The reality of VCT

[MDawg]

In a way, VCT has become like oral argument day at the US Supreme Court.

When someone makes a post here he's not even doing it to get a response from whomever the post is directed at, but rather to get the OTHERS to see his point of view, and see why the person against or about whom the post is made, is wrong.

That's the way it works at the US Supreme Court. When one of the judges asks a question, he is less interested in the answer for himself, but for the justice down the row he is hoping to sway to his side.

[monet]

In a way, VCT has become like oral argument day at the US Supreme Court.

When someone makes a post here he's not even doing it to get a response from whomever the post is directed at, but rather to get the OTHERS to see his point of view, and see why the person against or about whom the post is made, is wrong.

That's the way it works at the US Supreme Court. When one of the judges asks a question, he is less interested in the answer for himself, but for the justice down the row he is hoping to sway to his side.

I don't have this problem.
When tableplay makes a post, I usually respond.

[Keystone]

In a way, VCT has become like oral argument day at the US Supreme Court.

When someone makes a post here he's not even doing it to get a response from whomever the post is directed at, but rather to get the OTHERS to see his point of view, and see why the person against or about whom the post is made, is wrong.

That's the way it works at the US Supreme Court. When one of the judges asks a question, he is less interested in the answer for himself, but for the justice down the row he is hoping to sway to his side.

Can everyone say “Weirdo”?

[terapinedtheskeptic]

In a way, VCT has become like oral argument day at the US Supreme Court.

When someone makes a post here he's not even doing it to get a response from whomever the post is directed at, but rather to get the OTHERS to see his point of view, and see why the person against or about whom the post is made, is wrong.

That's the way it works at the US Supreme Court. When one of the judges asks a question, he is less interested in the answer for himself, but for the justice down the row he is hoping to sway to his side.

Can everyone say “Weirdo”?

Weirdo
Hes comparing this cesspool he is creating to the Supreme Court
and
He's creating an entirely new thread to push this absurd argument
No, your incessant hatred of Kewlj turning this pace into a cesspool cant be compared to the supreme court. Not even a kangaroo court lol
You are flailing. Better call "daddy" Belly to the rescue

[kewlJ]

God I am tired of this sick shit from this narcissist fraud and completely crazy person, Mdawg.

The problem with VCT is him (and a few others) and their lying and slanderous attacks, not just with me, but with others, including some real and legit players . Dan Druff calls it free speech. It isn't free speech to say the things said about me, not just once but 100's of times. accusations of criminal activity. Does anyone really think Dan Druff would sit by quietly if someone were posting 5 times a day that he was a drug dealer, selling drugs to elementary school kids. That is how he makes his money when not playing poker.

Of course he wouldn't. THAT is not just fun trolling. It is not free speech. It is slander! And for what? because there are people that don't believe Mdawgs fantastical stories of winning every day, winning millions of dollars and the casinos not caring and embracing him. For THAT he slander and attacks not just me but every person that dares voice that opinion. I believe his goal is to scare people into not voicing their opinion.

Well that doesn't work with me. I am a fulltime AP living and playing Vegas. I don't play blackjack as much as I used to when I was a grinder type player playing everyday (which I did for 10+ years), as I do more APing from home, but I still get out and play a couple times a week and I know how things work and it just isn't what Mdawg claims.

I think most people here KNOW that I am a real player, who has lived and played this town. They seem to want to troll me and suggest I am lying. I still believe that is about something else, something not even related to gambling. And if they don't KNOW that, well that is on them, not me. I have demonstrated more than enough that I know what I am talking about that should satisfy anyone. If they aren't satisfied....they don't want to be satisfied. NOTHING will satisfy them.

Just look at this week. one of the big things has been that no one knows or has met me (which is the way I want it really). A top AP at WoV who has been there for 14 years, a guy who has teamed and played with a very top AP that everyone knows, came out and said he met me a decade ago and has seen me since. And he is the second one to say thatin the past few years. So that stupid shit is out the window. And of course Mdawgs play is to now attack that guy. And the rest of you say nothing. sick!

As far as this site, it is sad that most legitimate players and APs that do participate on forums and public platforms want no part of this forum. They really do call it a cellspool or the urinal when the speak of it on other forums. And yes, several that I have mentioned in the past have asked me not to even say their name or handle here. Just think about that for a second. That is the level they view this forum at. Don't even say my name. These are real players. Top players.

Forget the names "the urinal" and "cesspool". This forum is nothing but a forum where slander is permitted of anyone one that dares say they don't believe some ridiculous claims. That is what you want Druff?

[MDawg]

Kewl is cracking. You can see it right here in real time.

[MDawg]

The problem with VCT is him (and a few others) and their lying and slanderous attacks, not just with me, but with others, including some real and legit players . Dan Druff calls it free speech. It isn't free speech to say the things said about me, not just once but 100's of times. accusations of criminal activity. Does anyone really think Dan Druff would sit by quietly if someone were posting 5 times a day that he was a drug dealer, selling drugs to elementary school kids. That is how he makes his money when not playing poker.

You do everything you accuse others of when it suits your purpose: racial slurs, threats, repeating embellishments or outright lies about others over and over. Obviously you are so deluded you have no idea even who you are. I'm coming to understand you must actually believe everything you say, even the lies you tell yourself about yourself. I agree with AinQ, I don't want to chase you off the forum either, just get help. Seriously you need a therapist to help you connect with reality.

Trying so hard to be a victim after the shit KJ has said about shack and qfit. People have a problem with you primarily because you’re as big of a self righteous hypocrite as there is in this world.

I'll bet I can find a study that concludes that anyone on an internet forum or social media that chooses "coach" as part of their handles is a known child molester.

you MDAWG, are the patron that hired a hooker, took her back to his room and was drugged and robbed of a rolex up her coochie. So tell us, do you write that off as business expense?

It is slander!

When are you going to STOP being a hypocrite?

[kewlJ]

You are a very sick dog (not Dawg, but dog). You are a narcissist, liar, very insecure and small person and a degenerate losing type gambler telling a story. And seemingly angry as hell at real players that win using math and advantage play techniques. You are the absolute person the casinos want. Someone that loses money in exchange for some overpriced comps worth a tiny fraction of his losses. That is the casino model and Mdawg fits it perfectly.

This will be my copy and paste response to every Mdawg post from here on out.

[terapinedtheskeptic]

Trying so hard to be a victim after the shit KJ has said about shack and qfit. People have a problem with you primarily because you’re as big of a self righteous hypocrite as there is in this world.

I'll bet I can find a study that concludes that anyone on an internet forum or social media that chooses "coach" as part of their handles is a known child molester.

you MDAWG, are the patron that hired a hooker, took her back to his room and was drugged and robbed of a rolex up her coochie. So tell us, do you write that off as business expense?

It is slander!

When are you going to STOP being a hypocrite?

Talking about flailing
Just a bunch of old quotes with nothing to say
Just flooding with obsessive hate
Looks like Daddy Belly was unavailable

[MisterV]

The tick-infested hound titles his rant "The reality of vct."

I have to laugh while asking "What the hell does this phony-baloney know about REALITY?"

[theywontpayontuesday]

You are not really innocent KJ. Also, sorry but not only do you not have any reputation to be ruined, you are not harmed. MDawg is slandering an online persona at best and not the person behind the persona.

[Dan Druff]

God I am tired of this sick shit from this narcissist fraud and completely crazy person, Mdawg.

The problem with VCT is him (and a few others) and their lying and slanderous attacks, not just with me, but with others, including some real and legit players . Dan Druff calls it free speech. It isn't free speech to say the things said about me, not just once but 100's of times. accusations of criminal activity. Does anyone really think Dan Druff would sit by quietly if someone were posting 5 times a day that he was a drug dealer, selling drugs to elementary school kids. That is how he makes his money when not playing poker.

Of course he wouldn't. THAT is not just fun trolling. It is not free speech. It is slander! And for what? because there are people that don't believe Mdawgs fantastical stories of winning every day, winning millions of dollars and the casinos not caring and embracing him. For THAT he slander and attacks not just me but every person that dares voice that opinion. I believe his goal is to scare people into not voicing their opinion.

1) It wouldn't be slander because it's not spoken. If there were defamation here, it would be libel.

2) It's not libel because it's impossible to libel the forum character named "kewlJ". Anonymous internet forum identities cannot be libeled.

3) You can't complain about supposed lies told about you if you are the king of lying yourself.

[Dan Druff]

The actual reality of VCT is that it's an alternative to WoV and other AP-related forums, where the rules here are far more lax.

That's pretty much it. I guess it has the additional twist that it was transferred in the middle of its existence to a new owner (me), and the original founder passed away 2 years ago. But I've definitely kept the general look and tone of the forum similar to the original. Fortunately, Alan and I both believed in light moderation of the forum.

[monet]

How long is the RIP Mendlebread sign gonna stay up on VCT??
Aren't we all past the grieving process?
Where the Fuck did the Monopoly Thread go??

[tableplay]

Where the Fuck did the Monopoly Thread go??

I was wondering the exact same thing. That was the best part of VCT by a mile.

[kewlJ]

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3) You can't complain about supposed lies told about you if you are the king of lying yourself.

Just Stop it Dan Druff. Yes, I have had to lie and misdirect a few times. Because there is a fucktard on this forum literally stalking me using everything, every word I say to try to identify me so he can dox me and God knows what? Did you read any of what happened at WoV this week? A longtime member, known AP mentioned that he had met me years ago and seen me several times since, and Fucktard Mdawg immediately PMed him asking for information and descriptions of me (revealed by that member).

Anyway, despite having to lie a couple times and admitting it, I also share more blackjack gambling details of what I do than almost anyone here. Included are details of techniques I use and things I do, that aren't your basic card counting stuff.

You don't have to like or appreciate me, but be fair about what I give to this forum. Is that too much to ask?

[kewlJ]

The actual reality of VCT is that it's an alternative to WoV and other AP-related forums, where the rules here are far more lax.

Trolling and disruptive shit has taken over every gambling forum. Maybe every forum, from what it was 10-12 years ago when I started on forums. And it isn't just friendly ribbing type trolling. it had grown into literally stalking abusive type trolling. Your "lax rules" and non enforcement of rules" just make it harder to police. It just turns it into a 3rd word country. THAT isn't free speech. repeating lies about someone hundreds of time, just is not free speech. You can think it is, but it isn't.

[smurgerburger]

KJ, if you hadn't so shrewdly employed misdirection all these years who knows what dangerous fate the stalkers and haters would have subjected you to?

[MisterV]

And if KJ hadn't posted what he has this place would be empty.

Dan, you fucking OWE KJ for drawing eyeballs and posts...not that you give a flying fuck, or that you even should care about this den of pestilence.

[soxfan]

Bbbbbwwwwwaaaahhhh, the Dan Druff declare the kewl-J to be the KING of bulls-shittings, hey hey!!!!