Unless something dramatic happens, I'll finish third (out of 500 or so) in the NorthBet Pick the Pros contest. The contest features no point spreads per se, but you get weighted points for being correct. Picking underdogs yields more points.
Can't complain about third; I got plenty of toss-up games wrong early in the season.
P.S. Just to be clear, my entry would be the one in third named "redietz." I'd hate for "APs" to be confused, so I thought I'd point that out.
Ah, again, but contests are for grade school. And, there are only so many problems with elegant solutions. In other words, getting good at the contests is a per se pursuit, only for the sake of itself.
Deep down, we all want to stay in grade school, but, life can't guarantee such security.
Ah, a philosophical response. Well, if you'll notice, most of these contests are available to anybody in the public who wants to play. So, year after year, I simply enter and report results. Anybody can enter. Very dry; very Dragnet. Very much also, "I can do this, and you can't."Originally Posted by 1Hit1der
To say that the contests are a pursuit without application shows how little you understand. It takes about three neurons to figure out that if someone is killing a no-spread contest, they are likely also killing moneyline wagers involving toss-up games. That's the obvious if unstated consequence of consistently outperforming 95% and up of the public in these no-spread contests. What I love is that, despite these unstated consequences being obvious, they remain unstated by the luminaries here.
It's unquestioned that Max and account and Axel and so on all understand the direct gambling implications of outperforming almost everyone at picking toss-up NFL games. But rather than pointing out the obvious real-world applications, they've spent virtually every post pooh-poohing the "contest results." It's pretty funny. As "APs," they are undoubtedly aware of the real-world gambling applications and consequences.
Probably, it's the older guys who kill the contests, because they've learned all of the thus tricks. A big difference between answering a question well beyond one's faculty, and, already knowing the trick. On the other hand, probably, it's the younger guys, with the time and energy, drive, learning curve, and, connections, who work the actual sports betting.
For sure, most of the professional school guys work for relative peanuts with little or no say in anything. Ever wonder that the Oppenheimer's of the world never came to rule it? Just a bunch of schoolboy bozos.
Caught a bit of the Jane Goodall interview, last evening. She said that the problem with the world is still our fascination with money. 100% agree. And, that that will always be the case.
P.S. If I'm wrong, then it would have been so easy for you to post up a month's results in the real world, twenty years ago, than to spend those years here and there, to try to prove things out the other way.
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Putting aside the questions of whether your record has the significance you suggest it does, and why you are so keen to impress people you profess to disdain, why not brag about what actually do rather than what you can do?
I'm pretty sure that Red thinks that it's all going to turn around now, as soon as the old man gives him the next installment on the taxes to pay. Ha. There was a guy at GF's, Gizmo, who was all hooray, years ago, after the inheritance from an uncle, but, he's disappeared, again.
Finished third in NorthBet. Rallied to finish 43rd in Heritage Race to the Super Bowl, but just top 25 cashed. I won the Race to the Super Bowl about 10 years ago, with 25K in SB wagers as the prize. Will cash in Topbet, which I won last year versus 1200 contestants. Headed into the final week 20th out of 900 this year. Might move up a bit; waiting on final standings.
AP's poo-poo the free contests because they understand they don't have the expertise. Don't let that go to your head, ditz. You are full time sports bettor and nothing else. On your way into the sportsbooks you've walked by multi-millions of dollars in expectation from the rest of the casino. You were completely oblivious to it. But typical of egotists you think you are superior to AP's. That's why you don't get any respect.
From an outsider looking in my questions about the free contests is what is the cost/benefit? How much time do you spend on it? What kind of hourly rate do you have? Should one spend their time working rollover money or free contests? Which pays better?
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"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Don't let the naysayers get you down.Originally Posted by redietz
You doing great!
You crushing the book for 40 years and...
You slurp noodles with your Slant-Eyed Girlfriend who crushes the Ponies!
Life is Good.
Not a big deal, monet. I post this stuff because it gives civilians a sense of how difficult or not some of these things are. They are also available to just about everyone, so any hotshot on various forums can do the same and report how well they did. Essentially, the non-spread contests are a test of moneyline skills. Heritage is a combination of moneyline judgement and totals. All of that is obvious, but it takes some folks a few years to figure it out.
A single entry winning the TopBet contest last year is a bigger feather skill-wise than shepherding an overwhelming number of coordinated entries in something like the Circa Survivor contest. Winning Circa is primarily, as they call it in economics and anthropology, using an economy of scale, where number of entries (or number of acres in farming) provides increasing advantages that are not simply arithmetic, but lean towards logarithmic. Some poor sap not part of the coordinated cartel is at a horrendous disadvantage compared to the coordinated entries. The old Barbary Coast contest in LV had 30K entries each year. Well, 1100 were coordinated by a local business owner who recruited employees, friends, and relatives. I shepherded between 32 and 64 entries each year myself. I think, for the two decades we did it, we failed to make a profit twice. Now think what 1100 entries managed to accomplish.
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