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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    It could be given here without stating the casino. That would do lots towards not neutering the play. Seems like most exploiting would be done by math at all levels which makes me wondethus. why this is so strange.

    But yes reach out to Rob Singer. Outside of tableplay he is the most solid mathematician on here. Speaking of Singer I was going to ask him to give us another peek into his life as this place has become rather dead.
    Yeah, the tunnel dwelling surfer male prostitute fraud pretty much went full retard with his latest claims about 2 news stations featuring his backroom story. Despite being the number one liar he certainly lacks the entertainment factor Singer has.
    We may be at the point where I think the boy has worn down Singer. Mdawg's quote machine still has a strong work ethic.

    What kewl does is like the eternal spring of bullshit. At some point you'll realize you're just going to drown in it.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  2. #22
    I enjoy KJ's posts.

    They have a good beat and I can dance to them; I give them an 88.
    What, Me Worry?

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    What kewl does is like the eternal spring of bullshit. At some point you'll realize you're just going to drown in it.
    Just ignore it, and, the responses, especially from you, to be able to get on with life. Ha.
    Upping my game. Ha.


    Gambling will addict some of the people, some of the time, but, deludes all of the people, all of the time.
    ---> O, tell me the, tell me the list of "doped up" people out of left field who claimed to be a gambling messiah.


    No matter where you go, there you are!
    ---> O! Gee, turn the other way. You are more.


    My final, final anagram with gematria, https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post171878

  4. #24
    You guys that have revived history and find Rob Singers 20 year agenda comic genius are not remembering what really occured.

    First if Rob's story was true that he discovered the double up bug and everything else was a cover-up for that well there are several things that prove that not so.

    1) his ridiculous claims, complete with weekly column and writing of books started at least 5 years before Rob claims to have discover the double up. Perhaps Rob along with his telepathing abilities to communicate with VP machines, also has some sort of ability to see into the future and this started planning this cover-up or deflect 5 years prior to finding the double up bug.

    2) Rob continues to push these other stupid shit and claims, even today, so it wasn't just to deflect.

    3) Rob wrote a book with his nonsense for God sakes.

    Now for those that dismiss Rob's 20 years as not real but now seem to want to give him some sort of credit for comic genius, Yes it would have been comic genius if that is what occurred. But again, the writing of the book and continuing even today, disproves the comic genius idea. I am afraid to burst your bubble, but there is no comic genius at play. Just a guy that wanted to win against the casinos, failed and tried to convince everyone else for decades.

    And was the retirement plan of living off his kids part of that comic genius plan?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    You guys that have revived history and find Rob Singers 20 year agenda comic genius are not remembering what really occured.

    First if Rob's story was true that he discovered the double up bug and everything else was a cover-up for that well there are several things that prove that not so.

    1) his ridiculous claims, complete with weekly column and writing of books started at least 5 years before Rob claims to have discover the double up. Perhaps Rob along with his telepathing abilities to communicate with VP machines, also has some sort of ability to see into the future and this started planning this cover-up or deflect 5 years prior to finding the double up bug.

    2) Rob continues to push these other stupid shit and claims, even today, so it wasn't just to deflect.

    3) Rob wrote a book with his nonsense for God sakes.

    Now for those that dismiss Rob's 20 years as not real but now seem to want to give him some sort of credit for comic genius, Yes it would have been comic genius if that is what occurred. But again, the writing of the book and continuing even today, disproves the comic genius idea. I am afraid to burst your bubble, but there is no comic genius at play. Just a guy that wanted to win against the casinos, failed and tried to convince everyone else for decades.

    And was the retirement plan of living off his kids part of that comic genius plan?
    Please start you own "I hate Singer thread". This one is for advantage players who are interested in my Amazing New Keno Play.
    Last edited by unowme; 01-19-2024 at 02:31 PM.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    "A huge advantage play in a live keno game?"

    You think you found a way to overcome the 25% house percentage?

    Do tell...

    *This ought to be good.*
    My play changes the odds from a theoretical 75% expected payback to >200% expected return. Yeah. It's huge.

  7. #27
    OK, I'll bite...exactly WHAT is this play you are trumpeting?
    Last edited by MisterV; 01-19-2024 at 03:12 PM.
    What, Me Worry?

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    OK, I'll bite...exactly WHAT is this play you are trumpeting?
    As I mentioned earlier, I sent the play to Dan to see if he agrees that I observed "a really interesting phenomenon that could potentially be exploited". We'll just wait to see what he says about it.

  9. #29
    Yeah, I read that...but we don't need a gate keeper.
    What, Me Worry?

  10. #30
    I know more keno advantage plays than any AP who has ever lived.

    Here's one I posted on Twitter because it's just about extinct so I don't mind exposing it:

    https://twitter.com/#!/x/status/1743987115283853635
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #31
    yeah send it to Mickey.
    Last edited by jdog; 01-19-2024 at 06:15 PM.

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I know more keno advantage plays than any AP who has ever lived.
    That's sort of a self-defeating claim like 0^0 = 1, the mathematical notion that something comes of nothing. I guess, a ripple, on the quantum-fluctuation level, that led to the supposed spontaneous generation of the universe. But, in our realm, nothing remains nothing. Ha.

    I mean, a sort of greatness without any true meaning, or value (outside of yourself).
    Upping my game. Ha.


    Gambling will addict some of the people, some of the time, but, deludes all of the people, all of the time.
    ---> O, tell me the, tell me the list of "doped up" people out of left field who claimed to be a gambling messiah.


    No matter where you go, there you are!
    ---> O! Gee, turn the other way. You are more.


    My final, final anagram with gematria, https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post171878

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by 1Hit1der View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I know more keno advantage plays than any AP who has ever lived.
    That's sort of a self-defeating claim like 0^0 = 1, the mathematical notion that something comes of nothing. I guess, a ripple, on the quantum-fluctuation level, that led to the supposed spontaneous generation of the universe. But, in our realm, nothing remains nothing. Ha.

    I mean, a sort of greatness without any true meaning, or value (outside of yourself).
    Au contraire mon ami. mickycrimm's suggestion that he has great knowledge of advantage keno plays is both very pertinent and potentially valuable to advancing this thread....It might even change the course history....at least in this universe. If I don't get a comment back from Dan, I hope micky would agree to take a look at my play before I either post it for all to see or give it away more selectively.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    Originally Posted by 1Hit1der View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I know more keno advantage plays than any AP who has ever lived.
    That's sort of a self-defeating claim like 0^0 = 1, the mathematical notion that something comes of nothing. I guess, a ripple, on the quantum-fluctuation level, that led to the supposed spontaneous generation of the universe. But, in our realm, nothing remains nothing. Ha.

    I mean, a sort of greatness without any true meaning, or value (outside of yourself).
    Au contraire mon ami. mickycrimm's suggestion that he has great knowledge of advantage keno plays is both very pertinent and potentially valuable to advancing this thread....It might even change the course history....at least in this universe. If I don't get a comment back from Dan, I hope micky would agree to take a look at my play before I either post it for all to see or give it away more selectively.
    You probably should have started with the hobo. He's been chasing falling balls around the country since 'Nam.
    FraudJ's word is worth less than the prop cash in Singer's safe...RIP

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    Originally Posted by 1Hit1der View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I know more keno advantage plays than any AP who has ever lived.
    That's sort of a self-defeating claim like 0^0 = 1, the mathematical notion that something comes of nothing. I guess, a ripple, on the quantum-fluctuation level, that led to the supposed spontaneous generation of the universe. But, in our realm, nothing remains nothing. Ha.

    I mean, a sort of greatness without any true meaning, or value (outside of yourself).
    Au contraire mon ami. mickycrimm's suggestion that he has great knowledge of advantage keno plays is both very pertinent and potentially valuable to advancing this thread....It might even change the course history....at least in this universe. If I don't get a comment back from Dan, I hope micky would agree to take a look at my play before I either post it for all to see or give it away more selectively.
    Sure, I’ll be glad to take a look at it and let you know what I think.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by 1Hit1der View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I know more keno advantage plays than any AP who has ever lived.
    That's sort of a self-defeating claim like 0^0 = 1, the mathematical notion that something comes of nothing. I guess, a ripple, on the quantum-fluctuation level, that led to the supposed spontaneous generation of the universe. But, in our realm, nothing remains nothing. Ha.

    I mean, a sort of greatness without any true meaning, or value (outside of yourself).
    Think money, Bill. Think money. That’s the value of my knowledge of keno, lots of money.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #37
    Mission’s eyeballs would have popped out had he run into this play. However, he may see this game in the jurisdiction he has moved to or will be moving to. But in that jurisdiction the meter caps right at the point where it goes positive. Essentially, you are playing the game without any meter movement at that point. So the game is no good.

    Quick Cash, and the ability to dissect it, is one of those games that separate the pros from poser pros like maxpen.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by unowme View Post
    Originally Posted by 1Hit1der View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I know more keno advantage plays than any AP who has ever lived.
    That's sort of a self-defeating claim like 0^0 = 1, the mathematical notion that something comes of nothing. I guess, a ripple, on the quantum-fluctuation level, that led to the supposed spontaneous generation of the universe. But, in our realm, nothing remains nothing. Ha.

    I mean, a sort of greatness without any true meaning, or value (outside of yourself).
    Au contraire mon ami. mickycrimm's suggestion that he has great knowledge of advantage keno plays is both very pertinent and potentially valuable to advancing this thread....It might even change the course history....at least in this universe. If I don't get a comment back from Dan, I hope micky would agree to take a look at my play before I either post it for all to see or give it away more selectively.
    I'm going to support Crimm's statement; I think it's very possible, perhaps even highly probable, that he is aware of more potentially +EV Keno plays than anyone else in the Universe. He has access to progressive Keno games the likes most people have never even seen; they do some pretty interesting stuff in his stomping grounds.

    It's still quite an honor that he asked for my help with one of them; it was an extremely complicated Keno game with a ton of moving parts. I ended up fucking nailing it, though! That was awesome because it was the toughest game analysis I've ever done.

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Think money, Bill. Think money. That’s the value of my knowledge of keno, lots of money.
    I am absolutely convinced that no wealth in the world can help humanity forward, even in the hands of the most devoted worker in this cause. The example of great and pure characters is the only thing that can produce fine ideas and noble deeds. Money only appeals to selfishness and always tempts its owners irresistibly to abuse it. Can anyone imagine Moses, Jesus, or Gandhi armed with the money-bags of Carnegie?

    Albert Einstein, The World As I See It
    Perhaps, you and Mission might want to carry on with the route of gambling messiahs, or connoisseurs, like 99% of the other gamblers, who spend their lives talking, in depth, only to themselves.
    Upping my game. Ha.


    Gambling will addict some of the people, some of the time, but, deludes all of the people, all of the time.
    ---> O, tell me the, tell me the list of "doped up" people out of left field who claimed to be a gambling messiah.


    No matter where you go, there you are!
    ---> O! Gee, turn the other way. You are more.


    My final, final anagram with gematria, https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...l=1#post171878

  20. #40
    I sent Micky a PM. Based on his response, I'll decide how to proceed. Maybe he'll just say that I'm full of shit. Then again, maybe not.

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