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[MisterV]

You find the place that fascinating? It really isn't.

Of course it's "fascinating," at least if you're a gamblin' man with some money to spend.

But "fascinationg" doesn't necessarily equate with "worthwhile."

It's like someone grafted a set of double D tits onto Nevada...that kind of "fascinating."

LV is all pretty much a bullshit facade, but the wide availability of gambling, booze 24/7, lousy rules, hideous fees, hordes of hyped-up tourists and broken gamblers...the stuff that bad dreams are made of.

I've been there quite a few times, no real need to return, not with tribal casinos available to me.

[MaxPen]

You find the place that fascinating? It really isn't.

Of course it's "fascinating," at least if you're a gamblin' man with some money to spend.

True, it's all pretty much a bullshit facade, but the wide availability of gambling, booze 24/7, hordes of hyped-up tourists and broken gamblers...the stuff dreams are made of.

But I've been there quite a few times, no real need to return, not with tribal casinos available to me.

There's not much gamble left in this town. It's pretty much a highly refined leech designed to suck the blood dry of anyone that is dumb enough to visit ...RIP

[Garnabby]

There's not much gamble left in this town. It's pretty much a highly refined leech designed to suck the blood dry of anyone that is dumb enough to visit ...RIP

Easiest to come to the forums to see the firsthand results. Ha.

The misery of gambling has a way of perpetuating itself greater than anything else out there.

[accountinquestion]

You find the place that fascinating? It really isn't.

Of course it's "fascinating," at least if you're a gamblin' man with some money to spend.

But "fascinationg" doesn't necessarily equate with "worthwhile."

It's like someone grafted a set of double D tits onto Nevada...that kind of "fascinating."

LV is all pretty much a bullshit facade, but the wide availability of gambling, booze 24/7, lousy rules, hideous fees, hordes of hyped-up tourists and broken gamblers...the stuff that bad dreams are made of.

I've been there quite a few times, no real need to return, not with tribal casinos available to me.

Yea, pretty much. I'm just wondering what mcap sees in Redietz's posts about doing "real things". It is starting to be revealed.

Although there is a thread from back wherever where Redietz did a trip-report sorta deal over sports betting in LV which was a good write-up and well done - but for the most part it is always self-congratulatory tripe.

Redietz is definitely a very big contributor here but just not in the way in which he'd like.

[accountinquestion]

You find the place that fascinating? It really isn't.

Of course it's "fascinating," at least if you're a gamblin' man with some money to spend.

True, it's all pretty much a bullshit facade, but the wide availability of gambling, booze 24/7, hordes of hyped-up tourists and broken gamblers...the stuff dreams are made of.

But I've been there quite a few times, no real need to return, not with tribal casinos available to me.

There's not much gamble left in this town. It's pretty much a highly refined leech designed to suck the blood dry of anyone that is dumb enough to visit ...RIP

It seems to me that capitalism just reaches a point where the product can't change that much. It has been perfected.

So there are 2 approaches.

Figure out how to make the product not last as long OR figure out how to squeeze every cent they can from people.

Subscriptions, shit like that.

That is all there is left when a guy is hired to make more profit! And if he fucks up the brand over the course of the next few years? It matters and because why? Rinse and repeat. If the business can scale at all then money will come in and operate as efficient as possible driving out independents.

I had planned to go to LV for some time this Summer but then just realized ... why? What is there that is special? Not much outside of the WSOP.

[Garnabby]

It's a generational thing by which kids saw the effect of prolific gambling on their elders. Not like building, and, then, marketing, a different type of TV, but, of no one wanting to "watch" it, anymore.

[MisterV]

I had planned to go to LV for some time this Summer but then just realized ... why? What is there that is special? Not much outside of the WSOP.

There's still some things I'd like to see and do in LV, including:

Pinball Hall of Fame

Old Mormon Fort

The Sphere

Check out the newest casinos

eat another meal at The Steakhouse at (of all places...) Circus Circus.

ride the Bootleg Canyon Zipline (if it reopens)

[accountinquestion]

I had planned to go to LV for some time this Summer but then just realized ... why? What is there that is special? Not much outside of the WSOP.

There's still some things I'd like to see and do in LV, including:

Pinball Hall of Fame

Old Mormon Fort

The Sphere

Check out the newest casinos

eat another meal at The Steakhouse at (of all places...) Circus Circus.

ride the Bootleg Canyon Zipline (if it reopens)

Don't get me wrong there are some cool tourist things.

I'd like to go see the Wheel of Misfortune. The neon graveyard. The sphere will be a meh i saw it cool.



Don't know anything about an old mormon fort.

Pinball museum is best arcade musuem in the world hands down from anything i know.

New casinos are fun for a walk-thru.

There are lots of small museums downtown and stuff like Meowwulf here and there. Don't get me wrong - there is lots to do in LV that I have't done but it comes with the general ambiance of LV as a whole. Weed shops are cool ... but just the sleaze. I think I'd definitely avoid the strip. With my demoted casino cards I have to pay for parking anyway just to visit. What a shit experience. If I was to go I would find lodging off the strip and rent a car for a couple of weeks.

Where I live there are 2 casinos about ~5 hour drive away. A bit on the long side but either one is a far better experience than anything LV has .. a few downsides but not enough to begin to catch up with LV.

The short of it is - LV for non-gambling tourist stuff. Everywhere else for enjoyable casino experience.

Granted if you are not a value hound then you might find the strip just fine.. $50 for some tiny meal. $20 to park your car. Very tight slots.

[mcap]

You don’t know shit about what fascinates me cunt.

[accountinquestion]

You don’t know shit about what fascinates me cunt.

Genius.

Let me guess. Real people doing real stuff like Redietz?

[jdog]

Pinball Hall of Fame

This is actually pretty cool, especially since you get to play the old machines.

The Neon Museum is probably overrated, unless you are a casino history junkie then you will enjoy it.

IMO Downtown is the way to do Vegas. Easy to get comp rooms and no resort fees generally.

[accountinquestion]

I prefer downtown too. I've spent enough time in the big resorts. Everything so spread out. If I was into the pool scene then I'd say stick with strip.

Downtown caters to people who aren't wealthy. The Strip caters to fleecing conference attendees.

If you have money to burn though the Strip is clearly the best. There is no real ceiling to the quality if you wish to spend the dough.

Downtown has a variety of places to eat where the food may not be cheap but it isn't overpriced. You can walk around the buskers downtown. Better odds downtown. You do have to deal with a lower class of people which can be a variety of unpleasant.

[MisterV]

I always made it a point to stop and play at both The Cal and Main Street Station when in sin city.

A bit off the "beaten path" with an "island flavor" that resonates with me.

MSS had a decent buffet and good odds on craps back then...not sure what it's like now.

[MaxPen]

Downtown is a cesspool of degeneracy....RIP

Not a bit of class or nostalgia left. It is a perfect representation of the country's declining state.

[Rob.Singer]

Downtown caters to people who aren't wealthy.

Then you haven't been to Circa.

[redietz]

Downtown caters to people who aren't wealthy.

Then you haven't been to Circa.

Ditto.

Account has no sense of Las Vegas at all, so not sure why he comments. If you have no idea what you're talking about, why advertise it?

The two downtown flagship properties, Circa and Golden Nugget, both cater to high upper end gamblers. The Circa sports book is really second to none. The rooftop pool area with giant sports screen is using tech other casinos don't employ. The scale is impressive.

The scary thing with account is he just flippantly declares stuff that has no credibility whatsoever. While it's possible that the SuperBook or MGM or South Point have a handle greater than Circa, they are not classier or higher tech than Circa. I will survey the handles next time I'm in LV.

And for those of you who knocked my monk strap shoes -- LOL -- take a gander at the footwear of the VSIN COO. Monk straps are in, baby.

[redietz]

I always made it a point to stop and play at both The Cal and Main Street Station when in sin city.

A bit off the "beaten path" with an "island flavor" that resonates with me.

MSS had a decent buffet and good odds on craps back then...not sure what it's like now.

I took my filmmaker friend, who had never been to LV, to Main Street for the breakfast buffet on Day One. Not because it's a great buffet, but because it's a great room in which to sit and get organized for a day in LV. Sprawl out, order some OJ and coffee, and get your assignments and schedule in order. Bright room with plenty of elbow space and pretty good desserts. It was perfect because we could stroll down to the Mob Museum, where (as a mob expert) he spent about eight hours that first day.

[accountinquestion]

Downtown caters to people who aren't wealthy.

Then you haven't been to Circa.

Ditto.

Account has no sense of Las Vegas at all, so not sure why he comments. If you have no idea what you're talking about, why advertise it?

The two downtown flagship properties, Circa and Golden Nugget, both cater to high upper end gamblers. The Circa sports book is really second to none. The rooftop pool area with giant sports screen is using tech other casinos don't employ. The scale is impressive.

The scary thing with account is he just flippantly declares stuff that has no credibility whatsoever. While it's possible that the SuperBook or MGM or South Point have a handle greater than Circa, they are not classier or higher tech than Circa. I will survey the handles next time I'm in LV.

And for those of you who knocked my monk strap shoes -- LOL -- take a gander at the footwear of the VSIN COO. Monk straps are in, baby.

Try so so hard. Sad old fella.

Downtown definitely caters more to the lower classes. That is beyond obvious. Although there is plenty of catering to various people at Strip casinos. Go stay in a nice resort down there and see how far you have to walk to not pay $15 for a pizza slice or whatever the fuck.

Yes Golden Nugget and Circa are upscale casinos down there but you may not be aware of all the rest.

I had no comment on sportsbooks. If you think Circa has more gambling than the big Strip properties then LOL. Circa might beat them in their sportsbook but won't otherwise.

In all of downtown there is 1 little poker room with only low stakes. 1/2 the time I play poker in LV I will be in the upper-tier area. That isn't even a concept downtown.

I'm not going to pick on some other guy for wearing monk shoes because he shares that with you. Good for him.

Let MDawg who has actual experience gambling at higher levels give us his take on downtown...

[accountinquestion]

I always made it a point to stop and play at both The Cal and Main Street Station when in sin city.

A bit off the "beaten path" with an "island flavor" that resonates with me.

MSS had a decent buffet and good odds on craps back then...not sure what it's like now.

I took my filmmaker friend, who had never been to LV, to Main Street for the breakfast buffet on Day One. Not because it's a great buffet, but because it's a great room in which to sit and get organized for a day in LV. Sprawl out, order some OJ and coffee, and get your assignments and schedule in order. Bright room with plenty of elbow space and pretty good desserts. It was perfect because we could stroll down to the Mob Museum, where (as a mob expert) he spent about eight hours that first day.

Just don't use your mob connections to have Micky's scooter tire flattened.

... to show off for that mob geek dweeb...

[Rob.Singer]

Guess why the Golden Knights had their post-Stanley Cup celebration at Circa. Guess why they require ID to enter the property. Guess why they were the first ones I went to with a $400k offer to play. Guess why they only hire show-level bartenders. Guess why they charge $2000/bottle of Patron reposado at their unequaled pool and cabanas. Guess why half of LA's upper echelon empties out and fills Circa's rooms every weekend. And guess why Barry's Downtown and the Legend Club stand alone in being the city's best in their categories.

Yes downtown is an overall shithole. But Circa is as luxurious and classy as ANYPLACE on the Strip.