It's not Singer's $1.2 million, but it will have to suffice

[MisterV]

One time I was walking by some pawn shop on or around Fremont street and some guy came up to me with some gold jewelry wanting to sell it. He mentioned a price and I told him that if the pawn shop offered him something for the stuff I'd pay him his price, because it was pretty low. We went into the pawn shop and the pawn shop authenticated all the stuff and offered him a certain amount, I gave him a little more right then and there and we were done.

This is as opposed to the guys you see in downtown L.A. trying to sell jewelry on the street invariably that stuff is not precious metal and is worthless.

I've also been approached fresh off the tables by foreign sounding guys trying to sell a watch, and even from a glance I can tell the watch is fake and at best plated if even plated maybe just gold tone. This happens at more like Station Casinos or Palms, not so much on the Strip at the majors.

I find this hard to believe. No one with a storefront is going to act as a verification service for two randoms off the street to do a transaction with each other. Especially a pawn shop. At the very least you would be told to fuck off by the shop owner.

But that doesn't quite fit the scenario the dawg put out there.

Try this: a guy and a companion walk into a pawn shop; the guy hands the "gold" watch to the pawn broker, saying "I inherited this and need some money; is it real gold? What will you give me for it?"

That sort of question probably happens all the time.

The broker examines / tests it, openly or not, then tells him whether it's real gold and names his price.

[coach belly]

you would be told to fuck off by the shop owner.

You think that a shop owner would just bounce a couple of randos who came into his shop together, looking for an offer on some jewelry?

How would he know, or even suspect, that they had an arrangement?

Is that how things work in Las Vegas pawn shops?

I think you're taking the "right then and there" setting too literally.

It's not likely that the transaction took place in the shop.

[coach belly]

But that doesn't quite fit the scenario the dawg put out there.

I thought I told you to get off my lawn.

[MisterV]

[1Hit1der]

Here you guys go ...

But that 6oesn't quite fit the scenario the 6awg put out there.

I thought I tol6 you to get off my lawn.

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Timeline of the history of the region of Palestine.

Battle of the toilet - Who can get there the fastest.

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The pot stirrer/smoker won the first line, and, the serious joker, the second. Ha.

I guess the problem is that the Dawg might have taken such advantage of a legitimate business, and, next, stupidly gave himself away by paying "a little more right then and there".

[accountinquestion]

One time I was walking by some pawn shop on or around Fremont street and some guy came up to me with some gold jewelry wanting to sell it. He mentioned a price and I told him that if the pawn shop offered him something for the stuff I'd pay him his price, because it was pretty low. We went into the pawn shop and the pawn shop authenticated all the stuff and offered him a certain amount, I gave him a little more right then and there and we were done.

This is as opposed to the guys you see in downtown L.A. trying to sell jewelry on the street invariably that stuff is not precious metal and is worthless.

I've also been approached fresh off the tables by foreign sounding guys trying to sell a watch, and even from a glance I can tell the watch is fake and at best plated if even plated maybe just gold tone. This happens at more like Station Casinos or Palms, not so much on the Strip at the majors.

I find this hard to believe. No one with a storefront is going to act as a verification service for two randoms off the street to do a transaction with each other. Especially a pawn shop. At the very least you would be told to fuck off by the shop owner.

Shop owners become tired of being in the free appraisal business. People have nothing to do lose .. show up wanting free expertise with no intention of selling the item. I'd imagine this is especially true for watches and antiques that have been faked. (vs bars of gold etc that take little to appraise/authenticate)

[PositiveVariance]

Most likely the pawn shop owner didn't know that was the reason they were there. It would obviously be silly of MDAWG to say anything other than, 'I am his friend". He surely isn't going to say, "I'm here for the sole purpose to hear your offer to buy this item, so I can knowingly feel confident of the authenticity of these items, when I purchase them outside".

There would be no reason to make it appear anything other than a typical pawn transaction.

Also, Pawn Shops almost always have "wiggle room". So it would have been smart of the guy selling to try to squeeze that number out of Pawn Guy, since MDAWG was at least willing to pay that amount.

In theory, MDAWG could have bought the items outside, went back later that day and made an EZ 10% (Difference between first offer and final offer).

[tableplay]

Here you guys go ...




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Timeline of the history of the region of Palestine.

Battle of the toilet - Who can get there the fastest.

https://anagram-solver.net/But%20tha...0?partial=true


The pot stirrer/smoker won the first line, and, the serious joker, the second. Ha.

I guess the problem is that the Dawg might have taken such advantage of a legitimate business, and, next, stupidly gave himself away by paying "a little more right then and there".

[MaxPen]

I guess, since you guys put it that way, it could have happened. But shop owners are pretty good at preventing stuff like that from happening. I'm still not buying it. I'm don't think I have ever seen someone on the street selling legit chains. Plus you'd think MDawg wouldn't stop to give someone attempting that the time of day. I know I wouldn't. Because there's at most a 5% chance of it being legit and I wouldn't want to be identified by a street person as having money on my person.

[accountinquestion]

I guess, since you guys put it that way, it could have happened. But shop owners are pretty good at preventing stuff like that from happening. I'm still not buying it. I'm don't think I have ever seen someone on the street selling legit chains. Plus you'd think MDawg wouldn't stop to give someone attempting that the time of day. I know I wouldn't. Because there's at most a 5% chance of it being legit and I wouldn't want to be identified by a street person as having money on my person.

Strong point. Why would you even entertain the idea the jewelry is real? Especially to the extent you follow the guy into a shop. Not so much the shopkeepers interaction is unbelievable but more so Mdawg's. Mdawg seems more than savvy enough to just tell the bum, 'bugger off'.

Not even 5% chance jewelry is real IMO.

Although I sometimes spend time interacting with these people just for the lolz. So I could see myself following this guy to a pawnshop just for the entertainment aspect of it.

[MDawg]

Right V, all the pawn shop noted was someone walk in to try to sell something. I just stood back and waited while the shop examined and came up with a price. I'd already told the guy that I'd pay him more than whatever the pawn shop offered as long as the stuff was real gold.

There were some diamonds and gems on the jewelry too, but I assumed the pawn shop was going to offer zero towards any of that and the price they offered to pay the guy was well below melt for the precious metal alone. I later had the stuff examined more carefully and all the gems turned out to be genuine too.

These were not chains. I still have all that stuff I got that day. Did I or anyone I know ever wear any of it?

AccountInQuestion I've been around and owned watches and jewelry all my life. I have friends and family in the business. I may not be as good as a professional at judging whether something is genuine, but I'm not that far off either. Yes all those pros test something to make sure, but they already have a good idea just by looking whether something is what it appears to be.

[MDawg]

Really, the only risk was if the whole thing was a switch and bait scam, but this guy wasn't like that. He just looked like an average Joe, if I were to guess - trying to come up with money for a gambling fix or to pay the bills after he blew his money gambling. He didn't look rich but he didn't look shabby either. Just maybe a little - desperate.

The thought occurred to me that there could be a switcheroo but the pieces were well used not shiny new, and pretty unique.

[accountinquestion]

Which area of high-end items are you the least familiar with Mdawg?

[MDawg]

Okay so how about this - one time at a watch shop that sold pre-owned pieces (not a pawn shop, a watch shop), I was looking through all his watches and found one that I recognized, a somewhat rare Swiss piece, and I knew it was solid gold too (marked PG on the back).

It was in a tray with some crappy watches all plated. What had happened obviously was the owner had misread it as 14K PG plated gold, but PG alone means plumb gold which means 14K solid). I asked the owner how much, and he came with some pretty high price for a crappy plated watch, but a ridiculously low price for that particular especially solid 14K watch, and I pretended like I was debating, then just handed him the two bills.

The thing was (is, I still have it), worth three thousand easily.

Yes, it's not a watch I ever got around to wearing, but I might give it to someone someday.

[accountinquestion]

Okay so how about this - one time at a watch shop that sold pre-owned pieces (not a pawn shop, a watch shop), I was looking through all his watches and found one that I recognized, a somewhat rare Swiss piece, and I knew it was solid gold too (marked PG on the back).

It was in a tray with some crappy watches all plated. What had happened obviously was the owner had misread it as 14K PG plated gold, but PG alone means plumb gold which means 14K solid). I asked the owner how much, and he came with some pretty high price for a crappy plated watch, but a ridiculously low price for that particular especially solid 14K watch, and I pretended like I was debating, then just handed him the two bills.

The thing was (is, I still have it), worth three thousand easily.

Yes, it's not a watch I ever got around to wearing, but I might give it to someone someday.

It would be very nice if you gave it to Kewl as a peace offering.

Man that'd be the best Christmas for this forum that I can imagine.

[accountinquestion]

... and then ...

Kewl sells the watch and buys presents for everyone in the tunnels. They have the greatest Christmas dinner. Ham. Turkey. All the fixins. Wow. That would put many tears in my eyes.

It might even make Monet tear up a bit.

[MaxPen]

Okay so how about this - one time at a watch shop that sold pre-owned pieces (not a pawn shop, a watch shop), I was looking through all his watches and found one that I recognized, a somewhat rare Swiss piece, and I knew it was solid gold too (marked PG on the back).

It was in a tray with some crappy watches all plated. What had happened obviously was the owner had misread it as 14K PG plated gold, but PG alone means plumb gold which means 14K solid). I asked the owner how much, and he came with some pretty high price for a crappy plated watch, but a ridiculously low price for that particular especially solid 14K watch, and I pretended like I was debating, then just handed him the two bills.

The thing was (is, I still have it), worth three thousand easily.

Yes, it's not a watch I ever got around to wearing, but I might give it to someone someday.

It would be very nice if you gave it to Kewl as a peace offering.

Man that'd be the best Christmas for this forum that I can imagine.

Zero chance...RIP

[MDawg]

... and then ...

Kewl sells the watch and buys presents for everyone in the tunnels. They have the greatest Christmas dinner. Ham. Turkey. All the fixins. Wow. That would put many tears in my eyes.

It might even make Monet tear up a bit.

Maybe if my heart grew three sizes...I could bring myself to do that for someone like UNKewlJ.



Eh...maybe not. Might take at least six sizes up.

[MDawg]

AccountInQuestion, no offense but - you really do have a sort of love hate thing for UNKewlJ, eh? I'm sure it comes from feeling sorry for the poor bastard, but still, that's very noble of you to have any kind thoughts for the

thieving lying low down no good varmint.

[accountinquestion]

AccountInQuestion, no offense but - you really do have a sort of love hate thing for UNKewlJ, eh? I'm sure it comes from feeling sorry for the poor bastard, but still, that's very noble of you to have any kind thoughts for the

thieving lying low down no good varmint.

Kewl is like the background radiation in the Chernobyl area. Constantly adding a level of toxicity but very much ignorable if you choose. Without his essence - this forum would not be what it currently is but it would still be just fine.

It isn't that Kewl adds much or defines the character of this board but he keeps things going. That is true.

I definitely don't love him or hate him. He would be a fascinating person to watch on something like Soft White Underbelly. Seeing him out of character explaining what led him to be Kewl. Ultimately he is harmless as rationally you have to stop taking him as a serious person. I still make tunnel jokes because it is so funny and as harmless as it gets. He will have to deal. I've picked him apart enough otherwise. If he doesn't drag me into his crap then I let him be.

Usually his math adds up and life is all about the math. Right?? Right !?!?!?

One can figure him out enough to just let him be. He isn't going to give up. This whole thing is super important to him.

At some point if there is nothing to prove and no funny then I am being the bully like others have suggested. I wish the guy the best. I'm sure hes had a hard go of it. shrug