Advantage Keno Play

[1Hit1der]

This, of course, lowers its value tremendously, due to low availability. But when you do find it under the right circumstances, it could be excellent.

Which is what I first suspect of each and every one of Crimm's plays, which amount only to some perceived edge. But, now we know for certain, that Crimm didn't include the obvious with that supposed 216% play, that such gets heavily watered down, if reasonably possible at all. Thanks for that much, Mr. UKnowMe. Specific solid evidence of a nutty, if not total fraud, Crimm. Yeah, sure, you can win by counting cards at baccarat if you wait through a 100 shoes, and, then, bet $50,000 on tie on a couple of hands at the end of the "golden shoe". To make, maybe, $10, a very tiny fraction of the commission on those winning bets.

And, in general, say, that Crimm is still spending his days, at seventy, on the road in the winter. I mean, why in the world, still only trying to make money, by then? Same as the Wizard squandering his remaining days on this Earth at that forum, for absolutely nothing but howls of laughter. And, yes, they found scribbled handwritten notes in Einstein's bed - he was still sweating it out, trying to prove that Relatively Theory was the Theory of Everything (TOE) - when he died, a form of dementia, by then, with evermore complex and complicated insoluble calculations.

[Mission146]

This, of course, lowers its value tremendously, due to low availability. But when you do find it under the right circumstances, it could be excellent.

Which is what I first suspect of each and every one of Crimm's plays, which amount only to some perceived edge. But, now we know for certain, that Crimm didn't include the obvious with that supposed 216% play, that such gets heavily watered down, if reasonably possible at all. Thanks for that much, Mr. UKnowMe. Specific solid evidence of a nutty, if not total fraud, Crimm. Yeah, sure, you can win by counting cards at baccarat if you wait through a 100 shoes, and, then, bet $50,000 on tie on a couple of hands at the end of the "golden shoe". To make, maybe, $10, a very tiny fraction of the commission on those winning bets.

And, in general, say, that Crimm is still spending his days, at seventy, on the road in the winter. I mean, why in the world, still only trying to make money, by then? Same as the Wizard squandering his remaining days on this Earth at that forum, for absolutely nothing but howls of laughter. And, yes, they found scribbled handwritten notes in Einstein's bed - he was still sweating it out, trying to prove that Relatively Theory was the Theory of Everything (TOE) - when he died, a form of dementia, by then, with evermore complex and complicated insoluble calculations.

The majority of Crimm's plays don't rely on a, 'Perceived edge,' they rely on a calculable edge. Keno is a fairly easy game to determine the house or player advantage, most of the time. The only games that would be extremely difficult to figure out either:

A.) Have a ton of moving parts. (But can be figured out)

B.) Have a random element that's not strictly calculable.

C.) Have a game element that causes the balls to not strictly adhere to natural probabilities.

Both B and C are rare, but they would make a Keno game very difficult to crack if there was even a potential advantage to be had.

In any event, Crimm's plays are going to be pretty frequent because, where this sounds like it might be one sometimes-available opportunity at a single casino, Crimm has several different games that he knows and there are machines with those games all over the place.

Who's talking about counting Baccarat?

And, what? Here you are trying and failing to prove some sort of point that never made much sense to begin with...all these years later. Having the same discussions about the same topics with the same people. And, what have you gained? Nothing. Poking and prodding people endlessly on a topic that you probably could, but deliberately choose not to, understand. At least, all those years ago, you didn't talk purely out of your ass.

[unowme]

This, of course, lowers its value tremendously, due to low availability. But when you do find it under the right circumstances, it could be excellent.

Which is what I first suspect of each and every one of Crimm's plays, which amount only to some perceived edge. But, now we know for certain, that Crimm didn't include the obvious with that supposed 216% play, that such gets heavily watered down, if reasonably possible at all. Thanks for that much, Mr. UKnowMe. Specific solid evidence of a nutty, if not total fraud, Crimm. Yeah, sure, you can win by counting cards at baccarat if you wait through a 100 shoes, and, then, bet $50,000 on tie on a couple of hands at the end of the "golden shoe". To make, maybe, $10, a very tiny fraction of the commission on those winning bets.

And, in general, say, that Crimm is still spending his days, at seventy, on the road in the winter. I mean, why in the world, still only trying to make money, by then? Same as the Wizard squandering his remaining days on this Earth at that forum, for absolutely nothing but howls of laughter. And, yes, they found scribbled handwritten notes in Einstein's bed - he was still sweating it out, trying to prove that Relatively Theory was the Theory of Everything (TOE) - when he died, a form of dementia, by then, with evermore complex and complicated insoluble calculations.

What the hell is this guy's malfunction?

I asked Mickey and Dan to confirm that I had in fact found an advantaged play. They both did. Mickey's calculation about the advantage was actually identical to mine. Dan also said "It could be excellent". There are lots of advantage plays where certain conditions have to be met before it swings to positive EV. So really, dude. Why are you attacking Mickeycrimm? Is it something personal? Life's too short to hold a grudge.

My good friend who was with me when I discovered this play is a Professor of Mathematics. I own a small software company that focuses on advanced analytics and predictive modeling for business management. We are not professional gamblers, but we both know the math. That's why we were both shocked when we saw what was happening.

Instead of attacking a fellow board member who was actually very helpful, maybe you should focus your talents on coming up with a formula for pulling your head out of your ass.

[accountinquestion]

This, of course, lowers its value tremendously, due to low availability. But when you do find it under the right circumstances, it could be excellent.

Which is what I first suspect of each and every one of Crimm's plays, which amount only to some perceived edge. But, now we know for certain, that Crimm didn't include the obvious with that supposed 216% play, that such gets heavily watered down, if reasonably possible at all. Thanks for that much, Mr. UKnowMe. Specific solid evidence of a nutty, if not total fraud, Crimm. Yeah, sure, you can win by counting cards at baccarat if you wait through a 100 shoes, and, then, bet $50,000 on tie on a couple of hands at the end of the "golden shoe". To make, maybe, $10, a very tiny fraction of the commission on those winning bets.

And, in general, say, that Crimm is still spending his days, at seventy, on the road in the winter. I mean, why in the world, still only trying to make money, by then? Same as the Wizard squandering his remaining days on this Earth at that forum, for absolutely nothing but howls of laughter. And, yes, they found scribbled handwritten notes in Einstein's bed - he was still sweating it out, trying to prove that Relatively Theory was the Theory of Everything (TOE) - when he died, a form of dementia, by then, with evermore complex and complicated insoluble calculations.

What the hell is this guy's malfunction?

I asked Mickey and Dan to confirm that I had in fact found an advantaged play. They both did. Mickey's calculation about the advantage was actually identical to mine. Dan also said "It could be excellent". There are lots of advantage plays where certain conditions have to be met before it swings to positive EV. So really, dude. Why are you attacking Mickeycrimm? Is it something personal? Life's too short to hold a grudge.

My good friend who was with me when I discovered this play is a Professor of Mathematics. I own a small software company that focuses on advanced analytics and predictive modeling for business management. We are not professional gamblers, but we both know the math. That's why we were both shocked when we saw what was happening.

Instead of attacking a fellow board member who was actually very helpful, maybe you should focus your talents on coming up with a formula for pulling your head out of your ass.

Most people have learned to ignore him. I barely read his posts and usually only after someone else found it worth reading.

[1Hit1der]

The majority of Crimm's plays don't rely on a, 'Perceived edge,' they rely on a calculable edge.

Until Crimm presents actual mathematics credentials, other than a page from some slots book that he read, many years ago, I must assume that every thing he thus writes is on the basis of perception.

In any event, Crimm's plays are going to be pretty frequent because, where this sounds like it might be one sometimes-available opportunity at a single casino, Crimm has several different games that he knows and there are machines with those games all over the place.

But, say, how long does it take to build up such a repertoire, and, by then, how many of those plays have vanished? No, again, it sounds very much as though Crimm is as trapped as Einstein was to bring around the unwieldy by definition. What you call a slippery slope, which is, at best, avoided to begin.

At least, all those years ago, you didn't talk purely out of your ass.

Win on a gambling forum - I'm down to only VCT, for many years - by not lying, however. Otherwise, have a bit of fun, find a suitable style, and, try to relate things to one's own life because every one just keeps talking away without really noticing the other. Certainly, the last thing to do is to write biased-at-best nervous, without thus credentials, internet gambling-essays, with five-minute shelf lives.

Incidentally, I no longer bother with the anagrams, for fun, after the perfect pair at the right time, but, here's one that I noticed a while back (kept to myself). As usual, weirdly though, quite apt even if daft.

Think money, Bill. Think money. That’s the value of my knowledge of keno, lots of money.

---> Don't Believe the Things They Tell You (They Lie).

https://anagram-solver.net/Think%20m...0?partial=true


My very own development of the anagrams with gematria - a totally unique discovery, as far as I know, which is pretty far in that world - helped me greatly with the symmetry breaking of mathematics. For sure, no one at the professional math forums would indulge me on any of that, and, as it turned out, all of them thus fooled, all of the time. To the point that I was able to satisfactorily complete my very own TOE, with bits and pieces already posted on this forum only. V accused me of spouting off about it here instead of where it belongs, but, I was on the forums for a lot longer than I've mentioned it here, and, there's a big difference between mentioning bits of it, and, submitting a properly cleaned-up full version for peer review (publication). Especially while carrying on with the other work, prior obligations, at hand.

[Don Perignom]

Specific solid evidence of a nutty, if not total fraud, Crimm.

Give me the shittiest take you have.

[1Hit1der]

Most people have learned to ignore him. I barely read his posts and usually only after someone else found it worth reading.

That you think it comes down to something like that, well, continues to say a lot more about you, than it can about me. The guy who thinks that it matters who's watching him not follow through with anything, anyway. Ha.

Damn! I'm so glad that I kept up appearances on the forum(s). To watch the flailing and failing such fools. (Not Don.)

[1Hit1der]

Originally posted by Don Perignom ...

Specific solid evidence of a nutty, if not total fraud, Crimm.

Give me the shittiest take you have.

---> Sleights of Mind: What the Neuroscience of Magic Reveals about Our Everyday Deceptions.

https://anagram-solver.net/%20Origin...e?partial=true


Don, I'm sorry, but you must be totally in sync with the universe, to lead me to such wonderful anagrams. But, such is the world of gambling, once you see through the bullshit.

[Don Perignom]

Don, I'm sorry, but you must be totally in sync with the universe, to lead me to such wonderful anagrams.

I was this close to writing "crappiest" instead of "shittiest."

[jdog]

maybe you should focus your talents on coming up with a formula for pulling your head out of your ass.

Nicely done...

[1Hit1der]

maybe you should focus your talents on coming up with a formula for pulling your head out of your ass.

Nicely done...

At least it's a matter of that, with me, with a real prize on the wheel. But, with the Crimm's of the world, it can't be more than a pathetic self-parody. Yeah, man, he's the greatest slot pro, ever. Ha. Gambling his life away on a sure loser.

Which reminds me of the Wizard's excursions to cheap places like useless bars in Germany, thinking that the world is watching, that he's still the big man over there. He was never anything but the autistic joke of Vegas.

Gee, what an outpouring of dismay when old, Garnabby caught on to that, right away. But, years later, over at the Gamblers Glen, and other forums, how they forgot when they turned on the Wizard, at which point they became as big a joke.

[1Hit1der]

Don, I'm sorry, but you must be totally in sync with the universe, to lead me to such wonderful anagrams.

I was this close to writing "crappiest" instead of "shittiest."

And with a sense of humor, too. Ha.

[MisterV]

Instead of attacking a fellow board member who was actually very helpful, maybe you should focus your talents on coming up with a formula for pulling your head out of your ass.

Maybe YOU should "put up or shut up," Mr. "I discovered a winning play but I'm not sure I'll share it with you..."

[smurgerburger]

Mr. V seems rather agitated by the possibility that one might gamble with an edge.

[unowme]

Instead of attacking a fellow board member who was actually very helpful, maybe you should focus your talents on coming up with a formula for pulling your head out of your ass.

Maybe YOU should "put up or shut up," Mr. "I discovered a winning play but I'm not sure I'll share it with you..."

Ok gentlemen. I asked for a show of hands and the following members raised theirs:

accountinquestion
coach belly
jdog

You will each receive a private message in the next 24 hours with a description of what I found. I only ask that you not reveal it publicly and if you happen upon it sometime in the future, you report back here that it worked for you.

I would like to thank both Dan and Mickey for taking the time to look at Alan's Oddball Keno Exploit (that's it's new name). And with that I'm out of here and back to my real work. Perhaps I'll check back at some point to weigh in on one of the many life changing topics here. In any event, I wish you all Good Health and Good Luck!

unowme---AKA AlanLeroy.

[jdog]

unowme your comebacks are well crafted. This one gave me a nice laugh!

FWIW - I agree to the conditions as stated.

[MisterV]

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[1Hit1der]

Mr. V seems rather agitated by the possibility that one might gamble with an edge.

Ah, but purely recreational players are allowed to take up any gambling stance or mindset that suits them, on an individual level. For example, if MDawg wants to pretend that he's the greatest baccarat player, ever, and, always wins, then why not, given that he, very likely, paid handsomely for his very own "casino experience".

AP's just can't see that not even they, themselves, give a fuck about each other.

[AxelWolf]

Live Keno? Very few places offer that now.

One must assume some type of promotion. Extra on jackpots once a month or whatever.

[Dan Druff]

Don't worry too much about 1hit1der, aka Bill Yung/Garnabby/etc

Very weird guy, lots of bizarre theories, obsession with numerology...

As I said, the play seems very real and very advantageous, but "availability" is an issue.

Value of a play takes on various factors -- player edge, variance, availability, ability to run without heat, and length of time before likely disappearance.

The most valuable plays are ones which are immediately available 24/7, open to everyone, low variance, low heat, and one which is likely to stay around awhile. Such plays are very rare nowadays.