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  1. #1
    I will not name the casino, but I will tell you that it's an independent property in Vegas, and I had never been backed off there. I also hadn't played blackjack there since the early 2010s. When I did play, I encountered zero heat, and lost a few hundred dollars before quitting. I did use a card.

    I returned to the casino in December 2024, and sat at the only non-continuous shuffler table, $25 minimum. They demand ID from everyone to play.

    I gave mine, and asked them to reprint me a card.

    I played about 9 hands and never raised my bet over $25, for reasons I'm sure you all can guess.

    The pit boss came to me and said, "Todd, I'm afraid this is going to have to be your last hand. You can't play at this table."

    I asked him why, and he said it was a "decision from upstairs". I asked if I was being banned from the casino, he said no. I asked if I could play any other blackjack table besides this one, and he said yes.

    I left the joint, $25 down.

    Clearly they were protecting the only non-CSM table, but I've never seen anything like this before.

    ID requirement to play? Kicking me before I ever raise my bet? Being banned from the game despite having no negative history there, no play in over a decade, and very few overall sessions lifetime? Having one non-CSM table which they guard like Fort Knox?

    Bizarre.
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  2. #2
    Interesting. Questions if I may:

    You say they requested ID from everyone. Some of the east coast locations like Atlantic City do that but I have never encountered that in Vegas. Younger looking people and people they already have some reason to suspect sure. So what did they do with the IDs? Obviously not just look, checking age, but ran through something that flagged you. It would be disturbing if this east coast "trend" where moving west. But like I said, I haven't encountered it.

    I would love to know the casino and see no reason for you to protect them, but in the absence of that, was it a casino that has either changed hands since you last played? Or have you played somewhere else recently and encountered heat and/or a backoff that might have been entered into a database? And remember, sometimes these entries are made without any kind of incident directly to you. For example, the entry can be made after you have left, when a review was completed, or someone took a second look at your play.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  3. #3
    One other thing: There are certain games that are "counter traps" in Vegas. Often these are better rules/lower HA double deck games. And one of the things you will notice is that there is only the one double deck game. Your case sounds a little different but similar with only 1 non-CSM game. Haven't encountered it, but almost sounds like the same kind of trap. Question: did they demand ID from everyone at only that table by chance?

    I have a long list of quotes from a guy who posts as bigplayer on forums. He was/is a long time member of one of the top card counting teams for decades (not MIT) and lives or did last I heard in Vegas. Big player had a quote that to avoid any kind of counter identifying trap and prolong longevity, you should identify the best game in the casino and avoid it. Just food for thought.

    Again, I would love to know the casino and am not sure why you don't want to publicly name it as it doesn't sound like you have much of a future there counting cards. Plus they already have identified YOU. But if you still don't want to name them, would you share that in private?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    This dude is a fraud. He just tries to piece together things that he imagines goes on based on a culmination of bits and pieces of stories he pulls from the Internet. Clown world.
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  5. #5
    Really!! You are going to hijack forum owner Dan Druff's thread with you obsessive trolling?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by Punkcity
    Unfortunately you have ZERO credibility bukkake boy.
    You back flip on ALL of your statements of abstaining from interactions with posters here.

    You are an emotionally hijacked puppet twitching in the male urinal , no one believes a word you post. The above statement by you is a worthless piece of garbage as per usual.
    Boogie woogie bukkake boy from company B . ( B for bullshit of course)
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  7. #7
    It wouldn't surprise me if Dan started this thread to further reel in kew, sporting more of his gleaning of other real blackjack players' knowledge and experiences in order to continue on with his "convincing" program.

    And now kew claims to be able to meaningfully count 3 tables. He's convinced HIMSELF that everyone believes he's aced the 2 table count. The Munch on steroids....with a twist: they're both wimpy/they're both gimpy. But Munchkin has a good reputation.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me if Dan started this thread to further reel in kew, sporting more of his gleaning of other real blackjack players' knowledge and experiences in order to continue on with his "convincing" program.

    And now kew claims to be able to meaningfully count 3 tables. He's convinced HIMSELF that everyone believes he's aced the 2 table count. The Munch on steroids....with a twist: they're both wimpy/they're both gimpy. But Munchkin has a good reputation.
    As if anyone cares what YOU think, you old demented fool.

    If I was interested in a colored persons opinion about blackjack, I would sooner ask Tasha. After all she is a "blackjack pro" according to one of her handles.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me if Dan started this thread to further reel in kew, sporting more of his gleaning of other real blackjack players' knowledge and experiences in order to continue on with his "convincing" program.

    And now kew claims to be able to meaningfully count 3 tables. He's convinced HIMSELF that everyone believes he's aced the 2 table count. The Munch on steroids....with a twist: they're both wimpy/they're both gimpy. But Munchkin has a good reputation.
    As if anyone cares what YOU think, you old demented fool.

    If I was interested in a colored persons opinion about blackjack, I would sooner ask Tasha. After all she is a "blackjack pro" according to one of her handles.
    The Blackjackpro Sock name was a HUGE mistake. I am no Blackjack Professional and got ragged and dragged so hard over that Sock name and my CLEARLY not being a Blackjack Professional. I asked Norm to change it to Blackjack Newbie, something I should have named that Sock in the first place. Norm changed it to Blackjack Newbie.
    Take comfort in the fact that no one is actually backing up his wishes to have you permanently banned.


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  10. #10
    Originally Posted by Tasha View Post
    The Blackjackpro Sock name was a HUGE mistake. I am no Blackjack Professional and got ragged and dragged so hard over that Sock name and my CLEARLY not being a Blackjack Professional. I asked Norm to change it to Blackjack Newbie, something I should have named that Sock in the first place. Norm changed it to Blackjack Newbie.
    I am aware Tasha. It was humor.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    sporting more of his gleaning of other real blackjack players' knowledge and experiences in order to continue on with his "convincing" program.
    Rob, before whoever is babysitting you locks you away for a nap, let me ask you this: This charge that you have repeated and gotten others to repeat, that my knowledge is really other people's knowledge....what if that were true? Would it really matter, as long as the knowledge being shared was valid, mathematical knowledge that works, as to playing with an advantage?

    Because in a sense that is what most of us do. That is what knowledge is. Things you learn from other players, forums and books, which are other players passing on knowledge. I mean there is only a handful of mickeycrimms and axelwolfs and a few others that can look at a gambling opportunity and figure the advantage out for themselves.

    And I have always said, what I do is mostly learned from others. A little bit of my own twist and trial and error, but mostly learned from other players. I am not ashamed of that. So what is your problem grandpa?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  12. #12
    A Jew, an Arab and a gay walk into a casino to play Blackjack………

  13. #13
    Dan,
    did you try to order a whole pizza from the food court before you sat down?
    Keep your friends close, keep your drinks closer...

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    A Jew, an Arab and a gay walk into a casino to play Blackjack………
    Well THIS gay guy wouldn't play at the same table as Druff. But I would play at the same table as the smelly Arab. Tell me why?
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  15. #15
    A quick Google search using your name would indicate that you are a poker pro.
    Casinos are going to be suspicious about a poker pro playing non poker games.
    Especially when it's a known vulnerable game like blackjack.
    From their point of view it's would be better to bump you rather than take a chance you are a card counter.
    Looks like the casino was right.

    Perhaps they might have found out you are connected to KJ the famous blackjack pro.

  16. #16
    I am wondering if Druff's use of the term "indepedent" means not associated with any other casinos anywhere or just here in Vegas?

    There really are only a. Small handful of casinos not associated with ANY other casinos anywhere and you can throw out F Bleau because it is not 10 years old.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    UNKewlJ has remained consistent in being
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    the king of lying
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  18. #18
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    sporting more of his gleaning of other real blackjack players' knowledge and experiences in order to continue on with his "convincing" program.
    Rob, before whoever is babysitting you locks you away for a nap, let me ask you this: This charge that you have repeated and gotten others to repeat, that my knowledge is really other people's knowledge....what if that were true? Would it really matter, as long as the knowledge being shared was valid, mathematical knowledge that works, as to playing with an advantage?

    Because in a sense that is what most of us do. That is what knowledge is. Things you learn from other players, forums and books, which are other players passing on knowledge. I mean there is only a handful of mickeycrimms and axelwolfs and a few others that can look at a gambling opportunity and figure the advantage out for themselves.

    And I have always said, what I do is mostly learned from others. A little bit of my own twist and trial and error, but mostly learned from other players. I am not ashamed of that. So what is your problem grandpa?
    No one ever said the information you continue to plagiarize wasn't good, mathematically sound stuff. That's what serious, serious phonies do--they use other people's info as a way of deceiving readers into believing they're the ticket.

    No one's locking anyone up around here. We're in Little Canada, Mn. getting ready to take our entire family out to Porterhouse Steakhouse. So while you're shoving down some cheap & greasy Victory Burger fries or some of that disgustingly thick and slimy pork belly from Bacon Nation--par for the course for LV slug gambling addicts--think of me gobbling down a prawn cocktail or crab cakes just before those delicious lobster tails.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me if Dan started this thread to further reel in kew, sporting more of his gleaning of other real blackjack players' knowledge and experiences in order to continue on with his "convincing" program.

    And now kew claims to be able to meaningfully count 3 tables. He's convinced HIMSELF that everyone believes he's aced the 2 table count. The Munch on steroids....with a twist: they're both wimpy/they're both gimpy. But Munchkin has a good reputation.
    Actually counting 2 or 3 tables is really quite easy.

    Look there’s some tables over there! One, two, three! I counted them.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by DGenBen View Post
    Look there’s some tables over there! One, two, three! I counted them.
    Haha! Except, that isn't the way card counting works. You aren't really counting anything, except maybe when you first start out. You aren't sitting there doing some kind of running count +1, +2, +1, +2, +1, 0, -1, 0. What you are doing is canceling cards at a glimpse.

    If you look at a table and see hands of A,6, 8,5,7, 9,J; 8,8,3; 5,4; You don't even see the 5 cards that are 7,8,9, You see 3 high cards (10 value and ace) and 5 low cards (2-6) that cancel out for a total of +2. Half a blink of an eye and those 13 cards register as +2. No counting. And then you start to see that everywhere. Every table you look at, whether blackjack or not, in a half blink of an eye, you pick up a count. You are on auto pilot. That is when tracking a second and or 3rd table occurs. You don't even practice it. It just happens.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 12-19-2024 at 05:39 PM.
    Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".

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