Ok--we have discussed the fact that you feel (correctly) that the special plays have a negative return and will cost future spins (unless I get lucky on a special play). But we also discussed that I usually play on a time table, so my number of spins on any day are set. I leave at 4:00 so any spins I may have lost through special plays would not have occurred. And since I am also on a time table the next time and the next time, I will never get to those lost spins until I drop dead in the casino and then it won't matter.

So again, and I'm not trying to goad you, but I don't see where I've lost anything. I can never attain long term and get those spins, because I leave at a certain time on the clock, and I have never run out of spins and said "I wish I had those 3 spins that Singer cost me".

The other question is how many spins does a special play cost. Is it 1, 3, .28% of 1? What is it--- because I guess you could say when the clock hit 4 and I left and cashed out I would have had another dollar or 2. If so, I'd rather take the shot at a few thousand if it arises.