THE 10K WARS

[MisterV]

I believe that when I won my first handpay they'd have asked for my SS number, but once it was on file they never asked again; not sure if I provided my SS numbler when I first signed up for a player's card: I think they only scanned my DL but I'm not sure, it was loooong ago...

[mickeycrimm]

I've had several handpays in one commercial casino. They got my ID and SS card for the first one but since then I just tell them I'm in the computer. They look at my player's club card and write the name down. That's it.

I've hit several handpays at an Indian casino in Oklahoma. After the first handpay they just wanted my ID but no SS card.

[DGenBen]

Hard to imagine IRS doesn't require government ID to have the IRS claimed owed taxes. Not saying places don't require ID. I never spun off bigger plays so I also don't know due to limited experience.

They do require it. But they only need it on file once. If your license expires and you get a new one, they will ask for a new copy of your valid identification the first time you hit a handpay after the one they have on file expired.

[jdog]

IIRC this was discussed not long ago... Wasn't it concluded that in Nevada any jackpot must be paid regardless of the player's card? Of course the tribals can handle it any way they want.

[Garnabby]

No tax on casino gambling, up here. Free to dwell on other stuff, like theories of everything. Ha.

Hard to believe that casino people bother, anyway, but, having to go through another hoop like that removes all doubt.

[accountinquestion]

My question is ... how often can you not show an id and just show a player's card? Assuming you're in the system via prior id?

[DGenBen]

My question is ... how often can you not show an id and just show a player's card? Assuming you're in the system via prior id?

Again every casino handles it differently,

Some make you show it every handpay. (Id)

Some make you show it for the first handpay of the day. (Id)

Some make you show it for the first handpay of the year (Id)

And many which is my most common experience, don’t make you show it at all once you’ve shown it the first time, and they have a copy of it & your tax information on file. They will usually ask you tho if anything has changed, like your address. When your Id expires they will need to get a new copy of the current id.

All of the above assumes you had your players card in the machine when the jackpot hit.

If you did not have your players card in when the jackpot hit, they will usually ask for it, & sometimes id also. Can’t speak to what happens if someone elses card is in as thats never happened to me.

[Garnabby]

My question is ... how often can you not show an id and just show a player's card? Assuming you're in the system via prior id?

Again every casino handles it differently,

Some make you show it every handpay. (Id)

Some make you show it for the first handpay of the day. (Id)

Some make you show it for the first handpay of the year (Id)

And many which is my most common experience, don’t make you show it at all once you’ve shown it the first time, and they have a copy of it & your tax information on file. They will usually ask you tho if anything has changed, like your address. When your Id expires they will need to get a new copy of the current id.

All of the above assumes you had your players card in the machine when the jackpot hit.

If you did not have your players card in when the jackpot hit, they will usually ask for it, & sometimes id also. Can’t speak to what happens if someone elses card is in as thats never happened to me.

Thanks for straightening that out, Ben. Ha.


*pisses, and goes back to bed

[accountinquestion]

I'm just curious what would be chances of me getting a w2g. Like what is the most common scenario and how likely would it be possible. Basically how often they do it off players card. How about if name doesn't match up? These are real problems. I jackpotted on a friends card ... just said wrong card and handed id... nothing was even said

[accountinquestion]

What I mean is not the vague it depends (doh) but the amount in practice. Seedvalue would have this drilled.

[DGenBen]

What I mean is not the vague it depends (doh) but the amount in practice. Seedvalue would have this drilled.

But it does depend because there are hundreds of casinos and they are all going to handle the situation differently, sometimes it may even depend on the shift or employee who handles the W2G.

What someone like SeedValue would probably do is know in advance how a certain casino would handle the situation based on prior experience and or networking.

Just from what I’ve experienced on a small W2G probably about 3/4th of casinos wouldn’t care if someone elses card was in the machine.

For the ones that do care, the action taken could be anywhere from warning you not to play on other peoples card, cutting off players cards benefits for you and or the players card you were using, 86ing you, or in the most extreme cases refusing to pay the jackpot.

Does that answer your question(s)?

[Garnabby]

Does that answer your question(s)?

Nothing answers that guy's questions. You'd have to be another idiot to try. Ha.


*pisses, and goes back to bed.

[mickeycrimm]

Here's Matt taking on another 10K:

So Matt did much better on this 10K. His entry point was 9656 and he hit it at 9786. So he moved the meter $130. At a $667 wager per $1 of meter movement he ran an $86,710 wager.

With 16K in the machine he had $11,545 in credits left when he was awarded the meter. That means he was drained $4455 on an $86,710 wager.

4455/86710 means he ran well, suffering just a 5.1% drain.

He won $5329 on the play.

[DGenBen]

Does that answer your question(s)?

Nothing answers that guy's questions. You'd have to be another idiot to try. Ha.


*pisses, and goes back to bed.

Good it, the point.

[coach belly]

Just from what I’ve experienced on a small W2G probably about 3/4th of casinos wouldn’t care if someone elses card was in the machine.

For the ones that do care, the action taken could be anywhere from warning you not to play on other peoples card, cutting off players cards benefits for you and or the players card you were using, 86ing you, or in the most extreme cases refusing to pay the jackpot.

For either scenario, how does the casino establish that the player who the slot attendant encounters at the machine is not the player whose card is in the machine?

Nearly everyone who has replied in this thread has indicated that they typically are not asked to produce ID.

It sounds like the W2Gs are being populated with info from whatever player's card is in the machine.

With handpays that I've observed, the attendant doesn't even look at the player card. I've also seen players remove the card before the attendant arrives.

So what's going on, is the slot attendant pulling up, on a computer, the player card that was in the machine at the time of the jackpot, then comparing an attached photo to the person sitting at the machine?

And for the casinos that don't care, what info are they using if no ID is requested?

[DGenBen]

Just from what I’ve experienced on a small W2G probably about 3/4th of casinos wouldn’t care if someone elses card was in the machine.

For the ones that do care, the action taken could be anywhere from warning you not to play on other peoples card, cutting off players cards benefits for you and or the players card you were using, 86ing you, or in the most extreme cases refusing to pay the jackpot.

So what's going on, is the slot attendant pulling up, on a computer, the player card that was in the machine at the time of the jackpot, then comparing an attached photo to the person sitting at the machine?

And for the casinos that don't care, what info are they using if no ID is requested?

1. Yes, exactly this.

2. The casinos that don’t care you were playing on someone elses card, would still require you to give them ID to generate a W2 with your information.

[jdog]

I think we've well established that ID has to be given by the player to any casino at least once. After that, how your identity is confirmed later seems to vary.

You'd have to be another idiot to try. Ha.

This coming from a guy who joined a gambling forum just to make fun of people for gambling...

[Garnabby]

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[mickeycrimm]

So here's a look at the infamous Ainsworth 50K Must Hit. The meter resets to 45K and must hit by 50K. The meter movement on this beast is super slow, $25 to move it 1 penny. So it takes a $2500 wager to move the meter $1.

Someone posted these pics up on another site asking about a playable number. He got a pic of the payback screen.

So I did the math. Since the meter is super slow the breakeven point is super high, $49,468. But you need a win factor to mess with this machine. At $49,600 it's a theoretical 15K win.

[smurgerburger]

Jeez.