Aw man, I REALLY could use a Team like Darkoz has...

[MDawg]

If you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over maybe you'll convince yourself. Of that you're mentally ill.

What's obvious is that besides being a compulsive liar, that UNKewlJ is mentally ill. Only mental illness could explain the erratic back and forth quitting forums, lying, admitting lies, disavowing lies, and the torrential flow of illogic and manic repeating himself the same way with most every post.

Psychiatry, clinical psychology. Impulse-control disorder (ICD) is a class of psychiatric disorders characterized by impulsivity – failure to resist a temptation, an urge, or an impulse; or having the inability to not speak on a thought. That's the UNKewl one to a T!
He knows it is in his best interests to abandon these forums and mind his own low level red to green chip business and yet...he can't help himself!

[MisterV]

The 2021 trip, which was the longest, added up to about 175 days of play in 2021. 2023, for example, was under 100.

175 days of play for an attorney with an active practice: hello degeneracy (the Days of Covid notwithstanding).

Good to see that you seem to realize you've got a gambling problem, dawg: smart of you to decrease your overnights in sin city.

But will you EVER get the gamblin' monkey off your back?

[coach belly]

Drich was not talking about a player that has stayed at casinos and played over 50% of the days over the last 5 years and WON millions.

DRich is obviously aware of MDawg's adventures, and he was talking about MDawg.

Jacobsen wrote about a player who WON 10+ million over 3 years, and did not get cut off from VIP treatment.

For all you know, he wagered more in those 3 years than MDawg has during his adventures, and got comped more than MD has.

Why did he not get cut off? Because unless the casinos believe that you are doing something nefarious they will continue to do whatever it takes to continue to get you to play at their place.

Industry experts say that's how Las Vegas works.

[coach belly]

I am guessing a liar.

What lies have I told?

[accountinquestion]

The 2021 trip, which was the longest, added up to about 175 days of play in 2021. 2023, for example, was under 100.

175 days of play for an attorney with an active practice: hello degeneracy (the Days of Covid notwithstanding).

Good to see that you seem to realize you've got a gambling problem, dawg: smart of you to decrease your overnights in sin city.

But will you EVER get the gamblin' monkey off your back?

A full on gambling addiction will destroy a family more than a low-level drug addiction.

[MDawg]

Yes look at UNKewlJ he just PRETENDS to play, doesn't even - and look how it has messed up his life and led to constant lying.

This tells me you're lying in more than one instance here.

Is somebody paying you to concoct this stuff? When you continually proselytize on and on about "AP this and AP that" it only confirms that you have a non-life who hasn't had much experience in anything.

[kewlJ]

DRich is obviously aware of MDawg's adventures, and he was talking about MDawg.

Jacobsen wrote about a player who WON 10+ million over 3 years, and did not get cut off from VIP treatment.

I don't know whether Drich was speaking of Mdawg or not. I don't think he was. I think he was just speaking in general terms, casinos want to get their money back, assuming they don't believe the player is doing something that gives him an advantage. If a casino thinks a player is playing at an advantage, boom...they pull the plug. Why would they allow the player to keep playing hoping he loses if they know or even think he is playing with an advantage.

And you are mis-representing the scenario that Eliot spoke of. You have mis-represented that for years. I know, because I spoke privately to Eliot specifically about this situation. This was a very high roller (much higher than what Mdawg plays), so the multiple millions this guy was ahead, doesn't compare to Mdawg, and more importantly, nor does the time frame.

This guy made a handful of trips over 3 year. Maybe 12 to 15 over the 3 years. THAT is a very small sample size and someone could very easily be on the positive side of variance or the bell curve. THAT is exactly why they called several experts in to evaluate.

Contrary Mdawg claims he is a ahead millions over 5 years playing hundreds of days a year. That is NOT a small sample size. The casinos especially in Vegas, just aren't going to allow that. It is nonsense.

I am guessing a liar.

What lies have I told?

When you support these things like Singers claims, Mdawgs claims, and even the late Alan Mendelson's 18 y.o. in a row claim, you are either a very dumb gambling fuck, degenerate gambler type, or you are a lair. Although you are an asshole, I don't think you are quite that stupid. If I am right then you are a liar! (intentionally supporting this shit you KNOW is bullshit.

[MDawg]

How many times does UNKewlJ need to suffer thru "It just isn't fair that MDawg gets to claim he wins all the time with comps, gifts and special treatment, and he gets support & cover from Benedict Shack and other Richard Potatoes from the gaming forums' group of administrators!" "Can't you people see how much this HURTS me when I can't do anything about it?"

[coach belly]

Mdawg claims he is a ahead millions over 5 years playing hundreds of days a year.

How many calendar days you play is not a mathematical consideration, it's all one session as far as the math goes.

What matters is how much you wager, and how many wagers are resolved.

As far as you know, Jacobsen's big winner wagered far more and had many more wagers resolved than MDawg, even if he took fewer trips and played fewer days or sessions.

Or, he could have played as you claim to be playing now...larger wagers over fewer sessions. You are playing fewer days, but your earn is the same or better than when Max saw you grinding out red chips 7x52.

Now...what lies are you accusing me of telling?

[coach belly]

If a casino thinks a player is playing at an advantage, boom...they pull the plug. Why would they allow the player to keep playing hoping he loses if they know or even think he is playing with an advantage.

How does this apply to MDawg? Are you assuming that the casinos think or know that MDawg is playing with an advantage?

[soxfan]

Query, who's the bigger bulls-shitter, the kewl-J or the singer, hey hey????

[kewlJ]

If a casino thinks a player is playing at an advantage, boom...they pull the plug. Why would they allow the player to keep playing hoping he loses if they know or even think he is playing with an advantage.

How does this apply to MDawg? Are you assuming that the casinos think or know that MDawg is playing with an advantage?

Just stop it! Mdawg is a losing gambler who is comped accordingly. And because he is comped well is proof that he is a losing player. If he was doing all the winning he claims, his comps and offered would have stopped years ago. He just leaves out the reports that are losing sessions or days

[MDawg]

If you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over maybe you'll convince yourself. Of that you're mentally ill.

What's obvious is that besides being a compulsive liar, that UNKewlJ is mentally ill. Only mental illness could explain the erratic back and forth quitting forums, lying, admitting lies, disavowing lies, and the torrential flow of illogic and manic repeating himself the same way with most every post.

Psychiatry, clinical psychology. Impulse-control disorder (ICD) is a class of psychiatric disorders characterized by impulsivity – failure to resist a temptation, an urge, or an impulse; or having the inability to not speak on a thought. That's the UNKewl one to a T!
He knows it is in his best interests to abandon these forums and mind his own low level red to green chip business and yet...he can't help himself!

[Treeshade]

If a casino thinks a player is playing at an advantage, boom...they pull the plug. Why would they allow the player to keep playing hoping he loses if they know or even think he is playing with an advantage.

How does this apply to MDawg? Are you assuming that the casinos think or know that MDawg is playing with an advantage?

Just stop it! Mdawg is a losing gambler who is comped accordingly. And because he is comped well is proof that he is a losing player. If he was doing all the winning he claims, his comps and offered would have stopped years ago. He just leaves out the reports that are losing sessions or days

This is just wrong ! The level of comps are not proof a player is losing. In fact one could use a lose at one game as cover for an advantage at another game. This works when jumping from slots to tables back to slots. The loss shown might not even be a loss depending on what is being done.

A losing player gets more time in even if they suspect he may have an advantage. A counter for example who is losing three times the amount playing slots or craps will be tolerated in all most every casino.

This is why team play works so well in todays a sweaty environments. A well oiled team of players can counter all most any scenario. Not so easy for the lone wolf or in kews case the lone stall sucker of Vegas

[kewlJ]

This is just wrong ! The level of comps are not proof a player is losing. In fact one could use a lose at one game as cover for an advantage at another game. This works when jumping from slots to tables back to slots. The loss shown might not even be a loss depending on what is being done.

A losing player gets more time in even if they suspect he may have an advantage. A counter for example who is losing three times the amount playing slots or craps will be tolerated in all most every casino.

This is why team play works so well in todays a sweaty environments. A well oiled team of players can counter all most any scenario. Not so easy for the lone wolf or in kews case the lone stall sucker of Vegas

Seedvalue, if you want to converse with me, then stop the homophobic attacks and slurs, ala Singer and Mdawg (and of late Maxpen). I have done or said nothing to you to deserve that.

I respect you as an AP. You know how I always say it doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about (is legit) and who is just talking? even though I may not do, nor even be familiar with a lot of what you do, it is clear to me that you are legit.

That being said, do you play a lot of table games? I have not heard you talk about it much. I am sure you do at times if there is some advantage, but I suspect not too much right?

There is a very big difference between playing primarily table games at an advantage and playing machines. Surveillance can look down at a card counter/table game player and see what they are doing to get an advantage. With machine players it is not so cut and dry. They may not have all the information, like free play amounts and such because there is such a disconnect between marketing and surveillance (and security). This disconnect can be seen when table players are 86ed, and still receive offers in the mail. Sometimes for years.

The other big difference is machine players have to deal with surveillance only, while table players deal with live casino people right there at their game observing their play, in pit folks and dealers who will rat you out to pit folks.

And in the higher limit areas and even more with private tables like Mdawg claims there are even MORE eyes on your play. No one is going to get away with what Mdawg claims for years and millions of dollars. They just aren't. What he claims just isn't reality.

[MDawg]

SV, you have to understand that UNKewlJ has never rated for better than a free hot dog. As you and MaxPen and other APs have observed, he just plays a lil red green action just mindlessly moving some small chips round for cover while trying to hustle as a male prostitute. He'd be straight thrown out (and his brittle bones couldn't handle it) if he tried to straight hustle, so he plays a little as cover while he's ploying a profession as old as mankind itself.

He can't even keep his story straight - sometimes he claims that he never has played rated, other times he slips and claims that he has.

Whatever he knows about casinos comes from what he lifted from other sources, and anything he observes that doesn't gibe with what he has studied up, drives him batty.

The UNKewl one was a liar, and like most liars, he was constantly changing his stories, altering time and personnel from one telling to the next. One time he would tell a story about someone, next time he would switch the story around to give himself the lead. He would sit in the casino coffee shop over coffee and pound cake, talking at random about his experiences, posting constantly on internet forums, plotting ways to take down all those he is envious of, never actually entering the casino, afraid like a nervous poodle to even play.

[coach belly]

Surveillance can look down at a card counter/table game player and see what they are doing to get an advantage.

If you don't believe that MDawg is playing with an advantage, then what's your point?...why do you keep bringing this up?

Are you saying that he cannot win unless he's playing with an advantage that the casino can detect?

[SLaPiNFuNK]

I was at Harrah's San Diego a couple weeks ago and this lady had a stack of cards that she was activating free play on. Each one was for $5, at most $15... She had at least 20 cards it was a joke.

[mickeycrimm]

When Mandalay Bay opened anyone who ran action got at least $5 freeplay the next day. It automatically went on the cards and you didn't need a pin number.

The card readers turned green when a card was inserted. If someone left their card in the machine the card reader would turn red.

Dudes were walking around looking for abandoned cards all day. You could see the red card readers from halfway across the casino.

Then the next morning you would see hustlers with a big stack of cards running off the freeplay.

[Treeshade]

This is just wrong ! The level of comps are not proof a player is losing. In fact one could use a lose at one game as cover for an advantage at another game. This works when jumping from slots to tables back to slots. The loss shown might not even be a loss depending on what is being done.

A losing player gets more time in even if they suspect he may have an advantage. A counter for example who is losing three times the amount playing slots or craps will be tolerated in all most every casino.

This is why team play works so well in todays a sweaty environments. A well oiled team of players can counter all most any scenario. Not so easy for the lone wolf or in kews case the lone stall sucker of Vegas

Seedvalue, if you want to converse with me, then stop the homophobic attacks and slurs, ala Singer and Mdawg (and of late Maxpen). I have done or said nothing to you to deserve that.

I respect you as an AP. You know how I always say it doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about (is legit) and who is just talking? even though I may not do, nor even be familiar with a lot of what you do, it is clear to me that you are legit.

That being said, do you play a lot of table games? I have not heard you talk about it much. I am sure you do at times if there is some advantage, but I suspect not too much right?

There is a very big difference between playing primarily table games at an advantage and playing machines. Surveillance can look down at a card counter/table game player and see what they are doing to get an advantage. With machine players it is not so cut and dry. They may not have all the information, like free play amounts and such because there is such a disconnect between marketing and surveillance (and security). This disconnect can be seen when table players are 86ed, and still receive offers in the mail. Sometimes for years.

The other big difference is machine players have to deal with surveillance only, while table players deal with live casino people right there at their game observing their play, in pit folks and dealers who will rat you out to pit folks.

And in the higher limit areas and even more with private tables like Mdawg claims there are even MORE eyes on your play. No one is going to get away with what Mdawg claims for years and millions of dollars. They just aren't. What he claims just isn't reality.

I’ve explained to you countless times I run teams that play everything. My knowledge is not limited to one vertical even tho I’ve spent many hours posting things about free play mostly because of Darkoz running his trap and destroying certain plays in 2022. Free play or free bets are usually part of the plays we run, but often are just the cherry on top. My point is just because a casino is comping a player big doesn’t prove he is losing. Everyone on my teams are losers. If they start to win they are rotated out. It’s why most of the time a back off from tables comes with a caveat. They are often free to play anything else because they are indeed losers. I’m not going to walk you down the road any further. Just know there are thousands of casinos in the world and they all want and love losers.