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    My, my, looks like all the geriatric pussies are here and accounted for piling on a 40 something year old queer....you know, safety in numbers.....ooohhhh, such brutes. Lololololololololol

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    I guess we now know K.Stone's sexual orientation.
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    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I guess we now know K.Stone's sexual orientation.
    So does your lady

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    I somehow missed it, but others have already pointed it out.

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    I don't care that maxie, KJ, redietz and the Stoner have gay sex with each other.
    LOL

    So, now I'm one of the notorious "Brokeback Boys," eh?

    Cool.
    I think that is a reference to Keystone. But you can easily be inducted by the hobo if you simply reference his obvious fondness for the Singer 9.5.
    His repeated rushing to pout over the KJ bashing cemented my understanding of K.Stone's homosexuality.

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    I`m trying to get the deal closed here for you
    Now even more of what you've posted here is about gay sex.

    It's your tell...you're a spectacle
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    Interesting. Honestly what this guy is claiming makes a lot of sense. Mgm is sharp enough. It would be trivial to pick off APs abusing the FP. Looking at w/l stuff works but looking at the ratio of good machines to bad machines would be far more accurate and wouldn't pick off a problem gambler who has run good.

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    My take is that since MGM didn't want to take the risk of banning someone because of their ethnicity (asian), since it is illegal (lawsuits reduce profit to a degree), they decided to use highly correlated variables as a substitute to achieve an approximate solution to asian campers. So querying the MGM loyalty card database for people who only play Buffalo Ascension, Buffalo Diamond, Regal Riches, Wolf Run Eclipse and other asian campout mainstays with team money or team free play, they can get rid of a large number of asian campers. Personally, I would have refined the query to also include Rocket Rumble.

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    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Interesting. Honestly what this guy is claiming makes a lot of sense. Mgm is sharp enough. It would be trivial to pick off APs abusing the FP. Looking at w/l stuff works but looking at the ratio of good machines to bad machines would be far more accurate and wouldn't pick off a problem gambler who has run good.

    Bellagio gave me free weekend rooms and I have 0 status with them. I was surprised. Well free as in resort fee free.
    My take is that since MGM didn't want to take the risk of banning someone because of their ethnicity (asian), since it is illegal (lawsuits reduce profit to a degree), they decided to use highly correlated variables as a substitute to achieve an approximate solution to asian campers. So querying the MGM loyalty card database for people who only play Buffalo Ascension, Buffalo Diamond, Regal Riches, Wolf Run Eclipse and other asian campout mainstays with team money or team free play, they can get rid of a large number of asian campers. Personally, I would have refined the query to also include Rocket Rumble.
    Yea but campers can still make $ but no FP. I would not expect this to cut down on Asian campers that much. Mgm can do it all administratively and it wouldn't take much to see real benefits. No need to get low level employees even involved outside of memos to players club staff. I'd love to know the mix of factors they used for this .. there is so much algorithmic profiling they could do. Anyway I feel like I shouldn't talk about this much but that's the good part of discussions being buried in stupid threads such as this one.

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    Originally Posted by accountinquestion View Post

    Yea but campers can still make $ but no FP.
    The operating word here is "can". Most of the Asian Campers take shit early (i.e. at -EV) since they do card building. If card offers end for them, then they will have to show more discipline than they ever have before.

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    Why don't the casinos simply get rid of the known AP-able games?
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Why don't the casinos simply get rid of the known AP-able games?
    Because many recreational gamblers enjoy persistent-state games where they make progress towards some goal, like a must-hit jackpot, banked free games, etc.

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    Yes, I understand...but are ALL such games AP-able?

    If only a handful are regularly focused on why not get rid of just them and leave the rest?
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Yes, I understand...but are ALL such games AP-able?

    If only a handful are regularly focused on why not get rid of just them and leave the rest?
    Flat static game play is boring.

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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Yes, I understand...but are ALL such games AP-able?

    If only a handful are regularly focused on why not get rid of just them and leave the rest?
    Through analytics, casinos have determined that getting rid of most campers (via loyalty card nullification - since they build up their cards playing persistent state games in -EV states a majority of the time) and leaving the selection of persistent-state games is more profitable than getting rid of that selection of persistent-state games and alienating a large percentage of recreational players. Throwing out the baby with the bath water is probably not an unreasonable way of stating this. Yes of course there are some recreational players that will play non-persistent state games like that 2x3x5x diamond slot that you wrote that you like on a few occasions, but many players like these goal-buildup games.

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    Thanks.

    I never really paid attention to the persistent-state games nor any of the other new ones, the ones with large curved screens for example.

    Are most new games persistent-state?
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Thanks.

    I never really paid attention to the persistent-state games nor any of the other new ones, the ones with large curved screens for example.

    Are most new games persistent-state?
    I think about 10% of the new games coming out are persistent-state, but regardless of the actual percentage, it certainly isn't a majority. There are other games that look like they are persistent state that aren't - for example the size of pots grow, but they have an equal chance of triggering regardless of size. These pseudo-persistent games represent a growing percentage of the remaining 90%. And of course the remainder of new games are just visual extravaganzas with elaborate bonus rounds and multiple types of bonus rounds on the same game.

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    I imagine that it keeps people who think that they're outsmarting something, on a fairly low-income path, as a means of shills for the various games - shills are no longer allowed directly. Evidenced by the slow death of commercial gambling, along with the gambling forums. The casinos orchestrate all of it.

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    I think the logical answer is because the casinos make their hold regardless. If APs make money from ploppies loading up the games, then they're being played. Why get rid of them?? The main motivation for casinos to do something about vultures is they may be making other players uncomfortable. The card building issue is a simple fix, shut down unprofitable accounts.

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    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    I think the logical answer is because the casinos make their hold regardless. If APs make money from ploppies loading up the games, then they're being played. Why get rid of them?? The main motivation for casinos to do something about vultures is they may be making other players uncomfortable. The card building issue is a simple fix, shut down unprofitable accounts.
    APs tend to leave games in states that are far below RTP. This means a far worse experience for slot players. Rr or fudai are 2 examples. Both quite fun but play the game at the wrong time... actually I'm not sure rtp of empty Fudai bags but in general .. misc behaviors.

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    Hexbreaker 3 must have been one of the all time worst for this. (Meaning the EV of playing with a center column 3).

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    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    In the "Professional Sports Betting" thread, the poster or posters going by the handle "Kewlj" accused me in public of past posting a report of my results. Since my post in question was both dated and timed, I have to assume he libeled me on purpose.

    Those who have any familiarity with Past Posting incidents in Las Vegas realize this kind of thing has a long and storied history, with some notable specific events leading to relatively famous people being "put on the bus" and told to not come back. Accusing someone of Past Posting also has a long history in sports handicapping literature, with multiple monitors having been caught doing just that and publishing faked results.

    Since this "KewlJ" character claims to have lived in Las Vegas for decades, and since this same "KewlJ" has been posting many times regarding sports gambling, he is clearly knowledgeable regarding the history of Past Posting in both Las Vegas and sports handicapping.

    Thus, his accusations regarding me come from both a person who has the experience to know better and who also knows the impact those accusations have on professionals in the sports handicapping business.

    I demand an in-person discussion regarding these posts with both Todd Witteles and the person known as "KewlJ." I've been sports handicapping as a public professional for 45 years. If someone is going to accuse me of past posting, that is an accusation of fraud and is clearly libelous. Since I have stated my real name and address on this forum many times, the intent of "KewlJ" was clear.

    My address is:

    Robert Dietz
    142 Forrest Dale Lane
    Johnson City, TN 37604

    My email is:

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    I will give you 30 days to respond. I demand an in-person meeting with both Mr. Witteles and this "KewlJ" poster.
    You cannot be libeled because you are just a character here, we don't use our real names, so we are not ourselves and this is artistic expression which includes some real things but is not all real. When I started posting, I posted like this when I first posted:


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    He uses his real name and despite his seemingly high opinion of himself I question whether a court would consider him a "public figure" for purposes of defamation, so IN THEORY he COULD bring a claim for libel but obviously it's just bluster.

    KJ immediately explained his mistaken belief which led to the post in question...so there's that.

    More importantly is the fact that someone claiming they were libeled must prove not only a libelous statement but also damages flowing from it, and that he cannot do.

    Oh yeah...he'd need to have a lot of money to pay a lawyer....
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