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  1. #21
    here is another example for you Dawg. . YOU want to show some win/loss statement as proof of something. I have no confidence that either you or even a host associated with you hasn't altered that. And don't give me any crap about a host couldn't do that. Hosts do all sorts of things they are not supposed to do to appease a higher limit player and no one has ever questioned that is what you are.

    So if I was to put any value in a win/loss statement, it would not be one that you provided. It would be from a source I trusted. Oh wait I did that and it didn't match your claims showing a 100k loss in the period you claimed 500k win. And don't give me any crap about they had the records of the wrong person. There aren't many players at your level, at any level really that spend 100+ days a year in comped suites in Vegas.

    AND this is precisely why you don't use your real name on these forums. I think we all know why AP's don't use their real names (well everyone but Redietz apparently). But why don't you? You aren't hiding your play from the casinos. You play rated and claim they love you and welcome your play. So who exactly are you hiding or staying anonymous from? And the answer to that is forum members that may have some casino connection, or even work in themselves in the casino that might be able to get ahold of your records and see for themsleves that theis whole adventure is nonsense.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So an hours play has NO meaning.
    Neither does sessions, days, trips or years played.

    MDawg's number of rounds played cannot be estimated, without knowing how many hours he played, and that data may not be available.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I want to see him duplicate these outragous claims going forward. That is when I will believe.
    Then challenge him to repeat the DarkOz challenge X number of times.

    How many consecutive losses can you absorb?

  4. #24
    MDawg,

    I consider that private communications are supposed to remain private and would have done exactly what I said I was going to do exactly as I said I would do it.

    However, you have shared our private conversation with a third party.

    Naturally, I don't want to be perceived as biased against you whilst I finish this, so I am taking the following actions:

    1.) I will not post on the forum side of WoV anymore other than running my contests and promoting my articles. That being the case, I couldn't possibly care whether you post there, or not...nor would I care about any conversation about you because I will not be reading any threads whatsoever that I did not create as I will not be interacting with anybody, for any reason, except in my own threads and articles.

    2.) I am asking that you never speak to me privately again as long as either of us live. There is simply no point in privately discussing things in a polite and understanding way just to have such discussions shared with third-parties without my prior consent.

    With that, I couldn't possibly be less biased because nothing you will ever do will impact me at all whatsoever. The only way that you can possibly engage with me at all is either in the comments section of one of my articles or in a thread that I start, except on DiversityTomorrow, where I will continue to participate in threads I don't start.

    With that, I have no stake in whether or not you post, or what you post, at WoV and cannot possibly be accused of bias.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    So an hours play has NO meaning.
    Neither does sessions, days, trips or years played.

    MDawg's number of rounds played cannot be estimated, without knowing how many hours he played, and that data may not be available.
    Just STOP IT!

    You remember the story of Eliot being called in to evaluate a high limit player that has been winning for 3 years? That was not in the United States, not that it matters. That player made a handful of trips each year playing for 4, 5, 6 weekends a year. Somewhere between 12-20 weekends worth of play over 3 years.

    And because he was such a high roller, they wanted to be absolutely sure he wasn't playing at an advantage before they took any counter-measures. So Eliot and I believe a couple other experts were called in to evaluate and give their expert opinions.

    Well Mdawgs play surpassed that players play in his first 3 months of his first year. In the first 3 months, Mdawg played more than that player did in 3 years. There simply is no way a casino or even several casinos is going to allow this guy to play and win what he claims for that length of time. And anyone arguing that, simply does not understand the casino business and how they operate, particularly in Las Vegas.

    They are NOT in the business of handing away money. Players can take money from them, but the players (APs playing at an advantage) have to work at it. Mdawgs whole story is that the casinos just hand him money and are fine with it. That is as real as Jack and the beanstalk.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    In the first 3 months, Mdawg played more than that player did in 3 years.
    That is pure speculation on your part, since you don't know how many hands either of them played.

    How many hands did each of them play?

  7. #27
    Furthermore, I will no longer be participating on this forum for any reason. Good day to everyone. I might continue to participate at PFA; I haven't decided.

  8. #28
    Mission, you were picked because everyone (trolls excluded) knows you to be unbiased, levelheaded and fair. Mdawg tries to work and manipulate people and situations behind the scenes. That is what he does. On this forum for example, he was busted for PMing people to vote a certain way in a poll, for God sakes. What silliness.

    Mission don't let Mdawg and what he does effect you in any way, including any decisions on forum participation. Complete this project and then evaluate how you feel and make any decision you need to. Don't allow this guy to drive you from any forum.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Furthermore, I will no longer be participating on this forum for any reason. Good day to everyone. I might continue to participate at PFA; I haven't decided.
    This forum is well beyond PFA by most any metric. I would ask that you reconsider.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  10. #30
    From WOV:
    Originally Posted by mission146
    I have decided that other than running the Picks contests and promoting my articles, I will NOT be participating on the forum side of things here, or anywhere else, for any reason. The only exception to that is DT.
    From VCT:
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Furthermore, I will no longer be participating on this forum for any reason. Good day to everyone. I might continue to participate at PFA; I haven't decided.
    We must assume that Mission146 is more of a man of his word than UNKewlJ with "signing off" from forums.


    A shame that my five year results will not now be tabulated.




    But the CHALLENGE to MisterV remains up for 23 more hours.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  11. #31
    Anyway, it was never going to look like any of this was complete or fair while the person about whom this is all about, was muzzled from comment while the matter unfolded. So, wittingly or unwittingly Mission146 or Dieter by suspending me or both have tainted the whole matter.

    But take heart, there must be someone else out there who loves MDawg enough to take up the project. Maybe lilredrooster or mental will carry the white man's burden.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  12. #32
    By the way, I believe I disclosed what I wrote to you Mission146, not what you wrote. If I did disclose that you were in agreement with what we were discussing, so what? How were we supposed to complete the negotiation of whatever we were discussing anyway if it was not disclosed to the others? Jeez.

    You know what, if you're going to be a crybaby like that then you don't belong at a dog eat dog eat dog eat - brush me Daddy O! forum like this anyway.

    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Anyway, it was never going to look like any of this was complete or fair while the person about whom this is all about, was muzzled from comment while the matter unfolded. So, wittingly or unwittingly Mission146 or Dieter by suspending me or both have tainted the whole matter.

    But take heart, there must be someone else out there who loves MDawg enough to take up the project. Maybe lilredrooster or mental will carry the white man's burden.
    Wait, has Mission pulled out of this project? I didn't read it like that. I hope not. That was Mdawgs intent and goal. Completely mission's call though.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    You know what, if you're going to be a crybaby like that then you don't belong at a dog eat dog eat dog eat - brush me Daddy O! forum like this anyway.
    Dude you are fucked up! Your idea of these forums is to make whatever outrageous bullshit claims you can make for attention, claiming you are the greatest at this and that and whenever anyone says anything disputing your claims or even as mild as saying they don't believe you go off on them, attacking, smearing, trying to discredit them, usually with lies repeated over and over. Then after you have bullied each person, to the point they don't even want to bother with you, you claim some sort of troll fest victory.

    What the fuck is the matter with you? is your life that empty?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    Anyway, it was never going to look like any of this was complete or fair while the person about whom this is all about, was muzzled from comment while the matter unfolded. So, wittingly or unwittingly Mission146 or Dieter by suspending me or both have tainted the whole matter.

    But take heart, there must be someone else out there who loves MDawg enough to take up the project. Maybe lilredrooster or mental will carry the white man's burden.
    Wait, has Mission pulled out of this project? I didn't read it like that. I hope not. That was Mdawgs intent and goal. Completely mission's call though.
    Edit: looks like Mission is plowing ahead with this project over at WoV. He is just not dealing with Mdawgs trolling ass anymore.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  16. #36
    From WOV:
    Originally Posted by mission146
    I have decided that other than running the Picks contests and promoting my articles, I will NOT be participating on the forum side of things here, or anywhere else, for any reason. The only exception to that is DT.
    Lol I guess Mission146 has a little UNKewl blood in him after all, he's over there posting in that thread even after he said he would not be.

    But the absurdity of a thread all about me where I'm not even allowed to comment on it, creates more unsaid mystique and drama around the MDawg name anyway, so, let the games begin.

    V, V, where are you? 22 hours still left.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post

    Lol I guess Mission146 has a little UNKewl blood in him after all, he's over there posting in that thread even after he said he would not be.
    Mission absolutely DID NOT say he was not continuing with this project. he said he wasn't going to deal with your lying, trolling ass anymore.

    Mission accepted this project and it would be unlike him to not finish.

    As someone who did some of this, work, not for the entire 6 years but for several of Mdawgs trip reports, including the long 7 month trip, mission is going to run into some problems, because of the way Mdawg reports his results that may prevent a completely accurate total.

    BUT, if he completes this project it will be accurate enough to show several million dollars in winnings, over about 1000 days of play and even more than 1000 nights comped in high end suites, playing rated, with the casinos clearly seeing what he is doing and what he is winning and taking no counter-measures, making everything Mdawg has written for 6 years as real as Jack and that beanstalk. THAT is all this "adventure" ever was.

    Can we change it to Mdawg and the beanstalk? Slay those Giants (casinos).....Mdawg.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 02-14-2024 at 12:21 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    At this point anyone who thinks FraudJ represents anything truthfully or factually correct is a fool.....RIP
    That's exactly what he said.

    From WOV:
    Originally Posted by mission146
    I have decided that other than running the Picks contests and promoting my articles, I will NOT be participating on the forum side of things here, or anywhere else, for any reason. The only exception to that is DT.
    I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.

    MDawg Adventures carry on at: https://www.truepassage.com/forums/f.../46-IPlayVegas

  19. #39
    I just pray I don't OD on popcorn.
    It is official. Redietz will never be on Dan Druff's podcast. "too much integrity"

  20. #40
    Ok, shame on me for continuing to feed the trolls and expecting Mdawg to act like a non-troll.

    Very good, very good. No Soup for you! Come back 1 year!

    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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