Examination of Mdawgs 6 year results.

[Mission146]

Let me make this very clear: I don't care if you live or die. That's not an insult. It's not meant to hurt your feelings. It's a simple fact.

Now, I'm sure you're too willfully stupid to notice that Redietz created a thread to indirectly cast aspersions upon you by asking questions that I answered, which I think are correct answers (on casino win/loss statements) that indirectly defend you. Am I answering the way I am to defend you? No. I'm answering with what I believe to be the correct answers.

Go look at my posting history---here, I'll help:

https://wizardofvegas.com/member/mission146/posts/28/

Not counting the Picks Game, April through August, last year, ONE POST. Does that look like someone who cares about taking a three-day ban?

Mind this sentence, "Leave them alone and they go their own way," feel free to start with the leaving me alone at your earliest convenience. You've often annoyed me and I have quietly tolerated it because I feel sorry for you; I no longer feel sorry enough for you to tolerate being annoyed by you.

Quite frankly, if I didn't run the Picks Game every year because of the people who seem to really look forward to it, no promises, but it's very possible I wouldn't even look at the forum section unless specifically promoting an article that I really wanted people to see. I'm certainly not required to post there. If nothing else, not that anyone has ever said anything (they haven't), but ownership would probably prefer I post less and write articles more, in general.

One post in five months other than about the Picks Game. But, if thinking of me spending the last two days in tears over a three day ban will keep you from going on full ass tilt about being banned longer than I am and dropping six figures on Baccarat, then you're free to believe that.

[MDawg]

So you fled the forums over - what? Something that doesn’t matter? All you did was appear foolish and subject to histrionics and then turn around and come right back posting here - UNKewlJ style. At least have the guts to admit that you’re mixed up and don’t know what you’re saying day to day.

The only difference between UNKewlJ and Mission146 is that one pretends to play in casinos. Both are regurgitating theory and what they read somewhere.

There are two kinds of fans. Now M146 has stepped over into the obsessed category conjecturing about the topic of his fan club biography.

Within days one or both will be in the depressed state of bipolar and we won’t be reading volumes from either. Until the next mania takes hold. And that’s again just plain fact not meant as insult.

[Mission146]

I don't know that I've been in a land casino in three months; not a proper casino, anyway. The Skill Games money isn't great, but the fact that I can't possibly lose offsets that somewhat.

I'd say that you could go to PFA if you like interacting with me as I post there with some regularity. Enforcing rules-not bad. Obeying rules-eh, not really my thing. The crowd there is going to rip you to fucking shreds, though, and you'll get no help from me.

[MDawg]

Furthermore, I will no longer be participating on this forum for any reason. Good day to everyone. I might continue to participate at PFA; I haven't decided.

there is just no reason for me, or anyone for that matter, but I will only speak for myself, to participate here any more. Absolutely no value of any kind.

I don't care, I had already decided not to return to WOV. I simply cannot participate on that forum

I will not post on the forum side of WoV anymore other than running my contests and promoting my articles.

You can't make this shit up.

[Mission146]

Who gives a fuck? I first answered one of your posts here to be polite and then simply changed my mind. I like being able to say whatever I want and Dan (and the posters here) have done nothing to me. Even if they had, I can say whatever the fuck I want to them in response, if the mood takes me.

I probably owe Singer a dressing down, I think, but it's tough because he legitimately makes me laugh out loud, sometimes. He's got some good one-liners.

Speaking of that thread, why haven't you responded there? Do I have your collar on a little too tight, dog? I can loosen it up a tad.

[MDawg]

Actually we could work together on this project and you could save me the time of looking through my posts, as long as you are doing the same, why not PM me the URLs to any posts that concern my explanations for why I win at blackjack or baccarat. Posts about pictures of 100K chips, pictures of promo chips, statements of loss rebates, pictures of pit verified winning cage checks, video of WIN/LOSS statements, etc. There are also a whole series of posts by the Wizard where he posts about verifying evidence I presented to him in private. When I get a chance I will look for those too.

You could just copy/paste a URL every time you see such a post and then send me the list when you are done. By now, I assume whoever is directing you has asked that you do this in addition to merely add up numbers?

That is, if you are truly interested in presenting this matter in a neutral fashion that includes not just numbers in a vacuum, but evidence that supports or explains the results.

[coach belly]

anyone compelled to action by something that some random dude on a forum says he is doing sort of punches their own ticket on this one.

Is that what you have done?

[Mission146]

anyone compelled to action by something that some random dude on a forum says he is doing sort of punches their own ticket on this one.

Is that what you have done?

Um...no. I have not played a hand of Baccarat (live) in my entire life. Not that I can think of, anyway. It might be a Mississippi Stud thing where I played exactly one just so I could say I had. There have been a few online plays where I have and was playing at an advantage; as I recall, slightly worse expected profit (promotion) than Blackjack, but less of a pain in the ass to get the playthrough done; zero decisions, Banker every hand.

Oh, I also played the big Baccarat machine that is, or was, at Rio. $1 a hand. Banker only. I actually wanted some liquor, but gave up on any cocktail waitress ever appearing after fifteen minutes, or so.

[Mission146]

Actually we could work together on this project and you could save me the time of looking through my posts, as long as you are doing the same, why not PM me the URLs to any posts that concern my explanations for why I win at blackjack or baccarat. Posts about pictures of 100K chips, pictures of promo chips, statements of loss rebates, pictures of pit verified winning cage checks, video of WIN/LOSS statements, etc. There are also a whole series of posts by the Wizard where he posts about verifying evidence I presented to him in private. When I get a chance I will look for those too.

You could just copy/paste a URL every time you see such a post and then send me the list when you are done. By now, I assume whoever is directing you has asked that you do this in addition to merely add up numbers?

That is, if you are truly interested in presenting this matter in a neutral fashion that includes not just numbers in a vacuum, but evidence that supports or explains the results.

The problem with that is that you pissed me off, could have politely requested that (send a WoV PM) in the first place and also that I'm to the second Adventures thread on WoV. I'm not going through all the stuff from 2019-(almost the end of) 2021 again. I mean, the Blackjack results...you reported that you're spreading 1-20, sometimes wider...that fucking explains that. I don't think you were counting, though; I think you were doing something else and it might not even look like counting...

No. Whoever asked me to do this has not asked that I explain how you could be winning. I have not been specifically asked to explain your results in any way whatsoever. I did point out that your self-reported 2020 results were very close to the W/L's you had posted about, but obviously, I haven't exactly been bending over backwards, and adding to my own workload, to do something that I haven't been asked to do by the person who asked me to do this.

Listen, you know what you have posted elsewhere. You know where to find it. Put it in a document and just fire off copy/pastes as if you're making an original post. I already told you that I made posts in your first thread theorizing about what you could be doing and one of my theories matches what you recently told me (PM here) that you were doing. Fucking quote that. I don't give a shit. Just quote it in its entirety and I'm not finding it for you. I promise it's there; even I'm not enough of a dickhead to send you looking for a non-existent post.

[coach belly]

anyone compelled to action by something that some random dude on a forum says he is doing sort of punches their own ticket on this one.

Is that what you have done?

Um...no. I have not played a hand of Baccarat (live) in my entire life.

What about your action here?...

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...results-thread

[Mission146]

Huh? Do you understand what that thread is?

[coach belly]

Huh? Do you understand what that thread is?

This one?...

to go through MDawg's threads and detail gambling results from his posts.

Aren't you compelled to action by something that some random dude on a forum says he is doing?

[kewlJ]

It is no surprise that this exercise, this examination of Mdawgs claims has turned into more theater of the absurd.

Mdawg you cannot claim that Shackleford verified anything in private, if you are not willing to allow him to speak. That is ridiculous. If you want him to act as a witness for you, then let him speak.

Everything else is just soooo predictable, including coach belly interjecting himself, in defense of the absurd.

Again, as someone who added up what Mdawg posted as results from several of his trips, including the long 7 month trip, I don't believe you can come up with a definite number like Mission has been asked to do. I suspect Mission sees that now. You have no choice but to make assumptions about some of Mdawgs results. I suspect that is intentional.

Next, what difference does the exact number make? Mdawg do you accept the fact that the number you have claimed to have won over the 6 year period is about 2 million dollars? Maybe a little less. Maybe somewhat higher. But roughly 2 million dollars. And if you don't accept that what number do you think would be a fair representative of the winnings claimed?

[Mission146]

Huh? Do you understand what that thread is?

This one?...

to go through MDawg's threads and detail gambling results from his posts.

Aren't you compelled to action by something that some random dude on a forum says he is doing?

Ah ha! You're a sly one, Coach. I guess indirectly. Obviously, I meant if people are compelled by a random dude to try Baccarat strategies for real $$$, then that's almost entirely on them. My post, obviously, all but directly stated that's what I meant.

[kewlJ]

Next, what difference does the exact number make? Mdawg do you accept the fact that the number you have claimed to have won over the 6 year period is about 2 million dollars? Maybe a little less. Maybe somewhat higher. But roughly 2 million dollars. And if you don't accept that what number do you think would be a fair representative of the winnings claimed?

It doesn't appear Mdawg wants to respond. Not surprised. I was just hoping we could save Mission46 some time and effort by coming up with a number that everyone, Mdawg, Mission and the person that asked Mission to complete this task could accept as reasonable. In the absence of that I am just going to move along completing my thoughts using 2 million won as my base. By the way, at some point in the last few days, during this discussion, Mdawg said something about he welcomed this exercise because he didn't even know how much he has won. How absurd. He is required by law to know and report how much he has won. I am not even going to get into that angle of it, but it is just more ridiculousness.

So the bottom line continues to be, that when Mission146 finishes this task and reports a number (that will be in the 2 million dollar range), we are supposed to believe.....have been supposed to believe all along, that a player playing table games, playing rated, so the casinos know what he wins and loses, playing high limit room, with many sets of eyes on him, playing only a handful (if that) of strip casinos, can win this amount of money playing 150 days a year, with no countermeasures taken, no back-offs, or trespass, and still get comped the high end suites and gifts (comps would be the first thing to go).

This is what the crazy fairytale boils down to. And this is NOT the way Las Vegas or the gambling industry in any area works. It just isn't!

Players beating casinos at table games, long-term, have to work at it. We have to give up the comps and play unrated, move around, play a larger rotation of casinos, not a handful, and figure out and play styles and limits that are better tolerated. The casinos are not our friends patting us on the back. They are the foe, and a formidable one, that we have to work at to beat. Anyone telling you otherwise is telling you a story as silly as Jack and the beanstalk.

And one final thing. It matter not what the player might be doing to win. Counting cards, hole-carding or some other method of knowing a card, Rinaman as Mdawg has claimed. It just doesn't matter in the slightest. It doesn't matter if the casino has no clue what the player is doing. Casinos throw out many, many player that they haven't figured out exactly what they are doing. They just are not in the business of sitting there watching a playing win everyday for years. Ridiculous!

[coach belly]

My post, obviously, all but directly stated that's what I meant.

I understood that's what you meant.

My question wasn't about what you meant.

[Mission146]

Almost never is. lol

[unJon]

I never would have thought I would say I missed reading coach belly posts, but this thread was fun. I guess it’s all about dosage amount.

[MDawg]

WOV needs a return to that disciplined Socratic method. UnJon and I should move for CoachBelly's reinstatement.

[Mission146]

I never would have thought I would say I missed reading coach belly posts, but this thread was fun. I guess it’s all about dosage amount.

I've come to believe the same thing.