How exactly does Darkoz's Player's Club Cards Team work?

[MisterV]

I understand how a working AP, someone who is MCing would not want the specifics known, but I was just wondering in general how it works.

I guess it is the logistical questions that baffle me.

Say a team uses 100 or 1000 cards: I assume all must be linked to different people, each with a different email and home address.

How does the team get these cards?

Seems unlikely that 100 strangers would allow themselves to go to a casino, show ID, get a card and then hand it over for nothing, and if there is a cost might it not exceed expected profit?

Is VP the game typically played by teams now, or are slots also the target due to lack of favorable VP these days?

I ask as a curious ploppy, not someone who plans to MC in sin city or anywhere else.

[MaxPen]

I understand how a working AP, someone who is MCing would not want the specifics known, but I was just wondering in general how it works.

I guess it is the logistical questions that baffle me.

Say a team uses 100 or 1000 cards: I assume all must be linked to different people, each with a different email and home address.

How does the team get these cards?

Seems unlikely that 100 strangers would allow themselves to go to a casino, show ID, get a card and then hand it over for nothing, and if there is a cost might it not exceed expected profit?

Is VP the game typically played by teams now, or are slots also the target due to lack of favorable VP these days?

I ask as a curious ploppy, not someone who plans to MC in sin city or anywhere else.

Even basic questions like this should not be answered publicly. Although you might just be curious there are numerous others that would do something with any info that is divulged. Your best bet is to ask someone who does what you are interested in privately. If they're smart though they won't answer. But ask enough and you will find a dummy.

[Darkoz]

DarkOz might be adding a 0 to his alleged figures (there is also his, "I make $20,000. a week, but not every week" nonsense) but UNKewLyingJ's jumping on that same $20,000. figure, but for the year (surprise! not much imagination there) is wholly fabricated.

Perfect example of what a lying idiot you are. I shared what my partner and I were doing, on a much smaller "supplemental" scale, long before Dark oz reveal what he and his team were doing. So you can't "steal" someone's $20k figure years before they even said it.

Moreover, one person was talking about $20K a year. The other $20K a week. Hardly the same thing.

You just don't give a fuck any more do you? You have just given up now haven't you Mdawg?

The irony is he claims to make as much as $96,000 in just a few hours at Baccarat using an advantage play consistently for years on just his own card without any heat.

I find his unwillingness to believe advantage play of certain levels is possible belies that he himself exaggerates. It's almost a done deal that people can only imagine what they do is possible. Like the cheating wife who is so certain her husband must be cheating simply because she herself is unfaithful

[Rob.Singer]

"But ask enough and you will find a dummy."

MrV, there's both your answer and your direction: Just send a PM to kew. He will lie of course, because that's what he does. But when did that ever stop you from believing him?

[Darkoz]

I understand how a working AP, someone who is MCing would not want the specifics known, but I was just wondering in general how it works.

I guess it is the logistical questions that baffle me.

Say a team uses 100 or 1000 cards: I assume all must be linked to different people, each with a different email and home address.

How does the team get these cards?

Seems unlikely that 100 strangers would allow themselves to go to a casino, show ID, get a card and then hand it over for nothing, and if there is a cost might it not exceed expected profit?

Is VP the game typically played by teams now, or are slots also the target due to lack of favorable VP these days?

I ask as a curious ploppy, not someone who plans to MC in sin city or anywhere else.

Even basic questions like this should not be answered publicly. Although you might just be curious there are numerous others that would do something with any info that is divulged. Your best bet is to ask someone who does what you are interested in privately. If they're smart though they won't answer. But ask enough and you will find a dummy.

The problem MaxPen is that when an AP is caught the casinos automatically assume the cards are outright stolen.

You have to in some cases actually have the player's reach out to admit they gave their cards willingly.

Also when a card runner is made, that means he is already bee followed and identified as having multiple cards. The casinos don't JUST deactivate offers but they examine card and player history. Ostensibly it's to be certain the offers aren't stolen from the inside (did they come from play or MR. Supervisor uploading on the sly).

I will lay my bottom dollar that 99% of ruined plays with multicarding come from post investigative operations as to how multicarding worked at that particular time and not to casino workers paying any attention to some posts on a right wing leaning insult spewing gambling site.

At any rate their understanding is as you can see inevitable so shouting about secrecy is really pointless.

[MisterV]

"But ask enough and you will find a dummy." MrV, there's both your answer and your direction: Just send a PM to kew. He will lie of course, because that's what he does. But when did that ever stop you from believing him?

Robert, I'd ask him about blackjack because I think he's an expert in that area, but not multi-carding.

But let me ask YOU for your expert opinion on a nettlesome subject: When you take a shit does your nine and a half inch schlong dangle in the drink, or do you flop it over the seat?

Choices, choices...

[MaxPen]

I understand how a working AP, someone who is MCing would not want the specifics known, but I was just wondering in general how it works.

I guess it is the logistical questions that baffle me.

Say a team uses 100 or 1000 cards: I assume all must be linked to different people, each with a different email and home address.

How does the team get these cards?

Seems unlikely that 100 strangers would allow themselves to go to a casino, show ID, get a card and then hand it over for nothing, and if there is a cost might it not exceed expected profit?

Is VP the game typically played by teams now, or are slots also the target due to lack of favorable VP these days?

I ask as a curious ploppy, not someone who plans to MC in sin city or anywhere else.

Even basic questions like this should not be answered publicly. Although you might just be curious there are numerous others that would do something with any info that is divulged. Your best bet is to ask someone who does what you are interested in privately. If they're smart though they won't answer. But ask enough and you will find a dummy.

The problem MaxPen is that when an AP is caught the casinos automatically assume the cards are outright stolen.

You have to in some cases actually have the player's reach out to admit they gave their cards willingly.

Also when a card runner is made, that means he is already bee followed and identified as having multiple cards. The casinos don't JUST deactivate offers but they examine card and player history. Ostensibly it's to be certain the offers aren't stolen from the inside (did they come from play or MR. Supervisor uploading on the sly).

I will lay my bottom dollar that 99% of ruined plays with multicarding come from post investigative operations as to how multicarding worked at that particular time and not to casino workers paying any attention to some posts on a right wing leaning insult spewing gambling site.

At any rate their understanding is as you can see inevitable so shouting about secrecy is really pointless.

Regardless of whether or not posted info on sites is used by casinos or not does not make a difference. There's a lot of people that would kill to earn "$20k per week".

There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of your peers vote you Biggest Moron.....RIP

Your lack of understanding is incomprehensible. Your level of comprehension fully explains why you have had the run ins with security and legal problems that you have had.

[Darkoz]

Even basic questions like this should not be answered publicly. Although you might just be curious there are numerous others that would do something with any info that is divulged. Your best bet is to ask someone who does what you are interested in privately. If they're smart though they won't answer. But ask enough and you will find a dummy.

The problem MaxPen is that when an AP is caught the casinos automatically assume the cards are outright stolen.

You have to in some cases actually have the player's reach out to admit they gave their cards willingly.

Also when a card runner is made, that means he is already bee followed and identified as having multiple cards. The casinos don't JUST deactivate offers but they examine card and player history. Ostensibly it's to be certain the offers aren't stolen from the inside (did they come from play or MR. Supervisor uploading on the sly).

I will lay my bottom dollar that 99% of ruined plays with multicarding come from post investigative operations as to how multicarding worked at that particular time and not to casino workers paying any attention to some posts on a right wing leaning insult spewing gambling site.

At any rate their understanding is as you can see inevitable so shouting about secrecy is really pointless.

Regardless of whether or not posted info on sites is used by casinos or not does not make a difference. There's a lot of people that would kill to earn "$20k per week".

There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of your peers vote you Biggest Moron.....RIP

Your lack of understanding is incomprehensible. Your level of comprehension fully explains why you have had the run ins with security and legal problems that you have had.

Legal problems?

In 12 years I have been charged once with trespassing and beat it.

I would hardly call that "legal problems".

You are just frustrated because you fail to understand the obvious. That advantage plays don't last forever no matter what.

If you are half the AP I am then you would be able to adjust under any circumstances

It's 12 years running and I am still in operations with multiple team members. Figure it out!

[MaxPen]

The problem MaxPen is that when an AP is caught the casinos automatically assume the cards are outright stolen.

You have to in some cases actually have the player's reach out to admit they gave their cards willingly.

Also when a card runner is made, that means he is already bee followed and identified as having multiple cards. The casinos don't JUST deactivate offers but they examine card and player history. Ostensibly it's to be certain the offers aren't stolen from the inside (did they come from play or MR. Supervisor uploading on the sly).

I will lay my bottom dollar that 99% of ruined plays with multicarding come from post investigative operations as to how multicarding worked at that particular time and not to casino workers paying any attention to some posts on a right wing leaning insult spewing gambling site.

At any rate their understanding is as you can see inevitable so shouting about secrecy is really pointless.

Regardless of whether or not posted info on sites is used by casinos or not does not make a difference. There's a lot of people that would kill to earn "$20k per week".

There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of your peers vote you Biggest Moron.....RIP

Your lack of understanding is incomprehensible. Your level of comprehension fully explains why you have had the run ins with security and legal problems that you have had.

Legal problems?

In 12 years I have been charged once with trespassing and beat it.

I would hardly call that "legal problems".

You are just frustrated because you fail to understand the obvious. That advantage plays don't last forever no matter what.

If you are half the AP I am then you would be able to adjust under any circumstances

It's 12 years running and I am still in operations with multiple team members. Figure it out!

12 years in the game and still not able to retire. 'Nuff said...RIP

If I was at your level I would still be riding buses around to casinos sweating like a pig in crappy latex masks....LOL...no thanks

[Darkoz]

Regardless of whether or not posted info on sites is used by casinos or not does not make a difference. There's a lot of people that would kill to earn "$20k per week".

There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of your peers vote you Biggest Moron.....RIP

Your lack of understanding is incomprehensible. Your level of comprehension fully explains why you have had the run ins with security and legal problems that you have had.

Legal problems?

In 12 years I have been charged once with trespassing and beat it.

I would hardly call that "legal problems".

You are just frustrated because you fail to understand the obvious. That advantage plays don't last forever no matter what.

If you are half the AP I am then you would be able to adjust under any circumstances

It's 12 years running and I am still in operations with multiple team members. Figure it out!

12 years in the game and still not able to retire. 'Nuff said...RIP

If I was at your level I would still be riding buses around to casinos sweating like a pig in crappy latex masks....LOL...no thanks

This has to be the most ridiculous statement made by a right wing person ever.

By that thinking there would be no working rich people. Steven Spielberg wouldn't make movies now that he's wealthy enough to retire. Trump wouldn't run a business or run for president because he has plenty to retire on. Etc etc.

You are so desperately grasping at straws it so sad.

I haven't done much traveling as I just send in my crew. Unlike you I figured out how to act retired while still raking in dough.

Try going big and maybe you will get it.

[Darkoz]

Regardless of whether or not posted info on sites is used by casinos or not does not make a difference. There's a lot of people that would kill to earn "$20k per week".

There's a reason why the overwhelming majority of your peers vote you Biggest Moron.....RIP

Your lack of understanding is incomprehensible. Your level of comprehension fully explains why you have had the run ins with security and legal problems that you have had.

Legal problems?

In 12 years I have been charged once with trespassing and beat it.

I would hardly call that "legal problems".

You are just frustrated because you fail to understand the obvious. That advantage plays don't last forever no matter what.

If you are half the AP I am then you would be able to adjust under any circumstances

It's 12 years running and I am still in operations with multiple team members. Figure it out!

12 years in the game and still not able to retire. 'Nuff said...RIP

If I was at your level I would still be riding buses around to casinos sweating like a pig in crappy latex masks....LOL...no thanks

This has to be the most ridiculous statement made by a right wing person ever.

By that thinking there would be no working rich people. Steven Spielberg wouldn't make movies now that he's wealthy enough to retire. Trump wouldn't run a business or run for president because he has plenty to retire on. Etc etc.

You are so desperately grasping at straws it so sad.

I haven't done much traveling as I just send in my crew. Unlike you I figured out how to act retired while still raking in dough.

Try going big and maybe you will get it.

[MDawg]

What he means, and he's right, is that you remain six weeks to a shopping cart, D.Oz. At best you remain six weeks to having to sell off pinball machines just like after your first rodeo. You haven't learned anything, is what MPen is saying. Would you agree? What's different this time around as far as planning for a possible paradigm shift / complete loss of income?

Similar thing a lot of people have pointed out about jbjb / ibeatyouraces, that after all this time he doesn't even have enough bankroll to do anything on his own.

As far as UNKewlJ, he's just sore because even the forum owner here came out and stated that FraudJ is a liar, and he was just uncloaked with having lied for six months straight to every forum on which he participates. Nothing new for him, he lies all the time, but this time he even admitted it. And you know when he's caught in yet another lie when he makes with the long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again.

[Darkoz]

What he means, and he's right, is that you remain six weeks to a shopping cart, D.Oz. At best you remain six weeks to having to sell off pinball machines just like after your first rodeo. You haven't learned anything, is what MPen is saying. Would you agree? What's different this time around as far as planning for a possible paradigm shift / complete loss of income?

Similar thing a lot of people have pointed out about jbjb / ibeatyouraces, that after all this time he doesn't even have enough bankroll to do anything on his own.

As far as UNKewlJ, he's just sore because even the forum owner here came out and stated that FraudJ is a liar, and he was just uncloaked with having lied for six months straight to every forum on which he participates. Nothing new for him, he lies all the time, but this time he even admitted it. And you know when he's caught in yet another lie when he makes with the long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again.

Six weeks from a shopping cart? Where did you learn to assume with such stupidity.

During Covid shutdown I went six months with no income and still paid my rent and was comfortable enough to invest in the stock market.

You can't even get your insults correct. Even with a bad investment I still pay half a dozen employees income enough for each of them to live on just themselves much less what I clear myself.

This site is just apparently full of a bunch of jealous wannabees who fantasize they beat Baccarat and roulette

[MDawg]

Doz you KNOW you're in no better shape than before when your idea of savings is penny stocks (that went to nada) and pinball machines....

If you don't want to learn from your past you might be doomed to repeat it.

And if you think I'm insulting you versus trying to suggest productively that you change your ways, well, that's part of the stubbornness that led you to homelessness in the first place, no?

[Darkoz]

Doz you KNOW you're in no better shape than before when your idea of savings is penny stocks (that went to nada) and pinball machines....

If you don't want to learn from your past you might be doomed to repeat it.

And if you think I'm insulting you versus trying to suggest productively that you change your ways, well, that's part of the stubbornness that led you to homelessness in the first place, no?

You would think I was being accused of spending thousands of dollars on paper clips to hold my cash and other irresponsible spending.

[MDawg]

Actually the more luxury items I buy tend to have a resale value of the same or higher than what I bought them for, because I try never to pay retail. If I were to sell them.

Probably, if I were to guess, your best investment over the years has been comic books. Which whatever goes up is fine.

But I doubt pinball machines go up in value or are that liquid?

[Treeshade]

I'm not sure what the questions are.

The description of how I got started is a bit off but mostly accurate. It was getting off the NYC train not a bus. And I didn't get back on the train before realizing my card was in the machines it was still walking to the train.

That started a long journey to where I am today. In that post it makes it look like after that starting incident I was already putting together a major team.

I have posted those details at WOV. The long journey is written in a book about my exploits but I haven't pursued publishing it yet. Some day.

Did you or did you not date a black transgender women from NYC ?

Did you in fact have a multiple year relationship with a black transgender women from NYC ? I’m Not sure if you think that is right leaning question or not. Political opinion should not matter

[Darkoz]

I'm not sure what the questions are.

The description of how I got started is a bit off but mostly accurate. It was getting off the NYC train not a bus. And I didn't get back on the train before realizing my card was in the machines it was still walking to the train.

That started a long journey to where I am today. In that post it makes it look like after that starting incident I was already putting together a major team.

I have posted those details at WOV. The long journey is written in a book about my exploits but I haven't pursued publishing it yet. Some day.

Did you or did you not date a black transgender women from NYC ?

Did you in fact have a multiple year relationship with a black transgender women from NYC ? I’m Not sure if you think that is right leaning question or not. Political opinion should not matter

Why? You starting to dress up and want to.suck my cock?

[Treeshade]

Did you or did you not date a black transgender women from NYC ?

Did you in fact have a multiple year relationship with a black transgender women from NYC ? I’m Not sure if you think that is right leaning question or not. Political opinion should not matter

Why? You starting to dress up and want to.suck my cock?

Lol

No I’m doing a survey on how many left leaning APs are actually gay for my book of course

[Darkoz]

Did you in fact have a multiple year relationship with a black transgender women from NYC ? I’m Not sure if you think that is right leaning question or not. Political opinion should not matter

Why? You starting to dress up and want to.suck my cock?

Lol

No I’m doing a survey on how many left leaning APs are actually gay for my book of course

Well do your research in a thread about homosexuality and not multicarding.

BTW I too am writing a book about my theory that right wing politicians share toilet paper in public stalls so they can pay for gay sex