Mdawg's current Vegas trip

[jbjb]

Nobody gives a fuck. Let him post his "adventures" and just ignore him.

[kewlJ]

For the record, I have forwarded the information posted in my original post of this thread. $339,000 in 45 days while comped high end suites, to Mike Shackleford. Last time I talked to Mike, he said he really should read more of Mdawgs claims and comment, but he just doesn't have the time. He said if there is anything particular, I have concerns about I should let him know and he would take a look. I don't know if he will. I don't know what he can say without violating that stupid NDA. I guess we will see. Maybe we will get another "Wizard and I went over my records and I am about even" moment.

[PositiveVariance]

If you feel he is incorrectly claiming a session take him up on his challenge. Hell take him up multiple times on his challenge.

No one is going to challenge MDAWG on any specific session. This is why he specifically offers his challenge the way he does. Why? As previously mentioned all or most sessions are likely real. He is simply omitting certain losing sessions that turn his overall results positive. (At least on the forum. Not in real life of course.)

If you simply omitted your top 2 losing sessions out of 50 sessions, you turn your results "positive".

Imagine the hump he must get over with just tipping. He is likely giving up another 1 -2% of his overall action just in tips. The Baccarat house edge that is a tad over 1%, now becomes 2-3%.

[kewlJ]

Nobody gives a fuck. Let him post his "adventures" and just ignore him.

I can't do that at this point jbjb. Not after all he has done to try to discredit and harm me. Maybe that is small of me. I will accept that.

[MaxPen]

If you feel he is incorrectly claiming a session take him up on his challenge. Hell take him up multiple times on his challenge.

No one is going to challenge MDAWG on any specific session. This is why he specifically offers his challenge the way he does. Why? As previously mentioned all or most sessions are likely real. He is simply omitting certain losing sessions that turn his overall results positive. (At least on the forum. Not in real life of course.)

If you simply omitted your top 2 losing sessions out of 50 sessions, you turn your results "positive".

Master of the obvious.

[PositiveVariance]

If you feel he is incorrectly claiming a session take him up on his challenge. Hell take him up multiple times on his challenge.

No one is going to challenge MDAWG on any specific session. This is why he specifically offers his challenge the way he does. Why? As previously mentioned all or most sessions are likely real. He is simply omitting certain losing sessions that turn his overall results positive. (At least on the forum. Not in real life of course.)

If you simply omitted your top 2 losing sessions out of 50 sessions, you turn your results "positive".

Master of the obvious.

You say everything is so obvious.

The prostitute/Sugar Daddy stuff with KJ, is that obviously fake as well?

Or should it be taken as fact?

[kewlJ]

If you simply omitted your top 2 losing sessions out of 50 sessions, you turn your results "positive".

I don't want to speculate, because I don't know exactly what is going on. All I know is as reported, this adventure is not real. And that is what I said from the very beginning.

A lot of people have though...progression system. And that would explain a lot if he was just leaving out that 2-3 massive losing sessions that comes along every once in a while that wipes out all the winning. All the posted reports could be correct, just absent that occasional, 80k, 100k, 120k loss that wipes out everything.

And everything else would fit. All the comps, because he is actually losing long-term.
His statement about large bankroll
Some of the statements Shackleford has managed to sneak in about systems.
Even the pit folks loving him and his play. Everything.

Leave out those 2-3 huge losing sessions and everything works. He is just another baccarat system player, that is losing long-term and gets good comps.

And progression system is why he is willing to accept any challenge on any one session. he would be a big favorite to win that single session.

[MaxPen]

No one is going to challenge MDAWG on any specific session. This is why he specifically offers his challenge the way he does. Why? As previously mentioned all or most sessions are likely real. He is simply omitting certain losing sessions that turn his overall results positive. (At least on the forum. Not in real life of course.)

If you simply omitted your top 2 losing sessions out of 50 sessions, you turn your results "positive".

Master of the obvious.

You say everything is so obvious.

The prostitute/Sugar Daddy stuff with KJ, is that obviously fake as well?

Or should it be taken as fact?

I was referring to you being the master of the obvious. But your end perception is incorrect so don't take that too literally.

You can take the FraudJ stuff however you want. It's all up to you.

[accountinquestion]

Bottom line is you have never met anyone on any forum or had any transaction on them so don't put it off on shackleford or mdawg..

I'm not sure but it seems to me people are becoming more and more insane on this board.

I have a long standing policy, that if someone engages civilly and somewhat respectful, I will engage and try to have a reasonable conversation, even if they have trolled me in the past.

That said, I am done with you. You just want to repeat the same points. This is an anonymous gambling forum. That you and others now seem to want there to be some requirement that someone can't be anonymous and HAS to meet someone is bullshit. I would have never come here if that was a rule. If it is a new rule, have Dan Druff post it. BUT YOU don't get to make up the rules.

Additionally in your last post, you re-hashed your whole conspiracy theory about male prostitution. I don't for the life of me, know how you are not embarrased to post such nonsense. And then at the end you wrote, And if it is not that then he got money from a sugardaddy.

Guess what that is called AinQ? It is called throwing mud at the wall and seeing what sticks. And if it isn't that, then it is this, and if not that, then maybe he won the lottery and if not that, maybe someone in his family invented the paperclip and that is where his money comes from.

Just stop being an idiot dude. If you ever want to engage with me, just stop being a jackass. Otherwise write whatever you want, but don't expect me to reply. I have had enough.

Oh Insane One, pull me in once again !

You were acting like it is conceivable you would take up mdawg and shack on some bet. Given the effort you put into not meeting or transacting with anyone over the course of 10+ years means you're not going to do it now so cut the shit.

"you and others now seem to want there to be some requirement that someone can't be anonymous" <-- AGAIN No one demands anything like this. You have little credibility because you put so much effort into being this character. No one else is being a character in a made up life. No one needs to meet anything. Who claims what? 90% of the APs don't claim a damn thing on here.

Anyway.. you love all this. If no one brought up the prostitution thing you'd probably do it yourself at some point.

But most importantly Kewl. Yes I am embarrassed about the nonsense I post .. but what about YOU??!?! lol.. anyway..

Kewl I know a guy who talks to chatgpt as an actual therapist. Perhaps you should look into that. I'm not even totally kidding here.

My loserdom grows everyday responding to you. I despise Singer for being such a nasty person but I feel like I have taken over his job.

Kewl, get help.

PS - It really is quite fascinating how Kewl turns this all into some victimhood. Is he trying to win an argument or is he just trying to keep this negativity going towards himself. He clearly feeds off it.

BTW I am pretty sure I have a good idea what Mdawg is doing. Lets just say *IF* he is doing what i believe he is doing - then he is definitely a very high level AP. Kewl should google "Don Johnson blackjack" for a rough idea.

[accountinquestion]

Just stop being an idiot dude. If you ever want to engage with me, just stop being a jackass. Otherwise write whatever you want, but don't expect me to reply. I have had enough.

That right there brings a tear to my eyes.

Happy Thanksgiving Kewl. I hope you have a nice holiday with your brother and whomever else.

edit - Oh I thought you said you were not going to reply. I never expect you to reply Kewl if I don't ask you a quesiton. I mean I know often will.. Regardless - cheers buddy.

[kewlJ]

This clown is telling me to google Don Johnson, like I don't know who Don Johnson is. I know all about Don Johnson and what he did. The story broke maybe a year or two after my Atlantic City days, so naturally I was interested just because I had played that location (much lower limit of course).

The loss rebate angle has already been discussed extensively regarding Mdawg's claims. It was Axelwolf that brought it up. It was just after Mdawg had posted like 50 straight winning sessions. Axelwolf said, I thought maybe you were doing something you weren't telling us like a loss rebate. Mdawg immediately jumped and claimed that yes he was receiving a loss rebate.

Problem was, you actually have to have losing sessions for a loss rebate to kick in and become an advantage play. Mdawg wasn't at least reporting any losses or very few, so it didn't fit. And a loss rebate would in no way account for all winning sessions. Done correctly a loss rebate will have the player pretty much divided among winning and losing sessions, but the losing sessions will be smaller because of the rebate. This was not close to what Mdawg was reporting.

Additionally, because of Don Johnson, casinos know not to give a loss rebate per session. Players can still negotiate a loss rebate, if their play is substantial enough but the rebate will cover the duration of a trip, rather than individual sessions.

I suppose a player on an extended trip of several months, could make it look like his trip has ended after a couple losing days and collect the rebate, as long as he wasn't staying at the casino. Just not play there for a few days and then return and start a "new trip".

But again, this involves losing sessions and days, and Mdawg just not report many of those. So if this is what he is doing and just not reporting the losing periods, we are sort of back to square 1, which is as mdawg is reporting it, this is not real.

[smurgerburger]

If something has been discussed on the Internet, you can rest assured that KJ knows all about it.

[redietz]

You guys need to get off the binary idea that if kewlJ is bullshitting, MDawg isn't.

Everybody knows who Don Johnson is. Every casino knows who Don Johnson is and management has signed their souls over to never allowing it to happen again. Having said that, there are people besides Don Johnson getting rebates, but the last thing you would do after your first six months would be to advertise it on forums. The Mdawg profile is pretty specific; he'd be identified in some reasonable span of time. The guy posted photos, after all, of events he attended and all that.

Now if MDawg posted on forums to accrue a following of investors, maybe he could pull that off for six months, but I don't think much longer than that.

I don't see what the big draw is. I could do what MDawg claims -- make a bunch of wagers of, say, 10K and up. Post photos of the winning tickets every day. Almost never post losers. Better yet, shoot for a bunch of 20K on up middles. Post the winning tickets; skip the losers. Make sure my high rolling friends invite me as a plus-one to various events. Take photos. Take photos while I hang out in their suites. Borrow their suites for a day here and a day there. Invite Shack and some of you wannabes to hang out. Eat at Vic and Anthony's a few times on my friends' comps. Drive the Lamborghini around town. Visit The Green Door with Seed.

Not hard. Not sophisticated. It would take some work to publish the sheer volume of Mdawg stories, but it could be done. I could say how I know all the sports book managers (I actually do know a handful of them), explain how they all pat me on the back. Hell, I'd take some video with them saying nice things about me, which a couple of them probably would. I'm acquainted with someone who used to babysit for one of them. I'm in a private contest with another one.

All of this is easy.

And then what? You guys would buy it? You'd hypothesize about how I'm a great handicapper? How I'm a "high roller?" Or I'm getting huge rebates? As they say on ESPN, c'mon, man!!

The overarching point is, if there are easy ways to foster a long-shot story without the long-shot being true, why would you buy into the long-shot? This applies to both kewlJ and MDawg, by the way.

And I gotta argue, as a final point, that from a probability perspective, the kewlJ-as-male-whore angle isn't all that nuts. When you ask yourself what's more likely, male escort posing as blackjack player, or blackjack player making it for a decade at 100K a year in LV itself, the former is more likely.

[smurgerburger]

I only read the first and last paragraph, but both are true.

[accountinquestion]

Invite Shack and some of you wannabes to hang out. Eat at Vic and Anthony's a few times on my friends' comps. Drive the Lamborghini around town. Visit The Green Door with Seed.

Not hard. Not sophisticated.

Smurger you should have middled Redietz's post. There are a few gems.

[MDawg]

Why all this UNKewl speculation? Why not just post those "player records" he has and be done with it? Ah but then, he has nothing to post, nothing to say, other than more SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo babble.

Another thing about UNKewlJ,

But I do know this, it is routine for tewlj to make shit up on the fly to push his false narratives. He'd rather climb to the top of a tree just to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth. So I call into question the "facts" tewlj attributed to MDawg's posts.

I don't have time to do it but I bet if I went over to WoV and read MDawg's thread, what MDawg actually wrote, and what tewlj says he wrote, are probably vastly different.

which includes that he has no idea where I stay in Vegas, and simply assumes it's always in house at the casinos. You'll notice that I never commented one way or another on his mansion thread. Like I want anyone to know where I have residences.

The thing about the UNKewl one is that he's incapable of keeping his mouth shut, even when it might benefit him. That's why his full name address have circulated all over the 'net - his own SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo baBbLe led to that.

MDawg knows to stay silent when it suits him.

UNKewlJ is desperate to prove / not prove where he lives. I don't suffer from that sickness.

[MaxPen]

Why all this UNKewl speculation? Why not just post those "player records" he has and be done with it? Ah but then, he has nothing to post, nothing to say, other than more SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo babble.

If he really had something like that undoubtedly it would be posted. That you could take to the bank.

[MDawg]

Of course we'll get a 10x multiplier response as to why he can't post yet another piece of evidence he claims to have, or the name of yet another compadre who know who he is and what he does.

When someone challenges me, I just state what I state and additionally offer the MDawg Challenge.

When backed into a corner, caught in a lie, and desperate to be heard, UNKewlJ suddenly comes up with something unverifiable with no back up. For example, the nonsense about the MGM execs visiting this bum in his mother's ratty apartment on Halloween (with docs that he cannot post), stating that he has a police report about Tater's showing up at this apartment, but never posting it, stating that AP's know who he is, and yet never naming them, stating that he has filed a lawsuit, but never pointing to it, I have PMs to prove what I am saying but I cannot post them and another regular go-to lie of his, is that so and so said something in private, but I can't say what it is.

This is why MickeyCrimm said: He'd rather climb to the top of a tree just to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.

after 20 years of posting has never produced one iota of proof about anything he ever claimed or ever said. Not even a picture

UNKewlJ follows a regular pattern of spouting nonsense and then when challenged trying to back it up with unverifiable hearsay. Individually they don't mean as much as collectively. Collectively this draws into question his entire projected persona and existence.

And you're right MaxPen, this guy has no discipline, no ability to hold his tongue, if he had any sort of evidence about anything he would spill it.

[kewlJ]

Where did I ever say I had Mdawgs current records? I saw his records several years ago for that year, and almost immediately regretted involving a friend like I did. I never posted those records. And frankly didn't need to. As soon as I said I had seen them, Mdawg crumbled and we got that whole, "Wizard and I went over my records and I was about even" fiasco, wiping away $500K of previously claimed wins. I probably could get his current records, if I wanted. Lots of people probably could get hold of his current records. All it would take is a connection that works in the industry. It isn't like there are all that many players at his level claiming what he claims.

Look, the Mdawg "adventure" is that of a high roller that gets all these high end comps that he claims and win significant amounts on top. THAT is what myself and many others objected too. That is just not the way it works. Are there high rollers that get comped well for there long-term losing play. Absolutely. Just check out the casino limos lined up at the airport every Friday afternoon and evening.

Are there players that win long-term, Absolutely! They are called advantage players. Some even make the kind of money Mdawg talks about. But for the most part AP's are in a battle with casinos to do what they do. Mdawg trying to combine the two is what I and others objected to. That is not reality or the way things work. Casinos want losing players, not winning players. It doesn't take long for them to figure out who is winning, and even at lower levels, one of the absolute first things they do is cut out all the freebies.

So Mdawgs story that myself and others objected to was that of a high-roller winning player. Several years ago when I did get a hold of Mdawgs records, and they didn't match what he claimed, I proved that he was not the winning player he claimed. That proof came the day he altered that years posted winnings from $500k to "about even".

I don't know if he realizes it or not (I suspect he does), but that is the day the Mdawg "adventure" as he posted it really ended. Ever since that day, everyone has known what he is and it is exactly what Dan Druff described. A higher limit player, that loses and is gets good comps. Just like Druff said, I only wish that was the story he told all along. It is a good story and one that would have interested many of us.

So now, Today Mdawg has once again changed his story. After 5 years of posting about all the suites and comps, including hundreds, if not thousands of photos, Mdawg today changed his story to that he doesn't stay at the casino, that he does get all these high end comps.

So the story of the high end winning player who gets all these high end comps is now over on both ends. NOT a winning player. NOT all the high end comps. Great, Great story Mdawg.

[MDawg]

Of course we'll get a 10x multiplier response as to why....

RIP