Hahahahhaha lost a $128 ticket

[DGenBen]

He ain't making $110k with all of the Asians sitting on plays in Vegas. No fucking way!

I've never been impressed with any Asian camper. I have been blown away when accompanying dedicated professional machine APs on mapped out routes.

Actually Asian campers impress me.

Being able to sit in a noisy smoke filled casino for 20 hours a day doing nothing but waiting on the chance (just the chance) that the player they are watching leaves before winning the $20 in EV banked on a machine.

It’s why I don’t think you see as many American campers.

You would have to have grown up under Mao to think it’s a good way to live.

Probably why in some areas though you see a lot of Mexican campers. It’s still better than picking lettuce.

[Rob.Singer]

He ain't making $110k with all of the Asians sitting on plays in Vegas. No fucking way!

I've never been impressed with any Asian camper. I have been blown away when accompanying dedicated professional machine APs on mapped out routes.

Actually Asian campers impress me.

Being able to sit in a noisy smoke filled casino for 20 hours a day doing nothing but waiting on the chance (just the chance) that the player they are watching leaves before winning the $20 in EV banked on a machine.

It’s why I don’t think you see as many American campers.

You would have to have grown up under Mao to think it’s a good way to live.

Probably why in some areas though you see a lot of Mexican campers. It’s still better than picking lettuce.

Asians are exemplary at being these "campers" because for many of them, waiting is ingrained into the fabric of their being.

In Hong Kong they wait 15-20 minutes for skyscraper elevators in lines that often go out to the streets. The wait for public toilets in Shanghai, Beijing, Wuhan, Guangzhou and other of the many larger Chinese cities, is a true lesson in patience. Taipei's restaurant seating delays can cause you to lose your appetite. Tokyo's underground transit system rush hour scramble where there's very little movement at times, becomes a nerve-wracking experience for those in a hurry. Seoul, Korea's legendary gridlock traffic jam waits are long enough that most drivers turn their headlights off at night until they get moving again. And Bangkok's lifestyle is one that's built around learning to wait for basically anything....from all things airport to the traffic to going just about anywhere.

If you think you can out-last these people in a waiting contest, think again.

[mickeycrimm]

When I roamed around the Strip over 20 years ago the Asians were camped out at banks of machines with the machines not even getting any action. There job was to sit there all day watching those machines whether they got action or not. It was their way of discouraging competition.

One day at MGM security lined them all up and marched them out.

[Don Perignom]

Actually Asian campers impress me.

Being able to ​s̵i̵t̵ smoke in a noisy smoke filled casino for 20 hours a day doing nothing but waiting on the chance (just the chance) that the player they are watching leaves before winning the $20 in EV banked on a machine.

The regulars at my local would do it for free.

[tableplay]

Actually Asian campers impress me.

They sure hate it when someone cuts them on a play they were camping for :
https://youtu.be/Qn2DMys-ZSc?t=71

[accountinquestion]

I was watching a guy spin pigs and it was up to like 40. When I sat down I saw no one camping but then this Asian couple sits down beside me and I think they know what I'm going to do also. As soon as the guy gets up or is motioning to get up I stand up looking to slide in there without any real confrontation. At the same time this 4 foot tall woman is coming around the right side of me as it appears the guys getting up from the machine. He didn't sits back down almost like a fake out. I just sit there and laugh for a bit and walk off. Hopefully he hit the pig. I would not do this at a casino that had any value to me or I had any business there. At this particular casino though I had nothing And I am not going to take the confrontation anywhere anyway. Just an exercise on who can slide into the seat the quickest.

At another casino there apparently is some sort of queue system. If you sit down at the bank sweating there is already someone sweating a play then new art in line for the next one. At least that is what one of the non-asian vultures told me

[jbjb]

When I roamed around the Strip over 20 years ago the Asians were camped out at banks of machines with the machines not even getting any action. There job was to sit there all day watching those machines whether they got action or not. It was their way of discouraging competition.

One day at MGM security lined them all up and marched them out.

Save for Cosmo, they are doing squat now. But Cosmo has been sweaty from the day they opened the doors and are the biggest OSN contributor on the strip.

[kewlJ]

But Cosmo has been sweaty from the day they opened the doors and are the biggest OSN contributor on the strip.

At least for blackjack, Cosmo is not just the sweatiest on the strip, but all of Las Vegas. A lot of players think some of the smaller places with sweaty reputations, like El Cortez, South Point and Palace Station are the sweatiest, and these places are sweaty, but none compare to Cosmo because Cosmo reports everything to the databases while the others don't (Palace Station some). Palace Station also is obviously a chain property so any issue there might follow you to other Station properties. But Cosmo is, I believe, the most dangerous location in Vegas for an AP, especially card counter/table players.

And this is why when a guy comes a long claiming to be a higher limit winning Table game player, employing card counting and playing Cosmo, it is very hard to believe such a "story" before you even get into some of the other inconsistencies.

[jbjb]

But Cosmo has been sweaty from the day they opened the doors and are the biggest OSN contributor on the strip.

At least for blackjack, Cosmo is not just the sweatiest on the strip, but all of Las Vegas. A lot of players think some of the smaller places with sweaty reputations, like El Cortez, South Point and Palace Station are the sweatiest, and these places are sweaty, but none compare to Cosmo because Cosmo reports everything to the databases while the others don't (Palace Station some). Palace Station also is obviously a chain property so any issue there might follow you to other Station properties. But Cosmo is, I believe, the most dangerous location in Vegas for an AP, especially card counter/table players.

And this is why when a guy comes a long claiming to be a higher limit winning Table game player, employing card counting and playing Cosmo, it is very hard to believe such a "story" before you even get into some of the other inconsistencies.

Cosmo has also been known to kick out video poker players just checking the pay tables and looking for good ones. They give the excuse that you're "Bonus Checking".

[kewlJ]

You're dead wrong. ZK might have issues, however, he will succeed as an Advantage Player in one way or another. He is young, smart, no drugs etc, has no debt while living in LV for years off of casinos with complete freedom, and now with a $200k Bankroll. Life is good.

Axelwolf, you are fiercely loyal to your friends. Nothing wrong with that.

I wish nothing but the best for ZenKing since he arrived in Vegas. Really, even before that, back on Norm's blackjack forum. BUT, he does exhibit some traits that are very detrimental to an advantage player. Extreme emotions and that sort of thing. You listed some in a later post than I am quoting. That doesn't mean he is headed for failure or anything. Perhaps he is able to compartmentalize and not have these things effect his play and career. I hope so. But it is something he should try to work on for his own good.

[MaxPen]

You're dead wrong. ZK might have issues, however, he will succeed as an Advantage Player in one way or another. He is young, smart, no drugs etc, has no debt while living in LV for years off of casinos with complete freedom, and now with a $200k Bankroll. Life is good.

Axelwolf, you are fiercely loyal to your friends. Nothing wrong with that.

I wish nothing but the best for ZenKing since he arrived in Vegas. Really, even before that, back on Norm's blackjack forum. BUT, he does exhibit some traits that are very detrimental to an advantage player. Extreme emotions and that sort of thing. You listed some in a later post than I am quoting. That doesn't mean he is headed for failure or anything. Perhaps he is able to compartmentalize and not have these things effect his play and career. I hope so. But it is something he should try to work on for his own good.

Nothing is more detrimental than being a lying sack of tunnel dwelling shit....RIP

[kewlJ]

Cosmo has also been known to kick out video poker players just checking the pay tables and looking for good ones. They give the excuse that you're "Bonus Checking".

Interesting. I have never heard that term.

Don't just ordinary players (ploppies) check pay tables looking for at least decent pay tables?

[kewlJ]

Nothing is more detrimental than being a lying sack of tunnel dwelling shit....RIP

Fuck off MaxPen, you asshole. There is nobody on this forum that has lied more than you about more people than you. Not just me and all the stupid lies you say and repeat, but mickeycrimm and almost anyone you decide you don't like.

You are, if not the biggest asshole on this forum, one of the top few.

[MDawg]

The twenty most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in and does not even live in, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (8) the rigged shuffler, (9) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (10) $50K multi hand VP hit, (11) winning a car, (12) the lie about never asking anyone else to prove anything, (13) the lie about knowing attorney Nersesian well or at all, and having him on "speed dial," (14) lies that made it clear that he has never filed taxes as a professional gambler, (15) fabricated sports bets, (16) lies about that he has calculated his exact "expected win" over a decade and a half period, (17) lies about ever playing blackjack other than red green chip action as cover for a sugar daddy hustle, (18) lies about the "oily" surfboard, (19) lied about whether or not he was gay, (20) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!

[kewlJ]

Mdawg, the things on your list are just your opinion. You can choose to believe whatever you want, but that doesn't make it fact.

I don't believe ANY of your now about 1000 reports of daily winnings over the last 5 years. I could make a similar list of 1000 entries for you.

More telling is I offered to prove a couple of the things on your list by inviting Dan Druff to my home, which would enable him to verify where I live. Included with that offer is I would log onto my bank account and show Druff where the electronic deposit from my settlement this past summer. All that I required from you was that you release Michael Shackleford from the DNA and allow him to say whatever he thinks. You didn't and couldn't accept that offer because it would have been the immediate end to the great Mdawg adventure/scam.

So just shut the fuck up, you Arab lying pussy.

[MDawg]

MDawg already challenged you to the point you could have doubled your made up settlement. He really owes you no response until you prove that even one bit piece of anything you claim has merit.
How about just a pic of the surfboard with the "fuck you Max" sign on it? You don't even have to cart your fraud ass to the pool that doesn't exist in the tunnels.

We all are waiting. That should take all of two minutes to get done.

[jbjb]

Cosmo has also been known to kick out video poker players just checking the pay tables and looking for good ones. They give the excuse that you're "Bonus Checking".

Interesting. I have never heard that term.

Don't just ordinary players (ploppies) check pay tables looking for at least decent pay tables?

Most don't check pay tables. They just go to their favorite game (usually DDB), insert money and bang away.

[kewlJ]

That is correct. I am not interested in ANY thing that would have me publicly reveal any more information about myself, providing Mdog to further use any information to harm me or my career. My proposal would not have me reveal anything publicly...only to someone I trust like Dan Druff, who would then verify, but not reveal, that information.

I think that is a pretty big concession on my part and all I ask in exchange is to allow Wizard, Michael Shackleford, a gambling and gambling math expert, to speak his mind. I mean that shouldn't be something that even need be negotiated. Why on earth was there EVER a NDA preventing him from doing so? That can only mean MDawg was always afraid of the truth and Wizard stating the truth. It would mean the end of this silly adventure/scam.

[kewlJ]

Cosmo has also been known to kick out video poker players just checking the pay tables and looking for good ones. They give the excuse that you're "Bonus Checking".

Interesting. I have never heard that term.

Don't just ordinary players (ploppies) check pay tables looking for at least decent pay tables?

Most don't check pay tables. They just go to their favorite game (usually DDB), insert money and bang away.

When Cosmo opened, one of the top people in their surveillance department came from South Point/El Cortez origins and he brought the very sweaty mentality with him. Cosmo took it a step further by becoming one of the most active database contributors, where as the other two aren't.

Now I haven't kept up with personnel and have no idea if that person is still there or has moved on. But doesn't really matter as that mentality, is still in place. Even as they were swallowed up by MGM, that mentality remained.

Valley Forge Casino, in Pa, also hired someone from that same branch with that same mentality and identical to Cosmo became extremely sweaty AND a big database contributor. Similarly, Vally Forge was gobbled up by Boyd and I have no idea if that person remains, but that mentality does remain.

[MDawg]

Kewlj you do have a good imagination and a script that you stick to.

FraudJ had a highly refined blackjack story that he worked for almost 2 decades before he outed himself as the tunnel dwelling male prostitute fraud that he is.

you are a very good fictional storyteller lol KJ is a fictional Author masquerading on gambling boards as a sophisticated multi table blackjack savant. :

You don’t make a living playing blackjack tho. That the problem I have with you. Instead of just coming clean and saying you have sugar daddies some that like you others you have extorted you keep up the charade.