It's not Singer's $1.2 million, but it will have to suffice

[AxelWolf]

[MDawg]

Wolf, again, those are stainless Rolexes. They do have some decent fakes of those, but no one is faking precious metal watches.

Also if you watch your video 2:06 that fake Rolex costs 1000 pounds (about $1300.) and you'd really need to be an idiot to pay that much for a fake instead of just paying say a grand for a decent nice genuine Swiss watch (not a Rolex). I mean my Apple Watch is made of titanium and costs about a grand with its band.

And again, stainless steel. Almost every watch I've posted a pic or video of is a precious metal model, 18K gold or platinum.

[MDawg]

You know what it comes down to, you can fake the watch, but you can't fake how it makes you feel.

WHICH gets back to our resident tunnel dweller UNKewlJ...he may post doggerel all day long to make himself feel better about what his true profession is, but it doesn't change his need to keep trying to post his lies and convince us of that he's actually a "pro"* blackjack player.

* as is PROstitute.

[AxelWolf]

[AxelWolf]

[MDawg]

Oh well, once the Wolf gets going you can't stop him.



Stainless steel, Wolf, Stainless.

[MDawg]

Table game players' emotions rise and fall with the deal of the cards, peaking in intensity just before the hand results are revealed, and then, the tension is released. There is this constant up and down.

Boy this is the thought process of a "gambler" not an advantage player or winning player used to winning. I don't know of any table game AP that thinks like this. I really don't. APs and winning players remove that emotion from the equation. If you can't or don't, you are not going to make it as an AP.

Each hand is worth what the expected value is worth nothing more. Even a hand at max bet with a split and a couple of doubles. There really is nothing to get too excited about unless you are planning on quitting forever after that hand. If you are going to keep playing, to the next hand, or even the next session, or next day, that hand is worth only the expected value.

The last time my emotions rose and fell on a single hand like this was probably my first year or two when I was playing underfunded. If you are properly funded, there just is nothing to get emotional about. It is a hand or round worth several dollars in EV...nothing more.

Trolling aside, if I knew nothing of Mdawg and his claims and posts and this was the first thing I had ever read, it defines him as a gambler, not an AP or winning player to me.

edit: I removed a question I had posted in this space to other APs, but that was actually trolling and I said trolling aside. So I wont do that. But this statement by Mdawg is very revealing. Just lets leave it at that.

This was a discussion of the psychology of the typical table game player, and the difference between the psychological makeup of the typical table game player and typical machine player.

Nothing to do with advantage play, but it's not surprising that it went over your head.

Again, the typical slots player just likes to hit those buttons and zone out. The typical table game player thrives off the up and down action of the tension as the hand is played out.

And in any case, you don't even play, you just put a few red and green chips in front of you for cover as you hustle for sugar daddies.

Get back to the tunnel!

I’m also the only one who figured out what Jason does for a living. Blackjack was always a cover story, you guys just didn’t believe it lol.

To be fair Kewj didn’t get into the escort business until after his partner passed away. It’s my understanding that him, and his late partner did do some low rolling AP things around town just enough to get by.

Once I confirmed all this I kind of felt sorry for the dude. I let him be, because it wasn’t worth my time to do a full Mdawg report. The guy is literally just a pathetic lonely gay escort. Maybe he makes up all these lies for entertainment. Is clear that he spends most of his days reading, and posting on every gambling forum on the internet. Sad man real sad lol neighbor guy fucked his brain up real good

[AxelWolf]

[Treeshade]

You have to be able to tell the real thing from fake to begin to fake anything.

And AxelWolf does not. Know real from fake. When I posted pics of a platinum Day Date he thought it resembled some fake Rolex he had in a drawer. I mean come on, AxelWolf has never even seen a tourbillon watch in person, let alone know what one is.

He's never high rolled. He could come up with some nonsense from some cheap casino outside of Vegas, but he'd never be able to stay in a big suite in Vegas long enough to post anything to match what I've posted, which is all legitimate.

It's the classic pearls before swine argument, as to why the Wolf could never understand or emulate what I've done, or even know what's real or what's not.

I’ve stayed in the sky suites at aria for 6 weeks at a time completely comped alternating between myself and my partner. I’ve done this multiple times over the years showing the casino what it needed to comp me. I can do this at will and I’m sure Axel can as well. I also don’t know or care about Rolex’s. I couldn’t tell the difference if my life depended on it. But there are very few rooms if any in Vegas that if I wanted to stay in comped I couldn’t get. High rolling cost nothing for me. I used to get flown to Borgata on their plane back when Boyd owned it. I’ve been helicoptered from regional casinos to other casinos when I was running huge loss rebate plays. Nothing impresses me about the casino comps. It’s all free to to the ones that know how to manipulate the system

[MisterV]

This was a discussion of the psychology of the typical table game player, and the difference between the psychological makeup of the typical table game player and typical machine player. Again, the typical slots player just likes to hit those buttons and zone out. The typical table game player thrives off the up and down action of the tension as the hand is played out.

I find both to be true as to my slot play.

If by "zone out" you mean forget your self, your daily troubles, and surrender to the game ... yes, to a point: it can be quite escapist.

But I am constantly "nervous" when gambling, knowing and hoping that the next hit could be something wonderful: this keeps me attentive as opposed to inattentive to the game.

As for the psychology involved, I've concluded I play in large part because with every bet, be it at a machine or a craps table, I have money at risk and I experience simultaneous jolts of contradictory feelings: greed / hope on the one hand, fear on the other.

A stimulating cocktail.

[Treeshade]

This was a discussion of the psychology of the typical table game player, and the difference between the psychological makeup of the typical table game player and typical machine player. Again, the typical slots player just likes to hit those buttons and zone out. The typical table game player thrives off the up and down action of the tension as the hand is played out.

I find both to be true as to my slot play.

If by "zone out" you mean forget your self, your daily troubles, and surrender to the game ... yes, to a point: it can be quite escapist.

But I am constantly "nervous" when gambling, knowing and hoping that the next hit could be something wonderful: this keeps me attentive as opposed to inattentive to the game.

As for the psychology involved, I've concluded I play in large part because with every bet, be it at a machine or a craps table, I have money at risk and I experience simultaneous jolts of contradictory feelings: greed / hope on the one hand, fear on the other.

A stimulating cocktail.

APs don’t care about the feeling of gambling or being zoned out. At least not successful ones. It’s all about how to get the money period. If I hear guys talking about the feeling they get gambling or that they have intense highs or lows is a red flag.

[accountinquestion]

I'd bet a lot of watch experts can not tell the difference of a first rate fake vs the real deal off a phone pic snapped several feet away and not focusing totally on the watch.

Who knows. Don't think there is any way to test this.

Some stainless steel Rolexes are faked, as are other stainless watches.

Precious metal watches are almost never faked, because the enormous cost of making the case and band with precious metal far outweighs what anyone would be willing to pay for a fake. You can't fake gold or platinum because of its density, and even a cursory examination reveals whether a given watch is made out of a precious metal.

Fakes don't fool the buyers. No one pays the same price for a fake as for the real thing. Fakes are sold for a trifle, and the person buying it knows what he is getting. Anyone paying a large amount of money for a pre-owned watch gets it authenticated, and many of the selling outfits on the internet including ebay won't even allow a watch to be transferred from buyer to seller until it goes through an authentication process.

The only stainless watches I've ever posted pics of are of a few extremely rare vintage collectibles that are - as far as I know, never faked - and are worth far more than most precious metal watches.

Gold plating looks exactly like.. gold. I may or may not research this but I don't buy this argument for one second. I am not even arguing that your watches aren't real but I seriously doubt good fakes are that noticeably different. Gold plating costs nothing. I assume you can gold plate the various parts of a watch but it'd wear off on the wrist. Regardless it is real gold. The weight and density don't matter on your wrist or in a photo.

[accountinquestion]

Wolf, again, those are stainless Rolexes. They do have some decent fakes of those, but no one is faking precious metal watches.

Also if you watch your video 2:06 that fake Rolex costs 1000 pounds (about $1300.) and you'd really need to be an idiot to pay that much for a fake instead of just paying say a grand for a decent nice genuine Swiss watch (not a Rolex). I mean my Apple Watch is made of titanium and costs about a grand with its band.

And again, stainless steel. Almost every watch I've posted a pic or video of is a precious metal model, 18K gold or platinum.

If you're going to wear a watch as a status thing then why not just go with the fake. why else would anyone ever wear one?

I knew a Rolex collector. Guy thought he was all wheeler dealer but then comes to find out that watch styles fall out of popularity and no one wants those old rolexes anymore.

Sorry Charlie.

Hmmm speaking of a nice fake. I guess you can't buy fakes with cash because it'd need to be online. A nice fake might go with all my fancy wardrobe upgrade fellas. bling bling. Look at me. Just like the dawg. So fucking shiney it blinds the eye in the sky.

edit - check out this. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Je4/edit#gid=0

I should start a thread "The finest fake watch money can buy" but that is probably far more than I want to pay. I want something I can possibly flip at the casino.

[PositiveVariance]

There is a watch dealer that makes videos on YouTube, he says every watch they make an offer to buy, gets examined by all 3 of the store owners. He said the fakes are getting very, very good.

He said even most watch dealers could not spot a GOOD fake with the naked eye. It has to be examined microscopically, as well as possibly opened up. Even a $200 fake watch can be good. If a good $800 counterfeit Rolex, takes an expert to examine microscopically, it makes you wonder what is the point? According to MDAWG, it is the way it makes you feel.

In theory, if you have a high quality fake and are sitting at a Casino table, even an expert couldn't tell you affirmatively if it is real or not.

There are at least 2 YouTubers that show off their expensive watches online ($100k+). There was a podcast that confirmed, when they go out, they replace it with an identical fake and leave the real one at home in the safe.

I believe this is the last generation that watches will appreciate in value. Why? Mostly everyone that wears a nice watch is over 40 years old. Some social media kids with money wear nice watches, but for the most part you don't see the 18-40 year old crowd sporting nice watches. At least not on the scale it was 20+ years ago.

Try explaining the value of a nice watch to an 18 year old. They will say: "My phone tells time, why do I need to spend thousands on something that no longer carries a practical purpose?"

It is the same thing with counterfeit sneakers. People are crazy for these shoes costing 5 figures, when the counterfeits can't usually be spotted with the naked eye.

If I was a watch collector/investor, I surely wouldn't hold a significant percentage of my net worth in watches.

[AxelWolf]

Yes that's true V, but there are some OysterQuartz Rolexes, that were made in the 1980s and such. They tick, and are genuine Rolex.

Also, the better fakes have Japanese mechanical movement in them.

But still, these watch experts online you post a picture of a watch and within thirty minutes there are people coming along saying "fake" or "genuine" and posting their reasons. True, the pics need to be decent not fuzzy, but nowadays smart phones take very good close up pics actually.

I watched a few where they were saying it's almost impossible to tell unless you open it up and have one to compare it to. Even the inside is dangerously close. Regardless, there's little chance we could tell from some photos. That storefront in Turkey has all kinds of fake designer clothing, wallets etc.
Given your style, the movies you seem to like, and the personality of flash, there's a chance JK's racist slurs might hint at where you and you're family are from and what kind of business you might be in.

Don't get me started on fake chips.

[jbjb]

My $80 phone can do infinite more things than your $20,000 watch.

[accountinquestion]

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/ This subreddit has so many posts. Cearly more guys are into watches than shit like APing but still. I would love to know the breakdown of how often the watches are fake. I'm guessing for anything but the basic entry model Rolex's that at least half are fake.

I only read a few of these threads but you get a feeling for how serious these watch guys get about this stuff. They keep pushing the envelope on accuracy from what I gather. There is a lot of serious nerdery going on there.

Really kinda turns me off a bit and I don't need to acquire more junk. It'd be funny though to have a decent fake Rolex.. but better off just giving money to charity or some shit.

One interesting thing was the userbase clowning on a guy for thinking women have any clue about watches. Some guy said it was ok for conversation starters with other men but women have no fucking clue and often suspect it is fake anyway. lol

I can barely be bothered to shave properly.. wearing a contraption on my wrist would never fit me.

[MaxPen]

I walk past these designer shops all the time. The fact that all they are there for is looking for that one customer to come in for the week tells me all I need to know. The crap is overpriced. The best one of those places is Balenciaga. It even looks like cheap Chinese crap yet they will try to charge $2k for a bag of potato chips and other such nonsense.

I know some people get all into that stuff but I can't even recognize the stuff outside the stores. Hermes purse Coach purse I can't tell the difference. Now my wife can tell you makes and models of purses from 100 feet away...lol

[accountinquestion]

Yes that's true V, but there are some OysterQuartz Rolexes, that were made in the 1980s and such. They tick, and are genuine Rolex.

Also, the better fakes have Japanese mechanical movement in them.

But still, these watch experts online you post a picture of a watch and within thirty minutes there are people coming along saying "fake" or "genuine" and posting their reasons. True, the pics need to be decent not fuzzy, but nowadays smart phones take very good close up pics actually.

I watched a few where they were saying it's almost impossible to tell unless you open it up and have one to compare it to. Even the inside is dangerously close. Regardless, there's little chance we could tell from some photos. That storefront in Turkey has all kinds of fake designer clothing, wallets etc.
Given your style, the movies you seem to like, and the personality of flash, there's a chance JK's racist slurs might hint at where you and you're family are from and what kind of business you might be in.

Don't get me started on fake chips.

lmao. Fuck that was Mdawg's cousin in Turkey being interviewed in that video?

When do casinos even verify a large chip. What would it take to pass one? Drop it at a table game.. then cash out other chips at cage without ID?

But it makes sense how Mdawg wins if he is using the oldest trick in the book .. cashing fake chips. awesome. you go mdawg. lol

[accountinquestion]

There is a watch dealer that makes videos on YouTube, he says every watch they make an offer to buy, gets examined by all 3 of the store owners. He said the fakes are getting very, very good.

He said even most watch dealers could not spot a GOOD fake with the naked eye. It has to be examined microscopically, as well as possibly opened up. Even a $200 fake watch can be good. If a good $800 counterfeit Rolex, takes an expert to examine microscopically, it makes you wonder what is the point? According to MDAWG, it is the way it makes you feel.

In theory, if you have a high quality fake and are sitting at a Casino table, even an expert couldn't tell you affirmatively if it is real or not.

There are at least 2 YouTubers that show off their expensive watches online ($100k+). There was a podcast that confirmed, when they go out, they replace it with a fake and leave the real one at home.

I believe this is the last generation that watches will appreciate in value. Why? Mostly everyone that wears a nice watch is over 40 years old. Some social media kids with money wear nice watches, but for the most part you don't see the 18-40 year old crowd sporting nice watches. At least not on the scale it was 20+ years ago.

Try explaining the value of a nice watch to an 18 year old. They will say: "My phone tells time, why do I need to spend thousands on something that no longer carries a practical purpose?"

It is the same thing with counterfeit sneakers. People are crazy for these shoes costing 5 figures, when the counterfeits can't usually be spotted with the naked eye.

If I was a watch collector/investor, I surely wouldn't hold a significant percentage of my net worth in watches.

Fakes of this stuff are so awesome. I'm not into intellectual property being robbed but this whole designer thing is stupid at its conception.

Given how Mdawg insists you can tell the difference when it is quite clear that isn't the case makes you wonder who he is trying to fool and about what. Although those chip pics are very likely real so real watches wouldn't be surprising either. Mdawg is an interesting one....

Fancy watches will be a thing as long as we have civilization. Guys who work hard and smartly etc are still going to have more money than they need. Especially so when they hit 40ish.

I'd be surprised if watches appreciate overall though. I don't know enough about that world but it just seems near impossible if new fancy watches are constantly being made and presumably there are styles that fade in/out.