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Thread: I'm changing my strategy for playing craps.

  1. #61
    Originally Posted by dave_guy View Post
    Regnis
    I never get bored. I am happy to make a couple of hundred bucks every time I play. I keep busy tracking the fire bet losses, the actual decisions and monitoring my play. I always know what my next bet is going to be whether I win it or lose it. I watch guys that think they know how to play getting crushed and arguing with each other. It strengthens my ability to stay cool and not to be like them. I do agree there are other ways to make money but with more risk and juice going to the casino. I also have a play where I do not miss the big one (when it happens)......
    Wish I had a little of your temperment. At the track, I can sit all day waiting for my spot. But in craps, I crave the action and excitement--and I have made 6 figure licks with a loss limit of $2,500. Does not seem to happen anymore particularly since I was barred from shooting.

  2. #62
    I would be pleased to be barred from shooting and to know that I was that good...Hopefully another 6 figure lick is near for you.

  3. #63
    Gosh... I got into trouble at three casinos and I wasn't that good. It was just the appearance of being good that was enough to trigger all kinds of problems. I think too many casinos today are paranoid about some players actually being dice mechanics when in fact all they did was get lucky.

    edited to add: Remember this discussion? http://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showth...agio+back+wall
    Last edited by Alan Mendelson; 06-01-2013 at 11:31 AM.

  4. #64
    That was a good read..thank you

  5. #65
    Originally Posted by dave_guy View Post
    I would be pleased to be barred from shooting and to know that I was that good...Hopefully another 6 figure lick is near for you.
    Similar to what Alan said, my big rolls were mostly in Las Vegas, yet it was only here, in Chicago, that I was barred. That has now been lifted but the time away and my inability to find the time now have ruined my "stroke". I have no confidence in my throw now and would need quite a bit of practice again to regain it. One place rather than barring me put in a time limit within which you must set and throw, but after playing dice all my life I could set in a second or less and still throw. So they then had to bar me. Other players who were still random shooters but love to play with the dice forever before throwing were pissed and they had to eliminate the time limit. Just paranoia if you ask me.

    Plenty of losers of $2,500-$5,000 between those big 6 figure rolls---but had many more profitable years in craps than VP.

  6. #66
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    Plenty of losers of $2,500-$5,000 between those big 6 figure rolls---but had many more profitable years in craps than VP.
    Only three times in my life I had a day/session when I won more than $5,000 at craps.

    This might shock some of the APs here... but over the last five years if I only played VP and not craps, I would have a profit, even with the negative expectation VP games I played such as 9/5 Double Double Bonus and 8/5 Aces and Faces and 8/5 Bonus. It's craps which keeps my overall tally in the red.

  7. #67
    When I started this particular thread I wrote:

    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I have an even more conservative plan: betting just the passline and the Fire Bet. I want the fire bet because if the shooter is on fire and has the monster roll of a lifetime, I want to be there to collect the $10,000 on a risky, high edge $10 Fire Bet.
    Well, that's what I used for some (not all, but some) of my playing this past Thursday at Caesars Palace and wow did it work!!

    The truth is, I had lost close to my limit for the trip but I wanted to stay at the craps table because I enjoy the game. And so I used my very conservative, pass bet only plus fire bet strategy. It was a $25 table so it was $25 on the passline plus a $5 horn high ace-deuce bet to "insure" the passline bet on the come-out roll (a hedge bet), plus a $10 fire bet (the maximum allowed).

    I tried this on six players in the early morning session. I hit a jackpot on one of them who made five different passes and my $10 fire bet returned $2500 plus I made some money on the $25 passline wins.

    Later in the afternoon I tried my very conservative approach again at the same table... and another player also hit five different passes for another $2500 fire bet payoff.

    It was the first time ever that I had two five-point fire payoffs not only in one day but in one trip.

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