Math vs fantasy

[MisterV]

Yea I know death isn’t a zero sum game, but it’s a damn shame Alan died and EB lived.

And I’m sure his wife feels the same, a couple thousand in death benefits might turn her life around.

What a true piece of human garbage. Sadly you guys have all given him what he wants and needs….attention.

Oh, you've just seen the tip of the ice berg; just wait til he starts posting pictures of meals he cooks daily and of course pics of the myriad cats he is forced to turn to as a surrogate for human companionship.

[MaxPen]

How much $ is this method worth per hour when put to use?

Per hour, I have no idea. I have a goal per session and I usually make that goal on the first bet and I stop. I'm not a gambler I hate playing and playing I treat this like a business. Get in and get it done and get out..

Ok then,, just state the units per hour earned.

[PositiveVariance]

Unless you have INFORMATION, that is not supposed to be known,.

That's what I do, I constantly gather information by using the previous outcomes even though they have no actual effect on future outcomes. No physical effect. But if you study it for a long enough time you get clues that let you make educated guesses as to what might be happening in the extreme short term over the next spin or two. There's only certain number of things 36 numbers can do, and I study them 12 numbers at a time in blocks of 12. So that breaks it down even more.

There is one big problem with this. As previously mentioned, this would be similar to someone who is clocking a Roulette wheel to gain an advantage. This is obviously possible, but not what you are doing. Even if you had found an error in the RNG, still possible but not what you are claiming.

You have both physical (manual wheel) as well as electronic (RNG) for producing "random" numbers.

You have already said you do this across MULTIPLE devices. A process that presents an outcome by use of a RNG can not also be used on a MANUAL roulette wheel that has numbers that match up to a specific wheel slot! But I'm sure Spike will tell us he has a different system that evaluates each device independently, that produces random numbers.

[PositiveVariance]

Why is Smelly Belly always the first person that defends the impossible and Outrageous claims by other members? Does anyone actually listen to this guy, or does everyone have him on ignore? Him and William Yung are in the same category.

The secondhand embarrassment is unreal.

Imagine getting offended and territorial over "Gambling Forums" lol

[Spike]

Yea I know death isn’t a zero sum game, but it’s a damn shame Alan died and EB lived.

And I’m sure his wife feels the same, a couple thousand in death benefits might turn her life around.

What a true piece of human garbage. Sadly you guys have all given him what he wants and needs….attention.

Fuck you, Boz. You were a waste of space on wov and I see it holds true here. Do you even know how not to be a jackass? Thank God you were nuked from there.

[Spike]

Yea I know death isn’t a zero sum game, but it’s a damn shame Alan died and EB lived.

And I’m sure his wife feels the same, a couple thousand in death benefits might turn her life around.

What a true piece of human garbage. Sadly you guys have all given him what he wants and needs….attention.

Oh, you've just seen the tip of the ice berg; just wait til he starts posting pictures of meals he cooks daily and of course pics of the myriad cats he is forced to turn to as a surrogate for human companionship.

This is true, like many others on wov I post in the food thread, so what. I also happen to like cats, oh no. The entire country of Japan practically worships cats. Istanbul Turkey has hundreds of thousands of cats roaming the city and people feed them and they are pets. But in your life liking cats is some kind of a strange thing. So sad.

[MaxPen]

Unless you have INFORMATION, that is not supposed to be known,.

That's what I do, I constantly gather information by using the previous outcomes even though they have no actual effect on future outcomes. No physical effect. But if you study it for a long enough time you get clues that let you make educated guesses as to what might be happening in the extreme short term over the next spin or two. There's only certain number of things 36 numbers can do, and I study them 12 numbers at a time in blocks of 12. So that breaks it down even more.

There is one big problem with this. As previously mentioned, this would be similar to someone who is clocking a Roulette wheel to gain an advantage. This is obviously possible, but not what you are doing. Even if you had found an error in the RNG, still possible but not what you are claiming.

You have both physical (manual wheel) as well as electronic (RNG) for producing "random" numbers.

You have already said you do this across MULTIPLE devices. A process that presents an outcome by use of a RNG can not also be used on a MANUAL roulette wheel that has numbers that match up to a specific wheel slot! But I'm sure Spike will tell us he has a different system that evaluates each device independently, that produces random numbers.

I'm afraid this is looking like it transcends the ability of mere mortals to comprehend.

At least now I know what I was missing out on over at WoV. Now if we can just get a daily menu thread over here and I can leave this site too...... Let's Go

[Spike]

How much $ is this method worth per hour when put to use?

Per hour, I have no idea. I have a goal per session and I usually make that goal on the first bet and I stop. I'm not a gambler I hate playing and playing I treat this like a business. Get in and get it done and get out..

Ok then,, just state the units per hour earned.

I'm not obfuscating, I honestly have no idea. I don't ever look at it that way. I play one or maybe two sessions a day that usually take me just a few minutes. If I'm wrong in my first bet obviously I keep playing until I win put that doesn't take very long either. So I have no idea how to answer the question. I would have to do it on a per month basis and I'm not going to do that obviously. It's none of anybody's business. Let's put it this way, I pay all my bills every month with my casino wins. But I do not have a mortgage or a car payment, so use your imagination. And please don't ask me why I'm not a millionaire, it's a stupid question that only stupid people ask because they do not understand how the real world operates.

[Don Perignom]

This is true, like many others on wov I post in the food thread, so what. I also happen to like cats, oh no.

Have you done a cat food thread? I'd be up for that.

[Spike]

You have already said you do this across MULTIPLE devices.

No I did not, as usual you misunderstood what I said. I use roulette software but it lets me import actual real spins from a real actual wheel in Germany and that's what I use. It's well known that I never use RNG outcomes because they are totally unreliable, I've been saying this for 15 or 16 years. The results may look the same to you but to me and real roulette players they are not the same. Anybody who plays roulette on a regular basis will tell you they cannot play the RNG machines because it's just different. They aren't real random they are pseudo random. If you go back and find the post where I mentioned roulette software you will see that I said I import spins from Germany.

[Spike]

That's what I do, I constantly gather information by using the previous outcomes even though they have no actual effect on future outcomes. No physical effect. But if you study it for a long enough time you get clues that let you make educated guesses as to what might be happening in the extreme short term over the next spin or two. There's only certain number of things 36 numbers can do, and I study them 12 numbers at a time in blocks of 12. So that breaks it down even more.

There is one big problem with this. As previously mentioned, this would be similar to someone who is clocking a Roulette wheel to gain an advantage. This is obviously possible, but not what you are doing. Even if you had found an error in the RNG, still possible but not what you are claiming.

You have both physical (manual wheel) as well as electronic (RNG) for producing "random" numbers.

You have already said you do this across MULTIPLE devices. A process that presents an outcome by use of a RNG can not also be used on a MANUAL roulette wheel that has numbers that match up to a specific wheel slot! But I'm sure Spike will tell us he has a different system that evaluates each device independently, that produces random numbers.

I'm afraid this is looking like it transcends the ability of mere mortals to comprehend.

No it doesn't. You're just realizing like most people like you realize that I'm not going to come to your house and drive you to the casino and hold your hand and take you step by step by step by step over everything I do again and again until you get it. Because that's what you want me to do and because I'm not going to do that you're not going to have anything to do with it. You're a gambler and every gambler I've ever known is extremely lazy. That's why they gamble they want something for nothing. That's what you want from me, something for nothing. Good luck with that.

[tableplay]

This analysis is based on Bayes Theorem first posed by Mathematician Thomas Bayes in 1763.

Actually Bayes was a clergyman (Reverend). Mathematics was a side pursuit. That gives you,me, and everyone else an idea of how smart he was. With regard to Bayes' Theorem - finding the event(s) to condition on, to reduce the probability space, is the hard part, as you may already know.

[Spike]

This is true, like many others on wov I post in the food thread, so what. I also happen to like cats, oh no.

Have you done a cat food thread? I'd be up for that.

I'm a cat food expert I have 14 cats right now and they eat better than I do.

[unowme]

Unless you have INFORMATION, that is not supposed to be known,.

That's what I do, I constantly gather information by using the previous outcomes even though they have no actual effect on future outcomes. No physical effect. But if you study it for a long enough time you get clues that let you make educated guesses as to what might be happening in the extreme short term over the next spin or two. There's only certain number of things 36 numbers can do, and I study them 12 numbers at a time in blocks of 12. So that breaks it down even more.

This sounds more like misinterpreted human pattern recognition than a method that can potentially predict outcomes when the game is really not truly random. But Good Luck with that!

[coach belly]

defends the impossible and Outrageous claims by other members?

Your bias has you all twisted again.

I haven't defended his claims, I've refuted your nonsense.

[accountinquestion]

This guy is a pretty great troll for one thread. I just hope that no one gives him his much needed validation outside this thread.

[Don Perignom]

I'm a cat food expert I have 14 cats right now and they eat better than I do.

I look forward to it! You can put it here on the Las Vegas board. As you can see from the other threads, the topics don't have to be precisely Vegas-related.

[The Boz]

Yea I know death isn’t a zero sum game, but it’s a damn shame Alan died and EB lived.

And I’m sure his wife feels the same, a couple thousand in death benefits might turn her life around.

What a true piece of human garbage. Sadly you guys have all given him what he wants and needs….attention.

Fuck you, Boz. You were a waste of space on wov and I see it holds true here. Do you even know how not to be a jackass? Thank God you were nuked from there.

And you aren’t? And I don’t think God anything to do with it. Face it, those cats would be better in a shelter than with you. You are pure trash that gets off fucking with others. Obviously you don’t get off in the true sense because that limp dick of your hasn’t moved in 25 years.

If I’m fortunate enough to outlive you, trust me I’ll smile the day it’s figured out you died. Of course we will never know because no one will care, we will just figure you did because you’ll stop posting your bullshit.

So right back at you little man, go fuck yourself loser.

[PositiveVariance]

You have already said you do this across MULTIPLE devices.

It's well known that I never use RNG outcomes because they are totally unreliable

An RNG having "unreliable" outcomes, imagine that!! LOL

[tableplay]

Bayesian inference might allow APs to adjust their play based on observation of outcomes by uncovering a lack of true randomness in the game itself or by overcoming a lack of knowledge on the inner workings of the game.
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I have always said the reason I can do this is because there's only 37 or 38 pockets on a wheel which isn't very many. If there were 60 or 90 I couldn't do this. I've gone to random.org and gotten random columns of numbers that are 60 or 70 or 80 numbers long and I can't do what I can do with the 36 numbers in roulette.

One method would be to make a histogram of the 38 pockets. If the frequency of occurrence of certain pockets are much higher than the rest and those frequently occurring pockets are adjacent to one another on the wheel, then you have identified a biased wheel and can bet that cluster of adjacent pockets. I have no idea if that is the method you use and am merely identifying one of the methods people use to make money on roulette. Clocking the decay rate of the ball due to friction is another, but most people need a computer for that.