The reality of VCT

[coach belly]

I doubt Boz still agrees with you now
I didn't mind the extra service fee

Yeah...he shamed you and you finally squared up, with interest.

So what does this show...that the Boz, just like the Wizard, can be bought off?

[MisterV]

Yes KJ, we know...the hound lies like the dog he is.

We get it...at least most of us do.

BUT (and it's a big but) Dan has a pretty much anything goes attitude here, so the hound's bullshit is allowed.

Like you, I take a bit of umbrage at his barrage of blathering bullshit yet unlike you I try not to let it work on my mind like a brain worm.

Best just to point and laugh at him as opposed to getting trapped in his web of lies.

The guy's got mental issues, and folks like that should be kept at arm's length if not much further.

[kewlJ]

Yes KJ, we know...the hound lies like the dog he is.

We get it...at least most of us do.

BUT (and it's a big but) Dan has a pretty much anything goes attitude here, so the hound's bullshit is allowed.

Like you, I take a bit of umbrage at his barrage of blathering bullshit yet unlike you I try not to let it work on my mind like a brain worm.

Best just to point and laugh at him as opposed to getting trapped in his web of lies.

The guy's got mental issues, and folks like that should be kept at arm's length if not much further.

That is fine MrV. I just feel a little differently, a little stronger about it.

WoV and here at VCT are supposed to be gambling forums. We can argue over how far both have moved from that, but that is what they are supposed to be.

When someone comes along spewing the absurd claims that Mdawg does....they should be called out on it by real players recreational and AP alike. And if the person repeats the same absurd claims the next day (or 30 minutes later) they should be called out again. And again. And again. Everytime they made ridiculous claims that just defy everything, they should be challenged and called out. Doesn't matter if it is Mdawg and all his winning and 1-50 spreads and 60 winning hands in a row, or EvenBob/Spike and his 80% roulette winning system, or Soxfan claiming he wins 600k a year at only 2-3 casinos that don't care. All this shit should be called out on a gambling forum, EVERY time it is posted.

Now if people, real players find something I have said or claimed to be absurd, I welcome them saying so. I will try to explain anything they might not understand or that I didn't explain well before. Usually they are not interested in that, but I will attempt.

BUT I just object to what is supposed to be a gambling forum, saying nothing about the level of scammy claims that Mdawg makes on an almost daily basis.

Now maybe that is my problem. Maybe that is my fault for still thinking this forum has even the slightest thing to do with gambling anymore. I mean if it is absolutely nothing but a cesspool type troll forum where all that matters is who gets the best attack on someone then I guess it doesn't matter.

When someone posts a picture of themselves in an RV at the dealership claiming it is his, then we have probably moved completely away from any sense of reality. Past the point of no return. The barn door is closed and bolted shut. I guess THAT was the day VCT ceased being anything but a place where Mdawg's bullshit is tolerated.

[jdog]

Now if people, real players find something I have said or claimed to be absurd, I welcome them saying so.

We have, but you seem undeterred.

if it is absolutely nothing but a cesspool type troll forum where all that matters is who gets the best attack on someone

Now you're getting it...

[MisterV]

I've a better opinion of this site than that; sure, there's a lot of trolling going on, but hell that's the New Norm across the internet: nothing new.

There are a lot of gambling related topics discussed here, so yeah, it's still a gambling forum.

KJ, like you I too sometimes feel compelled to gainsay some nugget of nonsense spewed by the tick-rideen chihuahua, and it feels good to do so, sort of like taking a healthy shit after a day or two of being constipated.

But he refuses to change his shtick, it's always SS, DD with him: the relentless troll simply HAS to have the final say on most any subject.

His mind may be defective but his keyboarding skills are perfect, alas...

In the end he's sort of like the crazy uncle the family keeps locked up in the attic: we see him yelling and threatening from the dormer window while we play outside, wondering "WTF is that guy's problem?"

[pinchingyourballs]

When someone comes along spewing the absurd claims that Mdawg does....they should be called out on it by real players recreational and AP alike. And if the person repeats the same absurd claims the next day (or 30 minutes later) they should be called out again. And again. And again. Everytime they made ridiculous claims that just defy everything, they should be challenged and called out.

You cannot dictate how people respond to one another, especially on an anonymous forum. Your anger over something so petty suggest you are not in charge of much in real life. You really need some non-gambling hobbies as much as Tasha does.

[MDawg]

And is utterly incapable of keeping to any resolve.

So I bid you farewell.

Sure sign of a real winner at the tables where resolve grit and determination may make all the difference.

[jdaewoo]

This retard thinks "grit and determination" are what you need to win at the tables. What you need is an edge, you retard.

[soxfan]

The kewl-J lies about everything under a sun; so why in the name of Zeus would you assume that he's being truths-full when he claim to be a successful 21 cards-counter/ap, hey hey????

[kewlJ]

This retard thinks "grit and determination" are what you need to win at the tables. What you need is an edge, you retard.

This right here is what really irks me about this guy and his claims.

Early on he claimed he was able to win because he had a large bankroll.
Then he said "bets into hot streaks"
Then he claimed he was rainman with total recall.
Now it is "grit and determination" at the tables.

These are all voodoo gambling bullshit!! Never the mention of anything that would provide a real mathematical advantage.

The other day he said he had a "goal" of winning $40,000 and low and behold, he won $40,000. This grit and determination and "willing" to win is some powerful shit. Why doesn't every -EV degenerate type gambler try or "will" to win?

And I am the bad guy for calling out VOODOO!

[redietz]

Two sides; same coin.

Heads: grit and determination are why Michael Jordan has dropped tens of millions gambling.

Tails: Kewlj's "misdirection" is a curious and obvious way of pooh-poohing outright lying. Lying in the service of...what? I notice when kewlJ (whichever one of them it is) goes off on me, he basically tries some pastiche of garbage that is 80% incorrect. If that's what he declares regarding me, who considers him nothing more than a nuisance bullshitter, what percent of what he actually posts regarding important stuff is bullshit? My opinion -- probably almost all of it.


Again, MDawg, if you quote me directly on this, I expect a SECOND cup of Starbucks coffee at the Nugget. I'm too cheap to pay the $6 tariff.

[MisterV]

These are all voodoo gambling bullshit!!

The hound and Even Bob: two (dodo) birds of a feather playing at gambling voodoo together.

Twins separated at birth?

*golf clap*

[redietz]

I gotta caution you, V. The more I experience kewlJ, the more likely I think it's smoke and mirrors. He declared something in his post vis-a-vis moi that all I do is contests and this and that, and that's all obvious bullshit. If he's going to blatantly lie about a real person, then what exactly are you supposed to take as gospel with his posts?

He lives in LV (allegedly), and to check on me all he has to do is make a couple semi-obvious calls or look up some old copies of this and that at Gamblers' Book Club. He clearly either (A) hasn't done that or (B) has and decided to lie, which is par for the kewlJ "misdirection" course.

[monet]

I gotta caution you, V. The more I experience kewlJ, the more likely I think it's smoke and mirrors. He declared something in his post vis-a-vis moi that all I do is contests and this and that, and that's all obvious bullshit. If he's going to blatantly lie about a real person, then what exactly are you supposed to take as gospel with his posts?

He lives in LV (allegedly), and to check on me all he has to do is make a couple semi-obvious calls or look up some old copies of this and that at Gamblers' Book Club. He clearly either (A) hasn't done that or (B) has and decided to lie, which is par for the kewlJ "misdirection" course.

kewlJ is more than one person posting on that username which is why the discrepancies have wild variance.

[MisterV]

No end to the "colorful" characters spinning dizzily around in this toilet, eh?

KJ and Robert are harmless; the hound not so much, as his agenda is self-aggrandizement via immolation of any opposition; that might have worked for Trump but this guy, he ain't Trump.

[kewlJ]

He lives in LV (allegedly), and to check on me all he has to do is make a couple semi-obvious calls or look up some old copies of this and that at Gamblers' Book Club. He clearly either (A) hasn't done that or (B) has and decided to lie, which is par for the kewlJ "misdirection" course.

Druff has confirmed that I live and post (mostly) from Las Vegas, so you throwing an "allegedly" is just you being dishonest and trolling.

Now why the fuck would I make some calls or look up who you are or were? I never doubted that you are basically who you are and have made a living involved with sports betting for as long as you say. My only mention of the contests was that it was something I had not heard of or was familiar with, so I was actually giving you credit, for something I didn't know about or hadn't thought of or about.

Look for many years REd, backed me up on most things. So much so that Moses accused us of being the same person. But moses did that with many. Red would say something like because the had spent 100 days a year in Vegas for 40 years he knew some about card counting and how it worked and it was exactly what I claimed. I never really knew if he knew about card counting or not.....and didn't care. But if he did, he didn't understand the relationship between card counters and casinos in regard to the need for anonymity.

I can pinpoint the exact moment Mr Dietz (is that your name? ) turned on me. It was last September when I started bonus whoring online casino sportsbooks. Just as he had done with mickeycrimm and axelwolf before me, Redietz seemed to have a real problem with anyone winning some money betting sports. How dare these lowly APs find something +Ev they can do with sports. It was like he felt that was his turf or something. THAT is when Red turned on me.

I don't care. I am not on any forum looking for friendship. There are some people I am friendly with and enjoy and even consider online friends like MrV. Actually Red used to be in that group. If they don't feel the same way or anyone, any member anywhere chooses not to believe something I share, I am fine with that. I would prefer it be based on merit and not some shit about me they don't like that has nothing to do with gambling or gambling claims, but I really can't control that. people can hate if they want to hate...for whatever reason.

And if you hate and lie about me, including my family I will probably respond back with the same at some point. Especially if you do so non-stop like Singer and the dawg.

But I don't start out having a problem with anyone, except, if you make some claims about long-term winning at gambling, at least....at very minimum, have something mathematical you can point to that flips the advantage to the player. Don't just repeat and stack long dis-proven voodoo concepts on top of one another.

Gambling is MATH. It isn't all this other nonsense, like grit and determination or any of the other bullshit we read. It isn't special plays. It isn't machines telling you hot and cold cycles. It isn't rainman nonsense. It is Math. If you are going to make long-term claims of winning....have some math to back it up. Is THAT really too much to ask?

[MDawg]

10x multiplier response is one way to put it.

Another, is that when his lies, shortcomings, mental illness are pointed out it triggers a

[kewlJ]

And MrV is correct in that Singer is harmless now. BUT he is only harmless because he was completely exposed. I would say the day that happened was the day he climbed into an RV at the dealership. But it happened because he was so desperate to prove his BS to all of us that didn't believe him.

So it is a process. Mdawg is still in the part where he still repeats his bullshit claims. he has started to expose himself, like the day he retracted millions in winnings to "about even", but he is still trying. So he isn't harmless yet. maybe some day, but until that day, when he claims he wins 140k over 3 days and casinos don't care and casino personal are so happy for him they forget to charge the commission at baccarat, or the pit guy was actually worried "for him", or he claims he wins by any number of voodoo concepts, I am going to be there to say. That is bullshit. Save that fiction for that writers forum of people writing stories. Dont bring it to gambling forums with real players and advantage players.

[AxelWolf]

I am going to reneg here for a minute...and on the first day. I am just not going to allow Mdawg to get away with this.

The dawg is in his glory, that Druff slapped me down for lying citing something from 15 years ago on another forum (which I admitted and explained and am not proud of), while Druff ignores Mdawg total fabrication of his entire existence on these forums.

Case in point: This weekend: Mdawg has posted 3 gambling reports, all winning reports, totaling $148,400 in winnings. Never a losing day with this guy. Never heat or any concern from the casino. Because that is the way Las Vegas works. He even wrote that the dealers were so happy for him that they forgot to charge commission. Sure THAT is believable. And then he comes here and attacks a guy who shares real gambling experiences, winning and losing, heat and backoffs and what he does to minimize the casino concerns.

Now Mdawg is prepared to "prove" this latest claim with some pictures of chips and casino check at the cashier cage. And he is just dying for someone to challenge him so he can do so. So let me explain how that part of his "scam" works before he even does so.

When Mdawg shows pictures of chips and casino checks for his winnings, they are not his. Several days ago, he said he was in town with some high roller friends, maybe his father or someone else, probably family. This high roller friend is the one that bets big wins and loses, which is why he is tolerated and comped so well and Mdawg comes along posting about all the winning...no losing and posting pictures from the winning sessions.

Some high roller is going to have some winning sessions, maybe even 100k. But he will also have some big losing sessions as well. Mdawg just uses his high roller friend for the pictures of chips and stuff as "proof" for any challenges to his nothing-but-winning-reports. Well, they are nothing but winning for now. In several months, Wizard is liable to come along and force him to say he was about even for this weekend and not 148,000 ahead.

It is Mikki Maze level bullshit. And yet, I am the liar. Me, the guy who shares my winning and losing, sometimes long losing periods. I am the bad guy.

And Druff, well he doesn't read the totality of this scammers claims because most are on another forum (where Druff IS a member), but yet, he calls me a liar citing something from another forum 15 years ago that I admitted.

But in the end, this really isn't about gambling is it? And this really isn't a gambling forum is it? But Mdawg is a Mikki Maze type scammer.

The nerve of me posting this, when I said I wouldn't.

It is a BS challenge for many reasons but let's look at the situation.

>>"If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate"<<

>>"This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip" <<

Great but here is the kicker.......

>>"Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played."<<

At some point, I do believe he even said it could be delayed much longer.

Let's say I know it particular insider at a casino that could get me this information.

ME: "Hey Joe, can you get me some information on a particular players baccarat play?

Joe: Sure Axel, what's his name? Me: Oh fuck, I don't remember, I didn't really care too. He claims to have one exactly $228,000, do you have anyone that won that amount playing Baccarat?

Joe: Perhaps I can get you that information Axel, what day did he play?

Me: Well fuck Joe, I don't know what day he played, due to my suggestion he pretends for security reasons his reports presented are not in real-time directly corresponding to the day played.

Joe: "Yeah, well, I don't, really know what to tell you. Oh wait, we did have some dumbass bozo in here peacocking around wearing some dumbass knockoff coat with some fake watches and rusted fake gold paper clip who won $2,228. I only noticed because he was with a friend who was betting the exact opposite and lost. We don't really care because we make our HA.

[kewlJ]

And I don't care that he is a stinky Arab.

I don't care that he may come from money (although not what he tries to portray).

I don't care if he is a lawyer or was a lawyer.

I don't care about his "trophy wife" (his words and pretty chauvinistic) She probably doesn't give him any which is why he hires prostittues who steal his watches up their coochie) But that is all his business.

I don't care that he fucks camels. (other than from an animal rights standpoint).

I just don't give a shit about what ever is missing from this dudes life that he needs to post all this shit.

BUT just don't come to a gambling forum that I am on and talk about long-term winning and all the other bullshit gambling claims and shit you say and expect me not to say something. It is just bullshit.