The Biden-Pocalypse

[redietz]

I'm left of Marx, and this is where I've arrived. Not my choice. I'm more or less sane and have eyes, so I'm stuck here.

https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...ne-july-5.html

[pinchingyourballs]

Somebody left of Marx would be against the existence of casinos.

[MisterV]

Let's leave Groucho out of all gambling discussions, shall we?

[smurgerburger]

Somebody left of Marx would be against the existence of casinos.

It's an annoying phrase because there are actual Marxists and anarchists in this world, so it only works as hyperbole if you identify all politics with American politics.

[Half Smoke]

Somebody left of Marx would be against the existence of casinos.

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GAMBLERS OF THE WORLD UNITE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS


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[Half Smoke]

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whatever anyone might think of Marx - I think there are few who would deny that he was one of the most influential people in the history of the world

no, I'm not a Marxist - but I've read "The Communist Manifesto" more than once - and I'm tremendously impressed by the power of his writing

I've read several other works of political philosophy - and though I would agree with their points of view much more than I do with Marx's - the words don't jump out of the page and demand that you pay attention as Marx's words do

it's no surprise that so many leaders became Dictators and harmed their own countries by trying in some way to put his ideas into practice

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[MisterV]

He was a man of his times, helping to lubricate the social and political change from agrarian / rural to industrial / city.

The fatal flaw: men are too GREEDY to share equally.

[mickeycrimm]

He was a man of his times, helping to lubricate the social and political change from agrarian / rural to industrial / city.

The fatal flaw: men are too GREEDY to share equally.

On paper marxism looks like a utopia but it goes against human nature. Under capitalism those that produce the most make the most money. With marxisms equality of outcome all the fast widget makers in the factory, not making more than the slower ones, slowed down to the speed of the slowest widget maker in the factory. Human nature that they refuse to carry someone else’s weight. Consequently, Since not many widgets were being produced there were no widgets on the store shelf’s to be bought. The whole thing collapsed because of lack of productivity.

[redietz]

For your perusal:

https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...h-avatars.html

[kewlJ]

As I write this at 6am Friday, July 12, today feels like the end of the Biden saga, meaning re-election campaign to me. It feels like by sundown he will not be running for re-election. Being stubborn, Mr Biden could possibly drag it into the weekend, but today just feels like the day to me.

There was no reason for this situation. Regardless of political position, it has been apparent since late last year that Biden was declining and fairly rapidly. He had some good days mixed in with the bad, which happens, the SOTU address being a particularly good day/night, which only served to cover up the inevitable. At least cover it up from those of us "common folks". Biden's aides and operative along with his family that see and deal with him daily, had to know. So, THIS mess is all on them. In particular Jill Biden. there was just no need for this situation to have occurred.

And what were they thinking? Suppose Joe had done not as disastrous at the debate 2 weeks ago. Wouldn't have changed anything. We would have gone through the election with one of the two major choices being a guy who was not up to, nor going to be able to do the job much longer. That isn't fair to the voters.

I don't know how Harris will fare against Trump. I think the Dems would like to jump over her, but they can't. But none of that even matters. There was just no need for this situation. Biden should have announced at the start of the year, or even into the primary season that he wasn't running for re-election.

[redietz]

It is all on them. It's also on the "mainstream media" to the extent that they didn't ask the proper questions, follow-up, and demand answers. It's basically been a complete misrepresentation of abilities and health, with a screening/reporting process via media that actually exacerbated the problem and enabled the people misrepresenting reality.

Bottom line: it's close to a real-life Weekend at Bernie's, only with massive, grave consequences.

[MisterV]

I blame it on Jill, the "un-Melania" for keeping Joe in the game.

From what I gather she shepherds, protects and moves her husband around like a sheep dog herds sheep in order to keep his infirmity from being glaringly obvious: hello no press conferences for eight months!

No doubt her motivation is the retention of power and respect: I mean Delaware will be a drag compared to DC.

Oh well, time to ride the rails back home, girlie...and take that old man with ya.

Tootles...

[kewlJ]

I blame it on Jill, the "un-Melania" for keeping Joe in the game.

From what I gather she shepherds, protects and moves her husband around like a sheep dog herds sheep in order to keep his infirmity from being glaringly obvious: hello no press conferences for eight months!

No doubt her motivation is the retention of power and respect: I mean Delaware will be a drag compared to DC.

Oh well, time to ride the rails back home, girlie...and take that old man with ya.

Tootles...

Today's events are even more shocking to me. By all accounts, almost all support for Biden continuing has dried up. Some of that publicly with more and more democrats blatantly calling for him to end his campaign and even more so happening behind the scenes, like last night's discussion between Pelosi and Obama. Further reports indicate that fundraising contributions, especially from the bigger donors has slowed to a trickle. And yet, Biden is on his way to a campaign event in Michigan. Almost in a state of defiance.

the only thing I can think of is that maybe there is some intentional dragging of the feet, wanting Trump to pick his VP (Vance, Rubio, or the other guy...the governor) so that he doesn't pivot and pick a female hoping to offset Harris.

But it is sort of fun being on Biden watch, if you are a political junkie.

[MDawg]

No one with any sense cottons to outed compulsively lying sociopaths, making comments on anything, at all.

So, 'git, like you said you would. The End.

Not me, I am out.

It would take too long to find and post all the times he has

)Quit forums

)Declared that he will no longer interact with MDawg

)Declared that he will no longer interact with R.Singer

only to return within a matter of days if not hours.


But I could probably find and post a dozen of those "never again vows" pretty quickly. Besides the fact that he is an indecisive twit, this sort of thing also ebs and flows with his manic depression.

[Don Perignom]

The fatal flaw: men are too GREEDY to share equally.

On paper marxism looks like a utopia but it goes against human nature.

V, you have the shittiest takes for someone who claims to vote Libertarian. Find me the part of the LP platform that says people should share equally:

https://www.lp.org/platform/

Marxism looks like a utopia ... if you're a parasite.

[redietz]

The fatal flaw: men are too GREEDY to share equally.

On paper marxism looks like a utopia but it goes against human nature.

V, you have the shittiest takes for someone who claims to vote Libertarian. Find me the part of the LP platform that says people should share equally:

https://www.lp.org/platform/

Marxism looks like a utopia ... if you're a parasite.

I'm not a Marxist (it's a religion, really, with unprovable tenets); I'm left of Marx.

I don't think everyone should reap the same regardless of their sowing, but I think a culture is stronger (think Sparta) if everyone begins with the same bag of seeds.

[smurgerburger]

Sparta was famously criticized for the inequality of wealth of the Spartiates.

[MisterV]

V, you have the shittiest takes for someone who claims to vote Libertarian. Find me the part of the LP platform that says people should share equally:

I was talking about that being a tenet of Marxist belief, not Libertarian.

Besides, I don't pay much attention to what the Libertarian platform provides, I mainly vote that way to be contrarian, to discharge my "civic duty" of voting so that I can later bitch and whine about things with a clear conscience.

I still am interested in Libertarianism because in college I met the guy behind it at that time and we talked about it over beer, and that made it personal for me.

Their beliefs come closer to how I'd want to live in a perfect world but this world is far from perfect.

But...were a Libertarian to win...I wouldn't really care one way or another: while I follow politics I am not engaged in it, other than to criticize, hurl brickbats and of course make snide remarks.

I have no political lawn signs, no flag on my car, and have never contributed any money to a candidate: I simply try to stay informed and amused.

[MDawg]

I have no political lawn signs, no flag on my car, and have never contributed any money to a candidate: I simply try to stay informed and amused.

This makes sense given your Stir the pot for no reason other than to stir the pot, and Support the underdog not because I believe in him but because he's the underdog, attitudes and actions.

[Don Perignom]

I was talking about that being a tenet of Marxist belief, not Libertarian.

It appeared to me you were legitimizing the premise that sharing and equality are desirable.

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The Austrian School (of economics) argues that free markets (and competition) are the best allocators of resources:

https://www.independent.org/students...ay.asp?id=2042

Market prices, he argues, signal to producers and consumers the relative scarcity of resources. They tell producers how to combine resources in the ways that produce the most value for consumers, and tell consumers when they should expand or contract their consumption of various goods and services. Hayek pointed out that the information communicated to market participants through the price system is decentralized, localized, and often inarticulate. This knowledge, he argued, exists only in a divided, diffused form, throughout the members of society. As such, centralized decision makers have no way to access its most important elements.

Those circumstances will never prevail if everyone's afraid of being greedy.

I mainly vote that way to be contrarian, to discharge my "civic duty" of voting so that I can later bitch and whine about things with a clear conscience.

Is that in the social contract I signed? I don't vote at all.