The Alan's Motives Thread

**Rob.Singer** · 08-25-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by arcimede$

I see you're still trying to attack my wife. Once again that is obvious evidence that you felt the sting of my last comment. Yes, you look foolish claiming both math and some other concept beyond math. It's beyond idiotic and that's how you look when you make those kind of claims.

Of course, the more idiotic you look, it also paints those who have believed your lies as suckers. You're starting to lose your grip. Better attack my wife some more. Otherwise, some are going to start wondering about you.

More funny stuff arci, but it goes right along with the chipping away process. And please, how was I "attacking" your poor wife? I'm not the one who has to go out alone all the time

, and that absolutely STINGS, YUP!!

You don't like jatki, do you. Hmmm....you're not letting him get off you're mind very well. I guess I wouldn't either if he I were exposed as the liar you've been about me. But cheer up my friend, everyone's smiling, gaining weight, walking around town, and looking forward to all the things they're going to do together in their retirement years.

Yes, today's happy thought. Everyone has to have hope, and I like to help!

**Rob.Singer** · 08-25-2012, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by redietz

Maybe Rob has "the gift."

Yes I do redietz and thank you so much for bringing it up! My gift is my wonderful wife, and all the things we're blessed with that we can do together as we live the last part of our lives. A good retirement goes a long way you know, and past total respect for one another is what makes for a good retirement. Otherwise, you pay, and you end up trying your darndest not to show any feelings or give any hints at the pain your past actions have caused you and your spouse. But DAMN that chipping away process!

**arcimede$** · 08-25-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

More funny stuff arci, but it goes right along with the chipping away process. And please, how was I "attacking" your poor wife? I'm not the one who has to go out alone all the time

, and that absolutely STINGS, YUP!!

You don't like jatki, do you. Hmmm....you're not letting him get off you're mind very well. I guess I wouldn't either if he I were exposed as the liar you've been about me. But cheer up my friend, everyone's smiling, gaining weight, walking around town, and looking forward to all the things they're going to do together in their retirement years.

Yes, today's happy thought. Everyone has to have hope, and I like to help!

Keeping talking. I can see you straining on every word hoping your flock will believe you. The only problem is you never back up anything you say. What have you provided for Alan? Zippo, no math, no "beyond math", no evidence whatsoever.

Every time you mention my wife you are telling everyone that you don't have a single thing to backup all your lies. Hence, you use that subject to try and deflect from your obvious lack of evidence. All it does is destroy your credibility even more.

BTW, sorry to hear you are gaining weight. Pretty soon you might start to look like jatki.

**Alan Mendelson** · 08-25-2012, 07:59 PM

Come on kids. Wasn't there a special thread designed just for you? Rob, please stop making your comments about Arc's personal life. Arc, you're no angel either.

But I will say this: Rob has said that perhaps in October he will provide more evidence about his system/method. Really, we can't wait till then and then have something substantial to comment on?

Personally, I'm pretty sure that any "math" that Rob presents will be ripped to shreds by the "math people." But then, are we really looking for "math" or are we looking at a system that utilizes other aspects of VP play? The pay table is only one element of "play." Money management including when to cash out can be even more important.

Anyone can win on a negative expectation game. You can win once, you can win twice, you can win every time you play. There is no law that says you must lose, just as there is no law that says when you play a positive pay table you must win.

Honestly, this whole argument is foolish. Rob got lucky and hit big hands, and he was careful not to keep playing and to give back the profits. Good for him. He beat the casinos for nearly a million bucks.

I see small players who sit at 25-cent machines, hit quads for $60 or so and also cash out and go to the buffet. And they can claim to be winners as well even though they are also playing negative paytables.

What I think would be more constructive for everyone is to help people win. Yes, playing the best paytables available will help you win. Money management will also help you win. Saying that someone lied because they won on a negative paytable doing whacky things with the cards they held really doesn't contribute to anyone's interests here except for those who want to play "can you top this" on a public message forum.

**Rob.Singer** · 08-25-2012, 08:17 PM

Alan, there's no "math people" who'll be able to tear what I put up apart. That's because, as you've read, I'm more than likely much more math oriented than any of them. Hacks like arci are all over the Internet. They look for attention, so they try to look impressive by googling everything and put not only that part up, they expand on it with other finds they don't understand. Why arci keeps saying he wants to see the math TODAY! is because he knows he can't so it gives him an obscure moment or two.

Why do I keep needling arci about his personal life? I told you....it's F-U-N!, it constantly reminds him of his mistakes he denies, and it just keeps adding to the overall enjoyment of the chipping away process. When he keeps harping about how bringing up his home troubles is me admitting to something or whatever, that's his way of trying to mask a hidden anger with me. And when he loses it like he does every now and then after not being able to take it anymore, he makes a few "I just got chipped away again" posts loaded with hate, lies, and his famous namecalling

This is great stuff!

**Alan Mendelson** · 08-25-2012, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Why do I keep needling arci about his personal life? I told you....it's F-U-N!,

Do us all a favor. Have your F-U-N doing something else.

**arcimede$** · 08-26-2012, 04:48 AM

Alan: "Rob has said that perhaps in October he will provide more evidence about his system/method. Really, we can't wait till then and then have something substantial to comment on?"

Rob: "Alan, there's no "math people" who'll be able to tear what I put up apart."

This is how the back down begins. Come October Rob will have even more excuses. How obvious can it get.

BTW, I've been waiting 8 years for some evidence. You really think he's going to provide something now? He's had a decade to provide evidence to answer his detractors and yet hasn't provided one scrap. You don't seriously believe it's all going to magically appear now, do you? You aren't that gullible are you?

**arcimede$** · 08-26-2012, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Do us all a favor. Have your F-U-N doing something else.

As long as we're having F-U-N maybe you should ask Bob why he claimed to live in a 4500 sq' house when he really lived in an apartment. Why he claimed to have a big garage for all his cars (and that VP machine he supposedly tested) when all he had was a car-port. Why would he choose to lie about it?

**Rob.Singer** · 08-26-2012, 08:00 AM

Arci, I said I was returning to Pahrump for a while in Oct. I also said that because I have a healthy, normal wife then that's what my priority is, and I'd get to Az. as life permits. You've had two chances in 8 years to see what I did but you no-showed or ran out the back door both times. So now you wait--but what else do you have planned for the "future" anyway?

I see the chipping away process is enjoying another day here. Now you're fuming so much over my digs, it's my house again. Well, you were on my e-newsletter membership, so remember the house tour video, the big pool & spa, the huge gameroom where healthy couples live lives? Oops! I forgot. That's a past life for you.

**arcimede$** · 08-26-2012, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Arci, I said I was returning to Pahrump for a while in Oct. I also said that because I have a healthy, normal wife then that's what my priority is, and I'd get to Az. as life permits. You've had two chances in 8 years to see what I did but you no-showed or ran out the back door both times. So now you wait--but what else do you have planned for the "future" anyway?

Lies, all lies. The only time I agreed to meet you, YOU backed out.

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I see the chipping away process is enjoying another day here. Now you're fuming so much over my digs, it's my house again. Well, you were on my e-newsletter membership, so remember the house tour video, the big pool & spa, the huge gameroom where healthy couples live lives? Oops! I forgot. That's a past life for you.

Having a pool at your apmt. complex and a game room is quite different than having one in your house. I had the same at my place in Vegas and you used to complain about it being a town-home. Gotcha!

Now, maybe you can explain the lien against you from your apartment complex. We now know why you left to live in a trailer. You couldn't afford living in a 800 sq' one bdr apartment any longer. One wonders why you couldn't come up with a simple monthly payment with all that money you've won. Or, with all that money you claim to have in your IRA. Or, with that big paycheck your wife supposedly was bringing home. Or, maybe it's all been lies ...

Yes, all lies, all the time, and now you've been outed. Chuckle, chuckle ...

**jatki** · 08-26-2012, 08:23 AM

Oh this is so stupid and why I'm doing more reading than posting lately. I'm not a fan of when Rob pokes fun at arc's wife, but then I read arc's continuing pack of lie after lie he tells about him and I can at least see why he punches back with so much force. They're both being children though.

For instance, arc is now making a claim about where Rob lived. But I was a long time member of Singer's e-newsletter and about 2 years ago he did in fact put in a video recording of a tour of his house, which if I'm not mistaken included a 3 or 4 car garage, plenty big enough for a videopoker machine, right arc? His dog was in the video too, in case you're about to say he hates and tortures animals. He even did an update when he started planning for the RV thing and gave the house to his son or daughter. I remember thinking to myself who else in the videopoker business does these things and shows them, so I copied it and put it on the paid side of LV A sports but it was taken down as fast as it went up. So how about we stop this nonsense and arc, please stop calling me stupid names.

**Rob.Singer** · 08-26-2012, 08:37 AM

Well, from arci's last post it looks like it's "mission accomplished" again, as the chipping away process takes another step forward.

Arci you should have paid closer attention to the videos. In that update jatki mentioned, it also showed that we moved into an apt. after turning over the house to my daughter's family while we awaited delivery of our "trailer". And my wife didn't need a wheelchair or dialysis during that time either.

**arcimede$** · 08-26-2012, 08:40 AM

Poor jatki, such a sucker. As I said, those videos were of his apartment complex pool and game room. Good grief, this is the 21st century. Even you can find his old address:

Ironhorse at Tramonto
34807 N 32nd Drive
Phoenix, AZ 85086

And no, his daughter does not live there now. His unit, #1015, is rented out to 3 women. And, you can find out why he left right here:

Robert Argentino
Type: CIVIL JUDGMENT | Amount: $958
Court: NORTH VALLEY JUSTICE COURT
Case Number: CC2011186278
Date Filed: 09/26/2011
Debtor Address: 34807 N 32ND DR APT 1015, PHOENIX, AZ 85086
Creditor: IRONHORSE AT TRAMONTO ALLIANCE R

So, are you going to still be a sucker for all his lies, or are you going to wake up and smell the roses?

**arcimede$** · 08-26-2012, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Well, from arci's last post it looks like it's "mission accomplished" again, as the chipping away process takes another step forward.

Arci you should have paid closer attention to the videos. In that update jatki mentioned, it also showed that we moved into an apt. after turning over the house to my daughter's family while we awaited delivery of our "trailer". And my wife didn't need a wheelchair or dialysis during that time either.

Bwah haha haha haha haha

Only one little problem. You lived in apartments for many years after moving out of your small home in Scottsdale. Got any more lies?

**jatki** · 08-26-2012, 09:11 AM

Arc, you're just sore over what I did to your slot club card con man lie. When he did that video he started it from the front yard and went through the garage, the kitchen, up the stairs and around the top floor where the gameroom was. Then he brought us out back to the pool and patio. He finished it by showing the really nice bar and bbq his son built for him. Now if that was an apartment then I'm your grandmother.

Now after looking over your other posts it does appear that his digs on your wife have been getting to you more than we thought. I don't know and don't care where he lived before or after that big house, but it sure does look like you've been boxed around enough to either put up more lies about him or do more of your famous internet searching. In either case, you lied about the house and it's clear that you'll never say anything truthful about him.

**arcimede$** · 08-26-2012, 09:17 AM

I suspected jatki wouldn't want to admit how wrong he's been. Another ego getting in the way.

Are you really so gullible that you don't know how easy it is to edit a video? I mean, get real. You have to be a complete moron to believe a video represents something real in this day and age. Oh yeah, you believe everything Singer has told you ... case closed.

**Rob.Singer** · 08-26-2012, 09:20 AM

Right you are jatki. Arci must have had enough! But he is helpful at times. For instance, when the RV arrived we broke our lease and left. Even I didn't know there was a judgment on that

But at least we didn't have a dialysis machine to leave behind....

**jatki** · 08-26-2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by arcimede$

I suspected jatki wouldn't want to admit how wrong he's been. Another ego getting in the way.

Are you really so gullible that you don't know how easy it is to edit a video? I mean, get real. You have to be a complete moron to believe a video represents something real in this day and age. Oh yeah, you believe everything Singer has told you ... case closed.

You mean like I was wrong about your slot club con lie?

You saw the video arc, it was a walkaround video. Now you're saying he edits those too? How? I take lots of videos out here and I edit them, but all that does is take you from one place to another rapidly. This is almost as stupid, or just as stupid an accusation, as when you tried to tell everyone on videopoker.com that he and Frank were in cahoots to set up some crazy scam by Frank mailing his book to him, but the problem is Frank doesn't lie and it didn't make sense that anyone would bother doing something like that just to make a posting identity. You've got it bad. Do you make up these lies about him all the time now that you've got all that spare time?

**arcimede$** · 08-26-2012, 09:42 AM