trying to discredit him. He doesn't deserve that. I am sure he can handle it, but he doesn't deserve that. Isn't it time for some of you to grow the fuck up?

[MDawg]

He didn't give anyone any proof. At best, he gave one of his victims who was forced to listen to his lie a version that made more sense.

And exactly, yes, why did he not give V the same story he gave regnis, assuming even that's what happened here.

And as I've said from the beginning,

What happened here, is that something happened to someone - to more than one person, and UNKewlJ took it upon himself to put together a composite story about a series of events.

The latest story from the perennially UNKewl one is actually a composite of things that happened on more than one occasion to more than one person, and includes all the dramatic elements of being back roomed and roughed up, with a broken arm and ambulance ride to boot.

in which case revealing the name of some casino where something happened

What I did share with him (last year), was the casino involved.

doesn't prove anything.

Seriously, UNKewlJ should just keep his mouth shut. The more he opens it the more desperate his lies seem. And the more he contradicts himself and makes his lies more evident.

[smurgerburger]

So I'm guessing you privately told Mr. V a different casino from what you privately told regnis?

And how does this involve disclosing your real name?

Anyway I don't know anything about regnis so I will withhold judgment but I'm guessing he failed to appreciate the extremely low background probability of your story being true when assessing the value of your "proof".

[MDawg]

About the only thing that is certain here is that every time UNKewlJ says he is done, and will not post again, he is lying.

This is my final comments on this....

The only reason he lied was to try to back up the story. He can’t even come up with a twisted version of why else he would have lied daily about all this that makes any sense.

[MisterV]

Anyway I don't know anything about regnis...

He's been an active member here for more than ten years and has over 2600 posts.

He's not a disputatious troll, either: he sort of sits on the sidelines and typically comments only when he has something worth saying.

Again, the guy is a lawyer, or he may be a retired lawyer, I'm not certain which, but it's one or the other.

He said he "confirmed" KJ's story of being backroomed: with his legal background he knows about issues of proof, and he believes it to be true based on what seems to be independent investigation.

That's good enough for me: why can't you accept his word for it?

BTW I like his handle: it is "SINGER" spelled backwards.

[MDawg]

If Regnis wants to clarify what he posted, he will, or already would have. He did not, and I exchanged a couple PMs with him.

Meantime, as far as UNKewlJ's claim that what Regnis verified is the casino where it happened, and that he cannot disclose that casino's name...(1) supposedly, he already did! to regnis, and (2) the word is already out as to what casino that is, according to UNKewlJ's three posts on the subject:

7/5/2023:

There was a news reporter sniffing around a couple weeks ago that contacted me. I have no idea what kind of sources these people might have to get around the system, but just the fact that she contacted me, means she got somewhere (some information).

6/24/2023:

I am pretty sure something about this case will hit the news very shortly, as I have been contacted by email and text by one local TV News station here in Vegas. I didn't respond to either contact. I can't provide the information they are probably seeking. I don't know if they can get their hands on video, but if they do, I am sure this will be mentioned on the local news. At this point I don't even care, even if they name me.

1/14/2024:

In the case of the reporter than contacted me, she was given my name. I told her I didn't want to comment and explained why, but they still ran my name in the story. There was a story at a second station days later that did not include my name. That second story focused more on the casino actions. Both had video of the incident and it was not supplied by me or my attorney. Only other place it could have come from was someone at the casino involved. I find that kind of interesting.

V, if you are any kind of attorney you know that once something is in the public domain, it cannot be enforced as confidential. So that right there contradicts this whole line of "I can't disclose what the casino involved was." - I mean according to UNKewLyingJ, the actual video is already out there, along with the full story of what happened and where.

Bottom line:

You can't get to the truth with a fraud.

[kewlJ]

About the only thing that is certain here is that every time UNKewlJ says he is done, and will not post again, he is lying.

Here is what is certain.

This forum is down to what about a dozen active members. We have even lost Monet and DannyJ, who I used to check out their NHL picks. membership continues to dwindle. And then we have Mdawg trying to drive away me.

Why, because I know and have stated for years what he really is. He can't shut me up like he usually can with people. he doesn't have Wizard here to protect him and suspend or ban anyone that says the truth about Mdawg and his adventure. So he tried to shame me into leaving. Anything to stop those uttering the truth.

If he was really who he said and even parts of his story and claims were true, he could respectfully answer questions and concerns from not just me but everyone else. he would almost welcome the chance to explain whatever might be misunderstood. I have always answered people questions and concerns as best I could without jeopardizing myself. Blackhole comes to mind as well as many here. And I have always done so respectfully, until I am attacked, then I attack back.

But Mdawg can't answer, so he attacks and tries to discredit anyone and everyone who dares express doubt or concern. Not Just me, but a whole list of members from several forums, including some of you here.

Why is that? No answer needed. Everyone knows.

[MDawg]

If you go with the probability that something happened somewhere, and that UNKewlJ is laying a composite of lies on us, the reason he can't get specific is because with any research we would be able to figure out that he made this all up, and that none of it happened to him.

Very well written summary, MDawg.

I will admit that this never smelled quite right to me, and my personal belief at this point is that kewlJ made the whole thing up.

Perhaps it's loosely based upon a real incident, such as a blackjack ban he received where a security guard roughly handled him and accidentally hurt kewlJ's arm a little bit. I don't think there was any incident which was lawsuit-worthy, which is why we got so many changing and bizarre versions of the same story.

In other words, he isn't protecting his anonymity by constantly lying. He's protecting his ass - from being outed as an even bigger liar.

[smurgerburger]

Anyway I don't know anything about regnis...

He's been an active member here for more than ten years and has over 2600 posts.

He's not a disputatious troll, either: he sort of sits on the sidelines and typically comments only when he has something worth saying.

Again, the guy is a lawyer, or he may be a retired lawyer, I'm not certain which, but it's one or the other.

He said he "confirmed" KJ's story of being backroomed: with his legal background he knows about issues of proof, and he believes it to be true based on what seems to be independent investigation.

That's good enough for me: why can't you accept his word for it?

BTW I like his handle: it is "SINGER" spelled backwards.

The background probability is extremely high that KJ is lying for reasons that have been expressed already.

You have always seemed to think this is some kind of "gaslighting" as you once said. It is not. KJ is a compulsive liar and the evidence of that is ample as you have experienced yourself.

[kewlJ]

V, if you are any kind of attorney you know that once something is in the public domain, it cannot be enforced as confidential. So that right there contradicts this whole line of "I can't disclose what the casino involved was." -

I don't know what kind of attorney you are that you can't seem to grasp that it was part of the settlement terms which I agreed to that I make no public mention of the casino, or name people involved, nor make no mention of the amount of settlement. My attorney told me I could be hauled back into court for violating those terms, even at a later time.

I have no love lost for this casino. I am only abiding by what I agreed to. And frankly I have bent that as far as I possible could, hinting as far as I could go, what the casino involved was and basically what the amount was. And it wasn't all that much.

But really none of that matters. It doesn't or shouldn't matter to anyone. It only matters to this Mdawg person because he wants to find even more information that he can use to harm me. THAT is what it is all about with this guy.

[smurgerburger]

And Mdawg is telling you that the nondisclosure requirement is mooted when the matter is in the public record, as you have claimed it is.

I'm assuming you didn't understand him rather than just pretended to not understand him.

[MDawg]

Correct, yes. And in any case, he claims that he did tell regnis the name of the casino!

He also claimed repeatedly that he could not tell us how much he got out of the fictional settlement, and yet - he kept telling us that too!

I want an amount that will cover the settlement amount. 300K will do so. So I have come down from the original 500k, even though it sort of tells what the amount is, which I was not supposed to reveal.