Aw man, I REALLY could use a Team like Darkoz has...

[accountinquestion]

Let's just remember that proving you sometimes win is not the same as proving you win in the longterm.

That is all.

[kewlJ]

BTW other evidence I’ve posted include images of massive quantities of promo chips and loss rebate slips.

Posting about both loss rebates and promo chips completely exposes your little make believe fantasy story.

Loss rebates are given to players that lose. And to take advantage of a loss rebate (as a +EV advantage play), a player has to lose. Mdawg rarely posts about any losing sessions. I have no doubt he has many losing sessions and thus could get and play loss rebates, but it just is NOt what he posts and shares.

Promo chips are given to losing players. NOT players that have won millions over 5 years. You know what the absolute very first counter measure taken against a winning player is? Boneses, free play, promo chips are stopped. Before any backoffs, trespass, bet limits, the freebies are stopped. This is why real long-term winning players, especially table game players, play unrated.

Mdawg continuing to claim that he receives them is proof that he is losing and leaving out all the losing when he tells his little story. Basically, no different than any other degenerate gambler who loses and claims he is winning or "about even".

The problem with Mdawgs "story" has always been that he thinks the people on these forums, real APs and other real players don't know how the casino industry works.

[MDawg]

Let's just remember that proving you sometimes win is not the same as proving you win in the longterm.

That is all.

Well, the win loss statements I provided were so heavily in the + that even if you go by what some of these guys (who don't even play rated, and definitely not at a private table where the chances that the tally will be off is about 0 - because you are the only player and they just count the rack before and after your session) claim, that "it is possible to fool the pit bosses by rat holing a chip here and there," still they are evidence of a year end win for each year that I played. At the time that I provided those win loss statements publicly I made a wager that if anyone could find a casino anywhere in Vegas where I played that was not reported, I would pay him hundreds of thousands of dollars. Since then I have provided those win losses and checks to the Wizard in private because too many oddballs were going to try to use the win numbers to figure out who I was.

Plus anyway, how would rat holing a chip create a larger win? It would actually create a smaller win report.

Keep in mind that these win loss statements were live video of me logged into my player account navigating around the pages and then landing on the win loss web pages.

And then, promo chips and loss rebate slips demonstrated that I am doing what I claim to be doing.

Huge checks marked "verified pit winnings" are evidence of wins.

Yes, true, every bit of evidence anyone could provide might also have an alternate explanation, but versus providing no evidence at all....


Don't forget too that in the DarkOz Challenge I played and won, all witnessed by the Wizard, and during that session I played the same way I had been playing any other day during that particular trip.

[kewlJ]

Well, the win loss statements I provided were so heavily in the +

The win loss statements that you provided are about as meaningful as pictures of Rob in a Newell RV at the dealership. Proves absolutely nothing!

If you wanted to really prove something......a real challenge and not some challenge weighed heavily in your favor, it would involve someone monitoring your play for a month. And then compare real results to ANY months results you have posted over the 5 years. Logistics would have to be worked out, but that is the real challenge that would prove you are a long-term winning player. And a number of people on both the forums (here and WoV) would take that challenge.

[MDawg]

As far as FraudJ,

versus providing no evidence at all...

and getting caught lying again and again!

[kewlJ]

Now continue on with your attacking and trying to discredit anyone that does know how things really work and challenges your bullshit story.

When this is all said and done, some day I would like a simple answer to this question: What was this all about? A wealthy guy (to what degree is unknown) who made up such a story that defies the way the casinos and casino industries work, and spent 5 years on this story....for what?

[MDawg]

#1 with this guy is how you can almost SEE & FEEL the puny little twit jumping up and down, screaming like a toddler who just got his baba taken away by a big bad bully. Bonus #2? He posts long-winded, rambling drama-laced "I NEED TO set the record straight or I'll go OUT OF MY MIND!" paragraphs that never seem to satisfy, as he then repeats the same things over and over again.

If I have to be honest here, at this point MDawg actually has way more credibility than you. He's actually met up with the wizard, played Baccarat at a medium level, and won.

[kewlJ]

versus providing no evidence at all...

This is the big downfall of your whole story. Real players do not need to prove what they claim. What they claim works mathematically, that is doesn't defy the math. Nor does it defy the way the industry works, like patting a long-term winning player on the back and showering them with gifts.

It is like I always said, "it doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". Every real player, advantage player or just recreational player knows what you claim is not the way it works. You aren't fooling 90% of the people who know how things work. You are only fooling the 10% who doesn't know and is gullible.

And lets compare that to myself. While people give me shit because they have decided they don't like me, every real player on this forum knows deep down what I claim is is true. Somebody (either Smurgersberger or accountinquestion) has posted several times that what really bothered them is that they believed me for so long and then saw me lie about the lawsuit.

They beleived me for so long because everything I shared is exactly the way the math works and the way the casinos and casino industry works. Nothing defied anything. And that is because everything I have shared over the years was real and true and not some made up story that defies everything like Mdawg posts. That is why they beleived me in the first place. because they figured out and knew it was true.

So when I lied about the lawsuit (not the backrooming, but the lawsuit), to protect myself, it hurt them deeply. Well guess what? AP's sometimes HAVE to lie and change details to protect themselves. It can be as mild as delaying telling a incident, to all out lying to protect themselves from certain information getting out. Anyone that doesn't understand that doesn't understand what advantage play at the level of playing for a living is about.

Now most APs just dont bother with forums, so they avoid this. And most that are on forums, don't share all that much about what they currently do. If they share something, it will be in the context of "years ago, there was this play..." The few of us that do share some of our experiences in almost real time, will occasionally get into a situation (often of our own doing) where we have to back track and lie to protect ourselves. Again, anyone who doesn't understand that, doesn't understand what it is to be an AP, playing for a living, especially playing table games.

[coach belly]

a real challenge would involve someone monitoring your play for a month. And a number of people on both the forums (here and WoV) would take that challenge.

That's absurd. Name them.

[MDawg]

Since vowing

I am done wasting time on you.

that he will no longer post to MDawg or about MDawg, he has done nothing but post to/about MDawg!

KJ is strange, pathetic, and downright boring. Mdawg has definitely taken up residency in KJs head. He was up all night writing about Mdawg and at it again this morning. Man crush?

It's the same old boring crap. Dog barking at a glass of water. He really shouldn't try to be a forum bounty hunter. Dying ain't much of a living.

One would think KJ would be more worried about his Las Vegas haters closing him on him and a career that is toast.

Big Ole El Cortez guy holding KJ by his feet over his patio. Much more interesting.

His roommates must avoid him like the plague.

You’re right, the story isn’t about Mdawg (or the wizard for that matter), it’s about YOU, always about someone once upon a time wronged you for something petty as fuck you’re seemingly incapable of moving past, it’s ALWAYS been primarily about you.


Kew is simply incapable of letting anything, however minor, go.

[coach belly]

The problem with Mdawgs "story" has always been that he thinks the people on these forums, real APs and other real players don't know how the casino industry works.

This guy seems to know how the casino industry works, and his experience contradicts your conjecture.

Unless the casinos believe that you are doing something nefarious they will continue to do whatever it takes to continue to get you to play at their place. At the highest levels they understand the math and past performance has no bearing on future performance. They probably have scrutinized the bettor and not found anything suspicious. Let them keep playing and eventually the math will kick in.

[MDawg]

It is about you lying constantly !!!!

This whole math thing. Let me tell you something, Kewl. To the sharper people on here it becomes increasingly apparently that you based your whole facade around being believable. Where the math "works". When you're in a really bad spot you fall back on the "why don't you believe me because the math works". It is sad. I'm not sure what drives you to continue with this charade.

Anyone thinking I am bullying this dude REMEMBER he just threatened to dox someone. In addition, even though he calls people "sand n" when it suits him - he threatened to call the local news station to put pressure on Druff.

Kewl, the improbability of what all you have claimed is 0. Absolutely 0. This is why we get annoyed with you. Go find some other forum to give everyone gambling advice. JFC

[kewlJ]

Since vowing that he will no longer post to MDawg or about MDawg, he has done nothing but post to/about MDawg!

Yeah and several weeks ago Mdawg wrote something to the effect that he was done gambling and posting this ridiculous story. he said he had other bigger financial opportunities that would take up his time coming up. And now he is back continuing to pump this stupid and ridiculous story.

As long as you continue to do so, I will be there to remind people that your claims defy both the math and the way the casino industry works.

Loss rebates and promo chips for a player that has won millions OVER years. ---get the fuck out of here dude.

Being a long-term winning player is an art. It is something players have to work at and fight with the casinos every step of the way. We have to take it....no one gives it to us.

I am not just going to sit here and let you claim this bullshit. It is disrespectful to not only myself, but every other AP and real winning player on this forum (even those that have decided they don't like me) that works hard at being a winning player.

[MDawg]

I don't want to hear some heroic noble BS about how nobody's going to run me off BS. I'm not an idiot, that's not what this is about.

If I had to ask myself and wonder why someone would stay and keep taking a pounding while taking into account all the bad things they claim have happened to them....

I would have to guess that it's all BS, therefore nothing bad has ever happened to them, and therefore there's no real reason to leave/ stop.

How many times does he need to suffer thru "It just isn't fair that MDawg gets to claim he wins all the time with comps, gifts and special treatment, and he gets support & cover from Benedict Shack and other Richard Potatoes from the gaming forums' group of administrators!" "Can't you people see how much this HURTS me when I can't do anything about it?"

Yes....kew IS the architect of his own suffering. While other disbelievers aren't affected one bit by what MDawg does or says, kew let's it get so far under his skin that it's beginning to spell I AM A FOOL all over his wimpy body

How about some truth about his obsession for a refreshing change. Kew is so extraordinarily jealous of the guy because he knows he has wealth far beyond anything kew will ever see. He also despises him for being normal and not being afflicted with that short circuit in his brain. Covering up this ball of envy with rambling posts of "I'm an educator on LV gambling operation, and I say THAT'S NOT HOW THIS CITY WORKS!"

[kewlJ]

The problem with Mdawgs "story" has always been that he thinks the people on these forums, real APs and other real players don't know how the casino industry works.

This guy seems to know how the casino industry works, and his experience contradicts your conjecture.

Unless the casinos believe that you are doing something nefarious they will continue to do whatever it takes to continue to get you to play at their place. At the highest levels they understand the math and past performance has no bearing on future performance. They probably have scrutinized the bettor and not found anything suspicious. Let them keep playing and eventually the math will kick in.

You are conflating short term vs long term, coach belly. Drich was not talking about a player that has stayed at casinos and played over 50% of the days over the last 5 years and WON millions.

Similarly,, Eliot once talked about a case (in Asian) that he was called in where the player was a head after 3 years. That was a player that made a handful of trips a year, for a couple days at a time. So several years was 40-50 days play. That is NOT longterm. the math hadn't kicked in for such an amount of play. THAT is what the casino was trying to determine, which is why they called in Eliot and other gambling math experts.

Mdawgs claims are now 5 years and running. And unlike the guy that played a handful of trips a year, Mdawg's claims have him spending 50% or more days/nights in Vegas over those 5 years. That is 1000+ days worth of play. What he is claiming can't be just variance or good luck. So no the casinos would not tolerate this bullshit waiting for his luck to turn. They would have cut him off part way through that first 7 month trip where he initially claimed to have won half a million while living in casinos for 7 straight months. (before later changing that claim to "about even")

the story is just bullshit and people like you, where you honestly don't know, or are pretending you don't know is bullshit as well. THAT is what you have always done coach belling. You defended Singer for a decade and defended 18 y.o. in a row as well. You are either a liar or stupid as hell. I am guessing a liar.

[MDawg]

In the end, everyone got it.

You just lie a lot KewlJ, sorry, to try to make your point.

In my opinion, you are just talking to yourself and have accomplished nothing other than proving that you are OBSESSED with mDawg.

[accountinquestion]

It is about you lying constantly !!!!

This whole math thing. Let me tell you something, Kewl. To the sharper people on here it becomes increasingly apparently that you based your whole facade around being believable. Where the math "works". When you're in a really bad spot you fall back on the "why don't you believe me because the math works". It is sad. I'm not sure what drives you to continue with this charade.

Anyone thinking I am bullying this dude REMEMBER he just threatened to dox someone. In addition, even though he calls people "sand n" when it suits him - he threatened to call the local news station to put pressure on Druff.

Kewl, the improbability of what all you have claimed is 0. Absolutely 0. This is why we get annoyed with you. Go find some other forum to give everyone gambling advice. JFC

Lol I hate reading my own posts after I forget them. I see all my cringable errors.

[MDawg]

Mdawg's claims have him spending 50% or more days/nights in Vegas over those 5 years. That is 1000+ days worth of play.

But I do know this, it is routine for tewlj to make shit up on the fly to push his false narratives. He'd rather climb to the top of a tree just to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth. So I call into question the "facts" tewlj attributed to MDawg's posts.

I don't have time to do it but I bet if I went over to WoV and read MDawg's thread, what MDawg actually wrote, and what tewlj says he wrote, are probably vastly different.

The 2021 trip, which was the longest, added up to about 175 days of play in 2021.

2023, for example, was under 100. 2018, maybe a dozen days of play.

Sum total for five years nowhere near 1000 let alone 1000+.

Keep those lies comin' FraudJ!

Why not show us how desperate you are to be believed and lie again about coming up with another player record for someone you claim is MDawg!

(4) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records

That's absolutely true.

[1Hit1der]

I'd worry a lot more about talking shit, all of the time, while making out that you're the "cream of the crop" in leading everyone on. Ha.

Lol I hate reading my own posts after I forget them. I see all my cringable errors.

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[kewlJ]

The 2021 trip, which was the longest, added up to about 175 days of play in 2021.

2023, for example, was under 100. 2018, maybe a dozen days of play.

Sum total for five years nowhere near 1000 let alone 1000+.

I am not going to argue with you over exact number of days. I added up.....at least what you reported at different times. I am not going to waste my time doing so again. And it doesn't even matter if it is 1000+ or 800 over 5 years. This amount of play puts it into longer term. And if a player is winning after such a period the casino is going to take action! And the very first thing they will do is cut out all the freebies and gifts and that inc,.ludes promos chips, and loss rebate offers.

If you are still getting those.....then you are losing overall. Everyone has always known there is a big difference in what you are reporting on forums and what you results actually are. In other words, you aren't reporting all or most of the losing sessions/days. You claiming to still be getting promo chips and other lucrative offers proves that, whether you want to admit it or not. Like I said, you have always thought that the people you are talking to on these forums don't understand how things work, when most being, Aps and real players absolutely do.