Examination of Mdawgs 6 year results.

[MisterV]

V, V, where are you?

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[kewlJ]

So now Mission gas been suspended by Shackleford, the very man that asked him to undertake this project which consists of a lot if work for no or little pay. Missions offense making a comment about the body of work, not the poster, which is supposed to be NOT against the rules.

Wizard had the gall to say he was doing mission a favor so now he can work on this project with no distractions.
I would tell that ponytails A-hole to go pound sand. But mission is a better person than I and won't do that.

Shackleford grows his hair to his shoulders and all of the sudden thinks he is Jesus Christ.

[coach belly]

Wizard had the gall to say he was doing mission a favor so now he can work on this project with no distractions.

Post the quote from Wizard.

Nothing that you write should be believed.

[kewlJ]

My mistake. The quote about Mission now being able to do his "work" without disruption was by someone else (soopoo) quoting Wizard.

I made a mistake, but it changes nothing. The rule is you can attack or criticise the post or writing but not the poster which is exactly what Mission did. Wizard is just out if control.

[Rob.Singer]

Pretty incredible how much time kew wastes posting repititious essays about how envious he is over mdawg's winning (and comps! ) while desperately trying to convince others to see things his way. And you're not gonna get anywhere when you're counting on a safe-space seeker like Mission.

Stuff of a true loser.

[MisterV]

Hey Robert, not to hijack but I have a question about your Dodge.

Has the rear end help up to hard use?

I ask because I've read tales of some failing when at the drags, and the cars were supposed to be built to handle it.

[accountinquestion]

Hey Robert, not to hijack but I have a question about your Dodge.

Has the rear end help up to hard use?

I ask because I've read tales of some failing when at the drags, and the cars were supposed to be built to handle it.

Has this ever been verified? Dude goes to a dealership and walks around in an RV for pictures but then doesn't post pictures of himself in his fast car..

kinda weird. cough cough

[Rob.Singer]

Hey Robert, not to hijack but I have a question about your Dodge.

Has the rear end help up to hard use?

I ask because I've read tales of some failing when at the drags, and the cars were supposed to be built to handle it.

I haven't had any issues but I don't really drive it hard. I only get on it when I'm on an open multi-lane highway with no other vehicles visible. No problems at all so far.

[MisterV]

Has this ever been verified?

Kind of.

He offered to meet me for dinner on the Oregon coast, and said he'd be driving the hi-pro Dodge he's posted about.

"Twould be folly indeed for him to say he was driving it were he not in fact doing so, as had I deigned to meet him the truth, or should I say the lie, would become evident.

[MaxPen]

So now Mission gas been suspended by Shackleford, the very man that asked him to undertake this project which consists of a lot if work for no or little pay. Missions offense making a comment about the body of work, not the poster, which is supposed to be NOT against the rules.

Wizard had the gall to say he was doing mission a favor so now he can work on this project with no distractions.
I would tell that ponytails A-hole to go pound sand. But mission is a better person than I and won't do that.

Shackleford grows his hair to his shoulders and all of the sudden thinks he is Jesus Christ.

I would like to see proof that Wizard asked Mission to perform this service. Maybe someone can post that up because we all know FraudJ just interprets things the way he wants them to be

[kewlJ]

MrV, I would like to address something you said at WoV. Unfortunately this is the only place I can address it, so forgive me.

Member SooPoo made this statement: ‘Mr Casino Money Guy, there is a player that’s visited you for 100 days of play averaging $5k win per day. He’s had a few losing days, but not many. Playing mostly private table bac. Are you still comping him, giving him gift cards, paying for his travel, Super Bowl tickets, Suite to watch F1, etc…’. Meaning this is something SooPoo would have liked to ask a casino exec type.

MrV responded with: You're not the only gambler asking these questions, Soopoo. It would be interesting to hear the take from a casino exec.

So MrV, as you know, I happen to have access to such a person, a friend in the industry. And I asked this exact question several years ago. At the time I was asking about the claim that was 7 months of winning 500k, while being comped 200 straight nights. That claim has now grown to be a couple million over 6 years and probably 1000 or more comped nights in suites.

So when I asked my friend, I forget exactly how I phrased it but it was something to the effect that there is a guy on one of the forums claiming he has been comped in a high end suite for 7 straight months while winning almost everyday, winning over half a million dollars. Without knowing any details, before he investigated anything, my friend responded "that didn't happen". He was essentially saying no casino would all that. Sorry to use the same phrases, over and over, but he was essentially saying that is just not the way it works.

And then days later, attending a party at my home, this friend, handed me a 2 page print out about Mdawgs play, confirming he was right at his first assertion. Which I already all but knew.

Now I know this incident was only about that 7 month, 500k period. It has now grown to 6 years and several million. I hope there are other industry insiders that are members at WoV or here (less likely) that will weigh in. I suspect they will have the same conclusions and opinions that my friend proved and that I was on to several years ago.

One other thing I wasn't going to mention, but since I am posting I will. Darkoz said something interesting this evening while I was out to dinner. I'll quote it

"For me the biggest red flag is that he doesn't believe other AP's are winning with their plays.
As late as just this month he specifically stated he doesn't believe I am making any significant income doing my multicarding and has questioned AxelWolf abilities as well.
People who do (AP) know it's possible. People who don't will find it difficult to believe it's possible".

I have known for a very long time that Mdawgs whole "adventure", this whole "troll" was to make a mockery of WoV and Wizard personally. And I certainly have seen him fight with and try to discredit me and every other AP, including Axelwolf, along the way. I assumed that was driven by a desire to discredit anyone that dared publicly doubt him and his adventure. But Darkoz's comment has me wondering: Is Mdawg just another AP hater? Just another losing player, kind of bitter at anyone (APs) that wins? Is that really all this ever was? Just another bitter dude, like a Rob Singer or Blackhole, bitter and angry at those who actually win?

The only thing that has made Mdawg a little different was the pictures of chips and cash, and suites in a casino. He some how figured out that posting these pictures gave him some kind of credibility. (Rob why didn't you figure this out? ) But in the end, those pictures in NO WAY proved anything about winning like he claimed. Just served as a distraction. And when you get past that distraction, those pictures really prove the opposite, that he is a losing player because that is who gets all those kinds of comps. umm..Just as Dan Druff said quite a while ago.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying what has gone down over the past couple days. And if Shackleford is behind this as has been alluded to, well good. All I can say is it is about time.

[accountinquestion]

MrV, I would like to address something you said at WoV. Unfortunately this is the only place I can address it, so forgive me.

Member SooPoo made this statement: ‘Mr Casino Money Guy, there is a player that’s visited you for 100 days of play averaging $5k win per day. He’s had a few losing days, but not many. Playing mostly private table bac. Are you still comping him, giving him gift cards, paying for his travel, Super Bowl tickets, Suite to watch F1, etc…’. Meaning this is something SooPoo would have liked to ask a casino exec type.

MrV responded with: You're not the only gambler asking these questions, Soopoo. It would be interesting to hear the take from a casino exec.

So MrV, as you know, I happen to have access to such a person, a friend in the industry. And I asked this exact question several years ago. At the time I was asking about the claim that was 7 months of winning 500k, while being comped 200 straight nights. That claim has now grown to be a couple million over 6 years and probably 1000 or more comped nights in suites.

So when I asked my friend, I forget exactly how I phrased it but it was something to the effect that there is a guy on one of the forums claiming he has been comped in a high end suite for 7 straight months while winning almost everyday, winning over half a million dollars. Without knowing any details, before he investigated anything, my friend responded "that didn't happen". He was essentially saying no casino would all that. Sorry to use the same phrases, over and over, but he was essentially saying that is just not the way it works.

And then days later, attending a party at my home, this friend, handed me a 2 page print out about Mdawgs play, confirming he was right at his first assertion. Which I already all but knew.

Now I know this incident was only about that 7 month, 500k period. It has now grown to 6 years and several million. I hope there are other industry insiders that are members at WoV or here (less likely) that will weigh in. I suspect they will have the same conclusions and opinions that my friend proved and that I was on to several years ago.

One other thing I wasn't going to mention, but since I am posting I will. Darkoz said something interesting this evening while I was out to dinner. I'll quote it

"For me the biggest red flag is that he doesn't believe other AP's are winning with their plays.
As late as just this month he specifically stated he doesn't believe I am making any significant income doing my multicarding and has questioned AxelWolf abilities as well.
People who do (AP) know it's possible. People who don't will find it difficult to believe it's possible".

I have known for a very long time that Mdawgs whole "adventure", this whole "troll" was to make a mockery of WoV and Wizard personally. And I certainly have seen him fight with and try to discredit me and every other AP, including Axelwolf, along the way. I assumed that was driven by a desire to discredit anyone that dared publicly doubt him and his adventure. But Darkoz's comment has me wondering: Is Mdawg just another AP hater? Just another losing player, kind of bitter at anyone (APs) that wins? Is that really all this ever was? Just another bitter dude, like a Rob Singer or Blackhole, bitter and angry at those who actually win?

The only thing that has made Mdawg a little different was the pictures of chips and cash, and suites in a casino. He some how figured out that posting these pictures gave him some kind of credibility. (Rob why didn't you figure this out? ) But in the end, those pictures in NO WAY proved anything about winning like he claimed. Just served as a distraction. And when you get past that distraction, those pictures really prove the opposite, that he is a losing player because that is who gets all those kinds of comps. umm..Just as Dan Druff said quite a while ago.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying what has gone down over the past couple days. And if Shackleford is behind this as has been alluded to, well good. All I can say is it is about time.

Get help.

[accountinquestion]

Endless. Mdawg doesn't win but somehow this casino employee person was able to pick him out, risk their job, and deliver this scrub we know as Kewl a dossier on Mdawg.

It only makes sense *IF* Mdawg was actually a winner and thus an anomaly. How would he have been made otherwise? Was Mdawg doxed 5 years ago?

I am going to stop responding directly to Kewl's posts because they're just lies, lies, and even more lies.

[MaxPen]

I would be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying what has gone down over the past couple days. And if Shackleford is behind this as has been alluded to, well good. All I can say is it is about time.

You said Wizard was behind it. You started this thread with that. It gets questioned and now you yet again confirm it's just more of your presumptive bullshit. It really is non-stop with you.....lol

[kewlJ]

AinQ, you are supposed to be a knowledgable player/AP. Why do you play dumb defending this shit? What is in it for you ? other than you get to troll me, who you have decided and prove everyday you hate (for whatever reason).

How many people/players do you think live at a casino in a high end suite for 7 straight months? At the time, Mdawg was naming the casino. 90% of his play and almost all his stays were at Cosmo. It was only after he realized that people could look into it and see this was BS that he expanded his claims to include other casinos like Wynn and Venetian. So at the time my friend looked into this, how many players do you think were living at Cosmo for 7 straight months? It wouldn't be very hard to find for anyone with the right connections. I am just lucky enough to have such a friend and connection.

As for not responding to my posts....you really should adopt that policy. Each time you immediately attack me and my posts, usually with things that as an experienced player/AP you KNOW are not true, you only expose your bias....that you have some bug up your ass about me.

No one is going to tell, you because it is very popular to be kicking me, but you just look stupid. And I don't think you are that stupid, just blindly obsessed.

[kewlJ]

Here is what you need to consider AinQ. Have I questioned or challenged anything you have ever said, claimed or alluded to about your play or history? Have I questioned anything about mickeycrimm? Anything about Axelwolf? anything about Maxpen (about his play not about his trolling). How about Smurgerburger? or any other real AP or player? The multi-carders claims, I am not 100% sure about. The basis of what they claim is true, but I think there is some exaggeration going on as well. But name me any real AP or player that I have challenged?

There is one...Moses, who I challenged what he claimed in regards to RENO. He couldn't have done what he claimed playing RENO and at the end he confirmed that. Everyone else that I have ever questioned, Singer, Mdawg, the 5% advantage guy at Norm's blackjack forum, I have been right.

It isn't personal with me, until these guys make it personal. I am not on some crusade to challenge and call out every player or member. But when someone claims something that is complete bullshit, I have every right to say, that is NOT how it works. Other real players have that right too. Most aren't as concerned as I am. But I have that right. As someone who works hard at what I do, I just don't like this fairytale shit of I win, win, win, and the casinos don't care, and love me and comped me 1000's of nights of high end suites. That just is NOT the way it works.

So get over whatever you fucking problem with me is. If you are ok with this shit...Mdawg's shit and Singer's shit....good for you. I am not and I have a right to say so.

[kewlJ]

You said Wizard was behind it. You started this thread with that. It gets questioned and now you yet again confirm it's just more of your presumptive bullshit. It really is non-stop with you.....lol

Maxpen, have you read any of this at WoV? If you did, you would KNOW what is going on.

Mission started this by saying someone had asked him to do this project. he then said that it had been cleared by the administrators. Mission also said he didn't want to name the person that asked him. I didn't put that together at the time that it was Wizard that asked him. I don't know if anyone else did, but I didn't. I was sort of thinking Mike would shut this down. But now we know why he didn't.

And we know this because 'lil red rooster, a member here as well under a different name, stepped forward and announced that he was behind it. Lil red rooster had asked Wizard to look into this, and Wizard then asked Mission. And that is exactly why Mission said, it had the ok of the administrators....because it was Mike that asked him to do this project.

[accountinquestion]

AinQ, you are supposed to be a knowledgable player/AP. Why do you play dumb defending this shit? What is in it for you ? other than you get to troll me, who you have decided and prove everyday you hate (for whatever reason).

How many people/players do you think live at a casino in a high end suite for 7 straight months? At the time, Mdawg was naming the casino. 90% of his play and almost all his stays were at Cosmo. It was only after he realized that people could look into it and see this was BS that he expanded his claims to include other casinos like Wynn and Venetian. So at the time my friend looked into this, how many players do you think were living at Cosmo for 7 straight months? It wouldn't be very hard to find for anyone with the right connections. I am just lucky enough to have such a friend and connection.

As for not responding to my posts....you really should adopt that policy. Each time you immediately attack me and my posts, usually with things that as an experienced player/AP you KNOW are not true, you only expose your bias....that you have some bug up your ass about me.

No one is going to tell, you because it is very popular to be kicking me, but you just look stupid. And I don't think you are that stupid, just blindly obsessed.

The dark side pulls me in. It consumes me. The troll in me is strong.

I used to capture, starve, torture, then finally dine on puppies. (But only those under the age of 3 months) That being said I have quit that life. I am not about that life. Instead I choose to troll on the internet. That is what we do.

But in all fairness, me asking you these quesitons is no different from what you do to a few others. Bullshit is bullshit.

[kewlJ]

I want to turn back to Michael Shackleford for a minute and then I will address your post AinQ.

Wizard is a weird dude. Maxpen, you were friends with him. I don't know if you still are. That is none of my business. But you have to know he is an odd bird. I am not obsessed with his weirdness as much as Freddy, but sometimes Shackleford's, odd, anti-socail type "Sheldon like" behavior frustrates me. Take today. He suspended Mission for saying something negative about the post, not the poster, which is supposed to be ok. And he did this immediately after asking Mission to do the herculean task of adding up 6 years worth of Mdawgs claims. How freaking weird!

Well unlike Mike, I don't care if someone uses language that maybe they shouldn't as long as it isn't too severe, or violating some minor rule, if they are exposing or getting to a much bigger issue.

Mike has know since day 1 that this Mdawg shit was just that. He has been more concerned that someone might say something that violates one of his silly little rules than getting to the bottom of it. The Michael Shackleford of 10 years ago, before he sold the forum, would have never allowed this nonsense for 6 years. He certainly would have never agreed to not disclose his expert opinion about what he saw. I will never understand what that man was thinking?

I believe that had he not signed that agreement, shortly after witnessing that wager or whatever it was, (small amount of Mdawg play), Mike would have said something along the lines of While Mdawg registered a small win that day, there was nothing about his play that would indicate any advantage or anything +EV, and over the longer run, he would be a losing player. And THAT would have put an end to this whole "adventure" before it even got started. And it isn't wishful thinking on my part that is what he would have said. He pretty much told us that the day he violated the NDA and briefly said what he thought, only to be forced to retract it and suspend himself from threat of Mdawg.

So fast forward to now. Why now, it seems like at the request of Lil red rooster, Mike is ready to have someone add up Mdawgs claims so that everyone can see how impossible they are, I don't know. Like I said, I don't know what makes that man tick with all his oddities. Maybe he just figures it is time, 6 years and all.

Personally, I don't even need Mission to complete this herculean task. because I added up totals from several of these trips, inclduing that longer 7 month trip, I know that the total Mission comes up with will be several million dollars. is it 2 million? 3 million? 1.8 million. That I don't know. But does it really matter?

The claim now is that this person won lets say 2 million dollars (I think it is more) over 6 years, playing table games, playing rated, where many sets of eyes are on him and his results all known. He claims the casinos don't care about players winning and has been comped 1000 nights of high end suites. THAT is just not the way it works!

Maybe Mike wants the actual numbers so he can now feel comfortable saying that. But I have been saying it for years. This adventure claim is sillier than Singer's Newell and/or 1.5 million dollar jackpot claims. It is just silly. (and I am being kind with that word)

[kewlJ]

But in all fairness, me asking you these quesitons is no different from what you do to a few others. Bullshit is bullshit.

I am absolutely fine with you or anyone asking questions. I am happy to answer what I can and usually even answer things I shouldn't. The problem is people like you that go into such a situation, go in biased. You don't want to hear what you don't want to hear and won't accept it.

The only things I have ever lied about as some things to protect and murky up information about my identity. NOTHING about what I actually do and have done. And you or anyone else that can't figure out why a player like me would do that, then you are a different AP than me. That is all I am going to say.