It's not Singer's $1.2 million, but it will have to suffice

[monet]

Unsure about the resetting, apparently they reset the machine (as opposed to rebooting from memory) if there's a jackpot over a certain amount. Sounds like it's intended to protect against DUP style bugs.

It's got to be against regulations though for a game with stored equity.

I've hit many jackpots in the 40k to 100k range and never had anyone ever reset my machine.
I've either played it off or refused to play it off.
Must be a per property thing or something new.
In some places, that jackpot wouldn't even be a hand pay if you're on Fast Pay.
In other places, like the El Cortel they take the hard drive to the back room and check it for a 10k or higher jackpot lol.
If you hit a large jackpot in some downtown properties, on graveyard, they literally make you wait till the day shift Mechanics/IT Guys come in.
That's a pain, IMO.

[Rob.Singer]

Okay, so I have a question for everyone here.

I did something stupid.

After this massive hit, they did a million verification checks and all that. I was waiting for quite some time to get paid.

Near the end of the process, one of the employees kept asking another, "Can I reset it now?" and they kept delaying her. Finally they said she could "reset it", and she did something (I forget what), and then she said I could continue playing. I said, "Actually I'm done now, can't top this".

I noticed my Royal was NOT on the screen anymore. It was some completely different set of hands. I did not look if the game had switched, but I know that her "resetting" made it change to my Royal to this new screen.

In all the excitement, I forgot to run my final 4x multiplier on those 10 hands!


I just realized it today. Of course, it was long gone when I went down to check.

But what happened here? Had the Royal stayed on screen, it would have reminded me to run the last hand (without the UX bet).

However, given that it was different, I forgot all about the 4x being there.


My questions for you VP geniuses:

1) What was this "reset" she kept talking about?

2) How come the Royal disappeared after the reset, whereas other handpays keep the same screen up, no matter how long?

3) Is it possible they stiffed me me out of $150 or so EV here by resetting the entire machine out of 4x mode?


Not a gigantic deal, but annoying. I wish I noticed at the time.

I know you went in giddy mode, but this reset was the simple keying they do on every handpay to clear the jackpot credits. Sounds like the gal had to be told by the suits when to proceed.

You had $262 still available to cashout or play after the reset, so there's zero chance they would have changed the game on you, especially on that particular game. And no way they used one of your credits to play it off w/o consent. Maybe in your excitement you cashed out and weren't paying attention to what was happening. They could have played it off by inserting a dollar or $1 ticket. I always refuse to play small or large winners off and it's not required. Where did you hit this, and are you a familiar face there who's hit other handpays? On my $1.5m hit (not arguing it again) at Circa--yes CIRCA, where I've hit a number of other jackpots up to $40k prior, they were familiar with my not wishing to gamble further after being paid, so I'm sure they never left the winners showing after the cashout but I never paid attention or cared.

Tipping is unnecessary and I wouldn't have left one unless you are a regular and they do anything special for you. Otherwise, tipping just because they lather you up with tip talk isn't wise.

I also congratulate you on this winner, and the fact that it was your first dealt Royal. They ARE exciting.

[tableplay]

This reminds me of the time I and a vulturing partner/friend found a Golden Egypt at $187.50 per spin with columns 1 and 3 wild for the next spin and with the screen showing that reels 1 and 3 had been wild for the last spin. What I assumed happened is that the person who generated the play got so excited about the hand pay that they forgot to play off the 2nd of two wild spins. It was like finding $1800 on the ground.

[monet]

This reminds me of the time I and a vulturing partner/friend found a Golden Egypt at $187.50 per spin with columns 1 and 3 wild for the next spin and with the screen showing that reels 1 and 3 had been wild for the last spin. What I assumed happened is that the person who generated the play got so excited about the hand pay that they forgot to play off the 2nd of two wild spins. It was like finding $1800 on the ground.

NOICE!
Sounds similar to the way it was when I got to Vegas.
You could literally make 80k, in cash, per year, with no risk, playing quarter video poker.
Of course, not so much for guys like you and redietz, who always report all earned income, to The Man.

[mickeycrimm]

Nice find (probably had to scout a lot of screens to find that one) and hit. How come you ten-coined it ?

You can bet he was on a CZR property. And taking a shortcut to Diamond Elite status.

[jbjb]

Todd didn't show the pay table, but 9/7/5 DB UX can readily be found and isn't a terrible game.

[Don Perignom]

Todd didn't show the pay table, but 9/7/5 DB UX can readily be found and isn't a terrible game.

I haven't seen that one. What are the multipliers? A normal 12/10/8 (FH/flush/straight) schedule would put the game >100% afaik.

Dan received 4x on his royal(s), so no cut there. Some games only give 2x.

[Don Perignom]

Here's a (legal) online 9/6/5 game listed at 99.03%:

[jbjb]

Todd didn't show the pay table, but 9/7/5 DB UX can readily be found and isn't a terrible game.

I haven't seen that one. What are the multipliers? A normal 12/10/8 (FH/flush/straight) schedule would put the game >100% afaik.

Dan received 4x on his royal(s), so no cut there. Some games only give 2x.

Unfortunately the machine that it was on was replaced by the new Superstar III machines about a year ago and its no longer there. It was a 1 cent denom and I'm 99.54% sure it was 9/7/5. Very well could have been set that way by mistake.

[coach belly]

9/7/5 DB UX can readily be found

I haven't seen that one.

the machine that it was on was replaced by the new Superstar III machines about a year ago and its no longer there.

Where is it readily found?

[jbjb]

the machine that it was on was replaced by the new Superstar III machines about a year ago and its no longer there.

Where is it readily found?

I wouldn't tell you.

[coach belly]

I wouldn't tell you.

Yeah, no shit, faker.

[MisterV]

Coach, IIRC jbjb is an AP who feels too much info about AP opportunities is posted on these boards.

Given that, is it surprising that he chooses not to clue you in?

When he says 9/7/5 DB UX can readily be found he probably means HE can find it, hell he probably already knows where one or more are, and to him that's all that matters.

Besides, you treat people like shit here: why then would you expect anything in return other than scorn?

[Don Perignom]

UX is a tricky game. Here's the DB I mentioned from online:



Only 97.80 base, but 99.03 max bet.

On the same UX 10play game menu, Triple Double Bonus:



Much higher 99.57 base, but max bet only adds 0.01.

And I assume the strategies are weird because you have to go for flushes and straights to get the big next-hand multipliers.

[smurgerburger]

While we're on this topic, is there a UX strategy app?

I know how to generate the strategies from WoO's calculator but obviously it would be much more convenient to have an app with a bunch of presets.

[coach belly]

is it surprising that he chooses not to clue you in?

He said it was readily found, then his next post said it was replaced a year ago.

Duh. I didn't expect him to tell me, he doesn't know.

He's a proven phony, just like your boy tewlj.

And yeah, I treat people who shit on others like shit.

What goes around comes around. That's what they deserve.

Like you, you shit on others.

So eat shit.

[Don Perignom]

While we're on this topic, is there a UX strategy app?

This is the one I'm aware of:

https://www.playperfectllc.com/ultim...d-bonus-streak

It looks good for evaluating tough decisions during play, assuming no concerns about heat from security or surveillance.

I'm not sure it's ideal for my preferences, as I like to play from a strategy chart. I find learning through practice to be inefficient.

[smurgerburger]

While we're on this topic, is there a UX strategy app?

This is the one I'm aware of:

https://www.playperfectllc.com/ultim...d-bonus-streak

It looks good for evaluating tough decisions during play, assuming no concerns about heat from security or surveillance.

I'm not sure it's ideal for my preferences, as I like to play from a strategy chart. I find learning through practice to be inefficient.

Thanks just bought it.

[MisterV]

is it surprising that he chooses not to clue you in?

He said it was readily found, then his next post said it was replaced a year ago.

So eat shit.

*Wipes shit-eating grin off face and starts to type...*

Gee Coach, chill out: he said that one machine with the game on it was changed to no longer offer that game from a particular place about a year ago.

Obviously that game can be found on other machines located elsewhere; he knows where, you don't, and he won't tell you.

[coach belly]

Obviously that game can be found on other machines located elsewhere; he knows where, you don't, and he won't tell you.

That's all supposition, based on facts not in evidence.

He brought up the game, and said that it was readily available.

Dom commented that he had never seen it.

jb's bluff was called, then he promptly folded...

Unfortunately the machine that it was on was replaced by the new Superstar III machines about a year ago and its no longer there.

Not a machine...the machine. He didn't mention other games located elsewhere.

Why not? What's the point of responding to Dom that way?

Obviously it's because he doesn't know of any others, or he would have disclosed that, and not cited only an example of the game that was not readily available.

I asked where, and he answered that he wouldn't tell me, not that he won't.

Won't is a certainty...he knows, but won't tell me.

Wouldn't is conditional...what condition could that be?

If he knew, then he wouldn't tell me.

He doesn't know...he's a phony, a proven phony from way back at that.