The Winner Is?

[MDawg]

I don't want to hear some heroic noble BS about how nobody's going to run me off BS. I'm not an idiot, that's not what this is about.

If I had to ask myself and wonder why someone would stay and keep taking a pounding while taking into account all the bad things they claim have happened to them....

I would have to guess that it's all BS, therefore nothing bad has ever happened to them, and therefore there's no real reason to leave/ stop.

And I gotta argue, as a final point, that from a probability perspective, the kewlJ-as-male-whore angle isn't all that nuts. When you ask yourself what's more likely, male escort posing as blackjack player, or blackjack player making it for a decade at 100K a year in LV itself, the former is more likely.

[kewlJ]

Anyway, you people carry on with your little miss congeniality, popularity contest. That is all this poll is and I have never cared one iota about who likes me or doesn't on these forums.

[MDawg]

When I think of people who don't care what other people are saying about them on the Internet... I think of kewlJ.

Poor poor KJ. Always the victim.

[MisterV]

Anyway, you people carry on with your little miss congeniality, popularity contest. That is all this poll is and I have never cared one iota about who likes me or doesn't on these forums.

Ditto.

I don't post to make friends or influence people.

Posting is a social outlet: interacting with others is not a bad thing, and these forums can be quite entertaining.

[soxfan]

The biden-spike is a bulls-shits artist to be sure but the boy is the one tricked pony and only tell talls-tale about his roulettes foolishness. By contrast, the kewl-J lie about anything and everything under a sun, hey hey!!!!

[1Hit1der]

Truly screwing around requires no explanation. Ha.

[smurgerburger]

Anyway, you people carry on with your little miss congeniality, popularity contest. That is all this poll is and I have never cared one iota about who likes me or doesn't on these forums.

Ditto.

I don't post to make friends or influence people.

Posting is a social outlet: interacting with others is not a bad thing, and these forums can be quite entertaining.

So did you notice his post claiming his backrooming was covered by multiple TV news sources?

Any thoughts on that?

[MisterV]

Anyway, you people carry on with your little miss congeniality, popularity contest. That is all this poll is and I have never cared one iota about who likes me or doesn't on these forums.

Ditto.

I don't post to make friends or influence people.

Posting is a social outlet: interacting with others is not a bad thing, and these forums can be quite entertaining.

So did you notice his post claiming his backrooming was covered by multiple TV news sources?

Any thoughts on that?

No, I don't recall seeing it...how about a link to it?

[smurgerburger]

I'm bad at forums I guess you can find it here: https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post171145

This is what prompted soxfan to start this poll.

[MisterV]

I'm bad at forums I guess you can find it here: https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post171145

This is what prompted soxfan to start this poll.

The link..."In the case of the reporter than contacted me, she was given my name. I told her I didn't want to comment and explained why, but they still ran my name in the story. There was a story at a second station days later that did not include my name. That second story focused more on the casino actions. Both had video of the incident and it was not supplied by me or my attorney. Only other place it could have come from was someone at the casino involved."

So KJ, you are sayng that the story ran on at least two different news outlets?

And the video was broadcast?

Funny that no LV locals claim to have seen it; can you clarify, i.e. perhaps name the news outlet and the date the story ran so it can be verified?

If not ... why not?

The cat's out of the bag, so what have you got to lose?

You only would gain credibility by providing the requested info.

Ponder on this for awhile...

[soxfan]

At this point I think that the onus is on the kewl-J to pony up and provide proof that one or a couple of local news outlet made mention of his alleged backed-room incident. If he does then at least we can all give him credits for being truths-full about something, hey hey.

[kewlJ]

The link..."In the case of the reporter than contacted me, she was given my name. I told her I didn't want to comment and explained why, but they still ran my name in the story. There was a story at a second station days later that did not include my name. That second story focused more on the casino actions. Both had video of the incident and it was not supplied by me or my attorney. Only other place it could have come from was someone at the casino involved."

So KJ, you are sayng that the story ran on at least two different news outlets?

And the video was broadcast?

Funny that no LV locals claim to have seen it; can you clarify, i.e. perhaps name the news outlet and the date the story ran so it can be verified?

If not ... why not?

The cat's out of the bag, so what have you got to lose?

You only would gain credibility by providing the requested info.

Ponder on this for awhile...

MrV, think about what you are suggesting.

When this incident initially occurred, my first inclination was to not pursue anything because I didn't want my name and identity revealed. I was almost willing to give up what turned out to be a fairly easy settlement to protect my identity. I changed my mind when I was convinced by both my attorney and members on this very forum, as well as an AP who had his own history with such a case, that there was a good chance I could get a settlement and still protect my identity. And that is exactly what happened.

I probably could have gotten a bigger settlement or award had I pursue the case to the end, which would have involved giving up my identity. I chose not to do that and got what I could fairly early in the process.

Once I was contacted, I then even lied about the lawsuit, when there was no lawsuit, only settlement discussions, to distract away from this very story that I knew was coming.

And now you are saying I should link to or direct people to this story and the very information I sought to protect the whole time? For what? Because some trolls on the internet are requesting/demanding that? I don't think so.

This all came to life again when Mdawg quite erroneously claimed that the story never made the news. I responded with a "don't be so sure Nancy". Probably should have left it at that. But I am certainly not going to help anyone find this information that I have fought to protect.

As for no other AP's having seen it: I will respond to that by saying "don't be so sure MrV." (I won't call you Nancy). A more accurate statement would be of the handful of AP's and members of this forum that live in Vegas, either no one saw it, or probably more likely, no one said anything. And that was something I was worried about at the time.

So I will go back to the original thing said that brought this to life again. Mdawg claims no story made the news. My response continues to be "don't be so sure, Nancy".

[kewlJ]

Soxfan, Onus is defined as duty or responsibility. Newsflash: It isn't my duty or responsibility or a requirement that I prove anything because some trolls on an internet forum are demanding it. Especially something that reveals my identity and can be damaging to my livelihood. I don't know what universe some of your people live in.

[soxfan]

If the kewl-J don't wanna divulge the bean to everyone on the forum he can at least provide proofs to the Dan Druff then he can report back to us cats on here that the kewl-J was playin it straight, hey hey.

[kewlJ]

If the kewl-J don't wanna divulge the bean to everyone on the forum he can at least provide proofs to the Dan Druff then he can report back to us cats on here that the kewl-J was playin it straight, hey hey.

I proposed this several months ago. In exchange for Mdawg releasing Michael Shackleford from the NDA and allowing him to speak his mind about Mdawg, what he saw, and what he really thinks, I would have Dan Druff over to my home, show him my condo, proving where I live, show him the settlement paperwork, log onto my bank account so he could see when the settlement money was deposited, proving some of these things that you trolls have been lying about. I chose Druff because I trust he wouldn't reveal my identity or anything I don't want revealed.

I made this proposal multiple times over several weeks. Mdawg would not agree to it. I am sure it is obvious why he would not agree to this simple exchange. It would have been the end of the great Mdawg adventure fairytale.

So talk to Mdawg, soxfan.

[kewlJ]

One final thing about this case, that I don't know if I am even allowed to voice my opinion about. I was not thrilled with the outcome of this case. Yes I received a settlement worth several years of my average earnings. That was nice. But that settlement was more or less like a personal injury type settlement. And that is not what I wanted this case to be about. I wanted the casino and casino personnel held responsible for happened on the casino floor as much as what happened in the backroom. I wanted it to be about the illegal detention and illegal arrest (because that is what it was), so other casinos would stop doing this kind of shit. But it became clear for that to come about I would have needed to go the distance and give up my identity.

And one of the selling points to me to settle for what I could get, was that the NGC, would probably take a look at this incident and issue their own penalty or fine to the casino.....an extra punitive type thing. Now almost a year after the initial incident and 6 months after the settlement, I see no evidence of that type of thing occurring. But then again, the NGC has never really been on the side of the players have they?

[MaxPen]

I'm busy right now. But I will put my hip waders on for all this bullshit and be back later....lol

MrV you still sticking with your boy on this?....

[smurgerburger]

Not that it should be necessary to even address this, but between Twitter, Discord, multiple forums, Google, even the r/Vegas subreddit there is absolutely no chance that a backrooming story would make the news without word of it getting back here.

[kewlJ]

Oh good. MaxPen is back on the case.

[accountinquestion]

One final thing about this case, that I don't know if I am even allowed to voice my opinion about. I was not thrilled with the outcome of this case. Yes I received a settlement worth several years of my average earnings. That was nice. But that settlement was more or less like a personal injury type settlement. And that is not what I wanted this case to be about. I wanted the casino and casino personnel held responsible for happened on the casino floor as much as what happened in the backroom. I wanted it to be about the illegal detention and illegal arrest (because that is what it was), so other casinos would stop doing this kind of shit. But it became clear for that to come about I would have needed to go the distance and give up my identity.

And one of the selling points to me to settle for what I could get, was that the NGC, would probably take a look at this incident and issue their own penalty or fine to the casino.....an extra punitive type thing. Now almost a year after the initial incident and 6 months after the settlement, I see no evidence of that type of thing occurring. But then again, the NGC has never really been on the side of the players have they?

Originally you didn't even want to sue them but then after everyone on here gave you shit you acted like you did. Now you are claiming you never wanted the money but wanted them held accountable? Huh? What? People pushed you into suing them because of $$ but now you have flipped that all around.

You lie so much you can barely keep it all straight.

For a fruitcake you sure are one grade-A dumbass. I didn't even know God made fruitcakes so fucking dense.

FraudJ, do you have ANY redeeming qualities? I'm at a loss. Spewing bullshit 24/7 doesn't cut it.

You've never given any way to ever verify anything you've said outside of this claim of the public record which didn't exist. This news thing is basically the same thing. 0 chance no one can find it. There just isn't a very big pool of news outlets who would ever cover such a thing. It is obvious it never happened just like about everything else you have claimed.