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[redietz]

Guess why the Golden Knights had their post-Stanley Cup celebration at Circa. Guess why they require ID to enter the property. Guess why they were the first ones I went to with a $400k offer to play. Guess why they only hire show-level bartenders. Guess why they charge $2000/bottle of Patron reposado at their unequaled pool and cabanas. Guess why half of LA's upper echelon empties out and fills Circa's rooms every weekend. And guess why Barry's Downtown and the Legend Club stand alone in being the city's best in their categories.

Yes downtown is an overall shithole. But Circa is as luxurious and classy as ANYPLACE on the Strip.

True dat.

If you look at downtown as just a revenue organism, Circa and the GN combined account (see what I did there?) for a huge portion of downtown revenue. When you look at the C and D level properties on the strip, like Treasure Island, Linq, Harrah's, Bally's, Circus-Circus, Luxor, even Planet Hollywood, they drag the overall demographics way down.

From a gambling perspective, strip per person gambling budgets are only marginally higher than downtown, and 15 years ago both (surprisingly) were less than the per person gambling spend in Laughlin.

I also need to add that the LV Visitors' Bureau reported downtown visitation was up to 53% from 39-ish%, which they opined was likely due to Circa.

[mcap]

Just because the downtown caters to real Las Vegas gamblers the strip gets all the clubs and restaurants and spa revenues and such as well mr Red.

[accountinquestion]

Guess why the Golden Knights had their post-Stanley Cup celebration at Circa. Guess why they require ID to enter the property. Guess why they were the first ones I went to with a $400k offer to play. Guess why they only hire show-level bartenders. Guess why they charge $2000/bottle of Patron reposado at their unequaled pool and cabanas. Guess why half of LA's upper echelon empties out and fills Circa's rooms every weekend. And guess why Barry's Downtown and the Legend Club stand alone in being the city's best in their categories.

Yes downtown is an overall shithole. But Circa is as luxurious and classy as ANYPLACE on the Strip.

Cuz ppl with the most money want to watch sports on the absolute biggest TV. Fuck yah

[accountinquestion]

The problem with Rob and Redietz is they don't actually know what class is. They know what they've been told is classy. Big TVs. High tech sportsbook. That is the pinnacle of it all. That is because they're both life long degenerate gamblers.

Walk around Circa. Sure it is very nice and modern vs the rest of the downtown but not in any tasteful artistic manner. Just big TVs and newness. You might catch Derrek Stevens on the floor. Seems like a cool guy but I've never really sat around and talked with him much. Who gives a fuck.

Most people emulate taste. Just like their political views or anything else in life. They're told what is the most desirable thing because the marketing works on them. Had they been taught the rotten wine is desirable they'd still be there to this day. That is Bob'n'Rob.

Really successful people have no particular interest in what Circa has to offer. What exactly is down there that a wife or girlfriend would find impressive? (Serious question. Crickets time)

"Hey honey, lets walk outside and watch these kids zip along above us. If we get lucky maybe we'll catch one pissing on people ! " Seriously?

You come across Chinese on the Strip and they've often flown in on private. If not they are at least successful entrepreneurs or CCP.

You come across Chinese downtown and they are in line with their $10 freeplay ticket they need to get down before the bus moves to the next stop. Downtown the distinction in Chinese tourists is basically some are tethered together but the smarter ones aren't.

Just the fact that Circa was willing to give Redietz and that goober kid a private tour shows you what you're dealing with. That picture alone oozed of desperation.

Redietz takes the Deuce back and forth from Circa to his room at the Oyo. He's like that jackass who gave me COVID. My friend had $800 food comps at Aria to burn through so gives me a call. (Hes an AP) Then his bum-ass friend comes around due to WSOP. This bum is looking sick as a dog while begging my friend to be able to borrow the other bed in the suite. Wanting so bad to avoid his room at the Oyo. While he is doing this he is trying to impress us with his financial success. Who talks about being a millionaire while booking at a room at the Oyo!?! Ugh. Just fuckin awful.

Bob'n'Rob are the type of people I avoid Las Vegas over.

Rob might be funny.

Bob's only redeeming quality would be his monk shoes and not for the reasons he would expect.

'Nuf said.

[MaxPen]

Yes downtown is an overall shithole. But Circa is as luxurious and classy as ANYPLACE on the Strip.

You're that guy who reaches into the porta-potty when he sees a shiny object while pissing.

[Rob.Singer]

The problem with Rob and Redietz is they don't actually know what class is. They know what they've been told is classy. Big TVs. High tech sportsbook. That is the pinnacle of it all. That is because they're both life long degenerate gamblers.

Walk around Circa. Sure it is very nice and modern vs the rest of the downtown but not in any tasteful artistic manner. Just big TVs and newness. You might catch Derrek Stevens on the floor. Seems like a cool guy but I've never really sat around and talked with him much. Who gives a fuck.

Most people emulate taste. Just like their political views or anything else in life. They're told what is the most desirable thing because the marketing works on them. Had they been taught the rotten wine is desirable they'd still be there to this day. That is Bob'n'Rob.

Really successful people have no particular interest in what Circa has to offer. What exactly is down there that a wife or girlfriend would find impressive? (Serious question. Crickets time)

"Hey honey, lets walk outside and watch these kids zip along above us. If we get lucky maybe we'll catch one pissing on people ! " Seriously?

You come across Chinese on the Strip and they've often flown in on private. If not they are at least successful entrepreneurs or CCP.

You come across Chinese downtown and they are in line with their $10 freeplay ticket they need to get down before the bus moves to the next stop. Downtown the distinction in Chinese tourists is basically some are tethered together but the smarter ones aren't.

Just the fact that Circa was willing to give Redietz and that goober kid a private tour shows you what you're dealing with. That picture alone oozed of desperation.

Redietz takes the Deuce back and forth from Circa to his room at the Oyo. He's like that jackass who gave me COVID. My friend had $800 food comps at Aria to burn through so gives me a call. (Hes an AP) Then his bum-ass friend comes around due to WSOP. This bum is looking sick as a dog while begging my friend to be able to borrow the other bed in the suite. Wanting so bad to avoid his room at the Oyo. While he is doing this he is trying to impress us with his financial success. Who talks about being a millionaire while booking at a room at the Oyo!?! Ugh. Just fuckin awful.

Bob'n'Rob are the type of people I avoid Las Vegas over.

Rob might be funny.

Bob's only redeeming quality would be his monk shoes and not for the reasons he would expect.

'Nuf said.

Not sure why you wrote all that. I don't believe you are either. I talked about Circa and you talked about downtown, etc. You certainly have very little experience with the place--maybe that's why? Big TV's = degenerate gamblers? I now have three 85 inchers. Sign me up!

[mcap]

If you talk about your TV’s the same way you do your RV’s or dick, you’ve really got 3 27 inch TV’s Rob.

In any case, what sort of pathetic loser brags about a TV of any size in the 21st fucking century. Hey guys, check it out, I got this thing called a laptop!

[accountinquestion]

The problem with Rob and Redietz is they don't actually know what class is. They know what they've been told is classy. Big TVs. High tech sportsbook. That is the pinnacle of it all. That is because they're both life long degenerate gamblers.

Walk around Circa. Sure it is very nice and modern vs the rest of the downtown but not in any tasteful artistic manner. Just big TVs and newness. You might catch Derrek Stevens on the floor. Seems like a cool guy but I've never really sat around and talked with him much. Who gives a fuck.

Most people emulate taste. Just like their political views or anything else in life. They're told what is the most desirable thing because the marketing works on them. Had they been taught the rotten wine is desirable they'd still be there to this day. That is Bob'n'Rob.

Really successful people have no particular interest in what Circa has to offer. What exactly is down there that a wife or girlfriend would find impressive? (Serious question. Crickets time)

"Hey honey, lets walk outside and watch these kids zip along above us. If we get lucky maybe we'll catch one pissing on people ! " Seriously?

You come across Chinese on the Strip and they've often flown in on private. If not they are at least successful entrepreneurs or CCP.

You come across Chinese downtown and they are in line with their $10 freeplay ticket they need to get down before the bus moves to the next stop. Downtown the distinction in Chinese tourists is basically some are tethered together but the smarter ones aren't.

Just the fact that Circa was willing to give Redietz and that goober kid a private tour shows you what you're dealing with. That picture alone oozed of desperation.

Redietz takes the Deuce back and forth from Circa to his room at the Oyo. He's like that jackass who gave me COVID. My friend had $800 food comps at Aria to burn through so gives me a call. (Hes an AP) Then his bum-ass friend comes around due to WSOP. This bum is looking sick as a dog while begging my friend to be able to borrow the other bed in the suite. Wanting so bad to avoid his room at the Oyo. While he is doing this he is trying to impress us with his financial success. Who talks about being a millionaire while booking at a room at the Oyo!?! Ugh. Just fuckin awful.

Bob'n'Rob are the type of people I avoid Las Vegas over.

Rob might be funny.

Bob's only redeeming quality would be his monk shoes and not for the reasons he would expect.

'Nuf said.

Not sure why you wrote all that. I don't believe you are either. I talked about Circa and you talked about downtown, etc. You certainly have very little experience with the place--maybe that's why? Big TV's = degenerate gamblers? I now have three 85 inchers. Sign me up!

Lol. You guys were like downtown is as nice as the Strip.. blah blah. Aiq doesn't know what he is talking about. Fact is you couldn't fit a single 85 inch TV in your rv.

You see that shit at Circa and feel like it is the biggest thing man has ever known.

[kewlJ]

Oh for God sakes! More pissing contest shit from the degenerate gambler crowd. Who the fuck cares about how luxurious a casino is or how big the TV screens are? I will answer my own question. Degenerate gamblers...that is who. Advantage players care about where they can make some money.

That said, Circa has some 'OK' blackjack conditions, or did last time I played there. They offer S17 on $25 min tables, which few do in Vegas. Penetration, very average. BUT there is a draw back for card counters with that checking (scanning) IDs at the door policy. That eliminates anyone playing unrated. If they are interested in someone's play, they can easily link to identity. For this reason I don't play there much (not in my primary rotation). If I do play there, I try to make it during busier times and play limits that won't draw much attention (green to mid black).

BUT, if I am playing during those busier times necessary (weekend), I have better options, where I can play higher limits. Plus, I am not crazy about being downtown on a Friday or Saturday night. My downtown trips are usually during the week and again because of that scanning ID, those days just don't work for me.

But again, main point is AP's are not impressed by the things being discussed here....degenerate gamblers ARE. Right Rob?

[kewlJ]

Additionally, not my area of expertise, but I would think that scanning of IDs would be problematic for all of you that are multi-carding. That might even be part of what that whole thing is about.

I do like Victory Burger though. If downtown, I will walk up to Circa for lunch, even when not playing there.

[MisterV]

Do they scan ID's 24/7, or only in the evening?

I ask because the newer tribal casino closest to stumptown, Ilani, had a policy to scan ID's but only after 8:00 PM, and they recently stopped doing it altogether.

[kewlJ]

Do they scan ID's 24/7, or only in the evening?

I am going to say 24/7, although I have never entered at say 8am on a weekday. But by 11am, or noon, or early afternoon, even on a weekday they are scanning.

2 new casinos have opened in Vegas in the last 3 months. The first time I visit, sure, I am looking to see just what is what, how nice things are, but much more than that, I am looking at/for blackjack conditions. Is it 6/5?, are there CSMs? How many tables? What is the penetration? Are there side bets that are exploitable? If they don't have what I am looking for, that will be my only visit, unless I hear something has changed.

So I will go once to see what is what, but I only return regularly if there is a reason to. And big TV screens or nice chandeliers are not that reason.

But that is all. You guys continue with your pissing contests and I am better than you shit. Can you imagine that a guy who lives with his daughter...grown man (and his wife) living with his daughter is trying to convince everyone how upper class he is?

[Rob.Singer]

If you talk about your TV’s the same way you do your RV’s or dick, you’ve really got 3 27 inch TV’s Rob.

In any case, what sort of pathetic loser brags about a TV of any size in the 21st fucking century. Hey guys, check it out, I got this thing called a laptop!

Are you really as dumb as your posts have been lately? And btw--my car has over 1000 REAL hp...and not some wussified kw crap. Where's your envy over THAT!?

[redietz]

Oh for God sakes! More pissing contest shit from the degenerate gambler crowd. Who the fuck cares about how luxurious a casino is or how big the TV screens are? I will answer my own question. Degenerate gamblers...that is who. Advantage players care about where they can make some money.

That said, Circa has some 'OK' blackjack conditions, or did last time I played there. They offer S17 on $25 min tables, which few do in Vegas. Penetration, very average. BUT there is a draw back for card counters with that checking (scanning) IDs at the door policy. That eliminates anyone playing unrated. If they are interested in someone's play, they can easily link to identity. For this reason I don't play there much (not in my primary rotation). If I do play there, I try to make it during busier times and play limits that won't draw much attention (green to mid black).

BUT, if I am playing during those busier times necessary (weekend), I have better options, where I can play higher limits. Plus, I am not crazy about being downtown on a Friday or Saturday night. My downtown trips are usually during the week and again because of that scanning ID, those days just don't work for me.

But again, main point is AP's are not impressed by the things being discussed here....degenerate gamblers ARE. Right Rob?

Not to defend Rob -- LOL -- but you are missing a (maybe the) key point. Circa is a sports betting destination, arguably replacing the Westgate, MGM, or Southpoint as Destination #1 in LV for sports bettors. From a historic perspective, Circa has assumed a role previously played by the Stardust, Caesars Palace back in the day, the Westgate (previously LV Hilton) and (believe it or not) Binion's once upon a time.

Part of that reason lies with their various futures odds, which are superior as a group to any other LV sports book's futures, in my current opinion (subject, of course, to modification). These entail to-win-division to to-win-conferences and SB and NCAA title and all that stuff. Additionally, the Circa numbers usually appeal to me because the Westgate futures are such that I swear I was the one who posted them. In other words, Westgate and I tend to see things the same way. So, from an "AP" perspective regarding any kind of sports futures, Circa is the first place to check, making Circa indispensable if you trying to make money. It has little, if nothing, to do with degeneracy.

In fact, I try to schedule my final nights on an LV trip at Tuscany, in part because Tuscany has a Circa satellite book. So after I have surveyed all books, I can re-check the Circa odds at Tuscany before leaving and make any necessary final decisions.

[Rob.Singer]

Do they scan ID's 24/7, or only in the evening?

I am going to say 24/7, although I have never entered at say 8am on a weekday. But by 11am, or noon, or early afternoon, even on a weekday they are scanning.

2 new casinos have opened in Vegas in the last 3 months. The first time I visit, sure, I am looking to see just what is what, how nice things are, but much more than that, I am looking at/for blackjack conditions. Is it 6/5?, are there CSMs? How many tables? What is the penetration? Are there side bets that are exploitable? If they don't have what I am looking for, that will be my only visit, unless I hear something has changed.

So I will go once to see what is what, but I only return regularly if there is a reason to. And big TV screens or nice chandeliers are not that reason.

But that is all. You guys continue with your pissing contests and I am better than you shit. Can you imagine that a guy who lives with his daughter...grown man (and his wife) living with his daughter is trying to convince everyone how upper class he is?

It's around the clock you idiots. And I do believe you're incapable of dreaming about me and posting about me without lying about me. Why are you here anyway--haven't you already humiliated yourself enough?? (oh I get it--queers accept their weaknesses and prepare for it the moment they choose that lifestyle and practice that pathetic lithp)

[redietz]

Do they scan ID's 24/7, or only in the evening?

I am going to say 24/7, although I have never entered at say 8am on a weekday. But by 11am, or noon, or early afternoon, even on a weekday they are scanning.

2 new casinos have opened in Vegas in the last 3 months. The first time I visit, sure, I am looking to see just what is what, how nice things are, but much more than that, I am looking at/for blackjack conditions. Is it 6/5?, are there CSMs? How many tables? What is the penetration? Are there side bets that are exploitable? If they don't have what I am looking for, that will be my only visit, unless I hear something has changed.

So I will go once to see what is what, but I only return regularly if there is a reason to. And big TV screens or nice chandeliers are not that reason.

But that is all. You guys continue with your pissing contests and I am better than you shit. Can you imagine that a guy who lives with his daughter...grown man (and his wife) living with his daughter is trying to convince everyone how upper class he is?

I've experienced 24/7, even at 8 AM. Circa runs a tight ship. I have to give the GN credit also -- they don't guard the doors with security like Circa (it would be impossible given their doors), but undesirables last about 20 seconds in there before vanishing.

[kewlJ]

Not to defend Rob -- LOL -- but you are missing a (maybe the) key point. Circa is a sports betting destination, arguably replacing the Westgate, MGM, or Southpoint as Destination #1 in LV for sports bettors. From a historic perspective, Circa has assumed a role previously played by the Stardust, Caesars Palace back in the day, the Westgate (previously LV Hilton) and (believe it or not) Binion's once upon a time.

Part of that reason lies with their various futures odds, which are superior as a group to any other LV sports book's futures, in my current opinion (subject, of course, to modification). These entail to-win-division to to-win-conferences and SB and NCAA title and all that stuff. Additionally, the Circa numbers usually appeal to me because the Westgate futures are such that I swear I was the one who posted them. In other words, Westgate and I tend to see things the same way. So, from an "AP" perspective regarding any kind of sports futures, Circa is the first place to check, making Circa indispensable if you trying to make money. It has little, if nothing, to do with degeneracy.

That is fine Red. You patronizing Circa because of superior betting opportunities is on par with what I am talking about with me looking for good blackjack opportunities.

It is all the nonsense about $2000 bottles of liquor, and LA's upper echelon of society, or Vegas Golden knights players partying there after winning the Stanley cup, that is the nonsensical talk of a degenerate gambler. Anybody impressed by and visiting a property because of high priced liquor, or the LA's upper echelon "crap" is not only a degenerate gambler, but an idiot as well. If that is the kind of "adventure" that impresses you, you can read about it elsewhere. I thought most of the members here were AP's about making money.

It all comes back to one thing... a pissing contest. Always does on this forum.

For the record, as a blackjack AP, the downtown casino that I have made the most money at in my 15 years residing in Vegas (also among the best blackjack rules), is an older, dumpy place at the complete opposite end of Fremont Experience. When I visit downtown, that is my first stop, and often my last at the end of my visit, as well.

BTW, the last guy to try to impress us all with tales of professional hockey players, playing/partying at a casino in Vegas (Montreal Canadian players), it turns out they were quarantined thousands of miles away, in a different country, at the time he claimed.

[MDawg]

UNKewlJ is like someone with a variety of impairing mental illnesses...the equivalent of having a burlap bag over your head able to poke out some visual impressions occasionally, but mostly mouthing nonsense syllables in a slurred voice, trying desperately to be heard, all the while cut off from the real world and bathed in darkness.

The above post is a classic example of an UNKewlJ typical lying post:

1. Provides no evidence - other than sometimes mentioning that, "the math works" or "the math doesn't work."

2. Repeats the same things over and over - "manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over."

3. Tries to shoe horn his now worn smooth fable about being a multi year blackjack player into the topic. "I've been a professional player for X years and made X million dollars already blah blah blah so I know how it works."

3. Includes some kind of rant about MDawg / Singer / etc.

4. Misstates most of what he even references. Frequently contradicts himself.

5. Refers to unknown never will be seen APs or other experts who know him, will vouch for whatever it is he is claiming, or work with him.

6. Tries to distill any opposition to whatever it is he claims to "trolling" and "a witch hunt." – “poor poor KJ always the victim.” *

* 7. (Optional) Mentions that he doesn't really care what people think about him and that no one need prove anything.

And I'll tell you why he disappeared. He was hoping that Mission146's data crunching would lead to some kind of shift in the perception of MDawg. It did not. MDawg's credibility actually went up after that exercise. Instead, while softly whining in his slurred voice, UNKewlJ's credibility, if that is even possible, went down, as he was called out for yet another lie, bringing the total to thirty UNKewl lies so far!

THAT was what took him over the edge and drove him to claim (again) that

I will not be responding, not on this forum, because I am done here.

[MDawg]

And there you have it....again and again and again! Kew repeatedly proves he just CANNOT stop reading forums he "vows" to be finished with, simply because he just HAS to see if anyone is saying anything that doesn't 100% jive with his completely made-up internet forum life.

You can just feel the squirmy uneasiness in his real life every time he's forced to do that, which for a weakling like him, is impossible to stop. Which as I've said many times, forever and readily explains how there is no way in hell that such a helpless little twit would ever have the required character and discipline to be the gunslinging bj player he purports to be. And he never does get how he exposes that in his myriad of postings

[kewlJ]

And I'll tell you why he disappeared. He was hoping that Mission146's data crunching would lead to some kind of shift in the perception of MDawg. It did not. MDawg's credibility actually went up after that exercise.

Talk about delusional. Have you read the comments at WoV about you since that event? Of course you have because you respond and fight with every person, just as Dark Oz pointed out.

But I no longer care about you or your trolling....and that IS all you do now dude. I know you think you are winning something....some kind of troll or flame war. It changes nothing about me, what I do or you and what you do (gamble and get comped accordingly). So troll ways, Mr multi-millionaire, big time attorney.

What you have won, or succeeded at....is making a mockery of WoV and Mr. Shackleford. Early on, I spotted and said, that is what you were really about. So, I guess congratulations on that.