I thought someone posted a week or so back that Druff had a bad run and was out.
Is he out? Or still in?
I thought someone posted a week or so back that Druff had a bad run and was out.
Is he out? Or still in?
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Check the online poker sites. And stay away from the stalls at Excalibur.
So, what I see is 603rd place. He won $30,000, but these guys sell pieces of their action right? So who knows what his return was and what expenses. Maybe in one of his once a month visits here, Druff will tell us.
I do see where he lists Las Vegas as his hometown. I don't follow or know much about Druff, other than that he is a bad and absentee forum owner, but I was under the impression he lived in Southern California and just visited and spent some time in Vegas as opposed to living here. Maybe he will weigh in on that too.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
On the other hand, maybe Todd had a peice of another player that did well, right?
Is that buying peices of other players public info?
Sure seems like that would lead to a lot of collusion.
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Yes if you buy a piece of someone you have to register it with the SEC.
Don't quote me on this, but I believe in years past Druff "sold" some of his action in the WSOP. I believe I read on his other forum that he DIDN'T sell any of his action LAST YEAR (2023). Not sure about 2024.
The WSOP Main Event is highly +EV for most Pros. The problem being, it is only once a year, with a massively large field of players, the Variance is No Bueno.
Another downside to the main event is the number of days until players are "In the Money". So a player needs to consider their EV as well as their "time commitment". Let's say a low level pro gets back $110 for every $100 he spends on buy ins. For $10k that would be $11k back, or $1k profit. If it's 4 days to hit the money, is $250 per day worth it? If someone is getting $150 in winnings per $100 of buy-Ins, well that's a different story.
Last edited by PositiveVariance; 07-21-2024 at 06:20 PM.
Do you have data to back that up?Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
How many pros are there?
Every Poker player will tell you this (Pro or Amateur). It is well known amongst the Poker community.Originally Posted by coach bellyDo you have data to back that up?Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
How many pros are there?
The amount of Pro's is not an official stat, but I would say it's somewhere around a third. Druff would have a more precise number.
I think he’s mentioned on his radio show before that he doesn’t sell any pieces of himself for the main event.
Does it cost ten grand entry fee?
If so, why would anyone worth a shit need to have an "angel?"
I can understand needing a backer for a high end cash game however.
What, Me Worry?
Variance. Also it is common to swap pieces or buy/sell. If I think you're an equal then we swap a piece to lower our variance and give more sweat out of it. The downside is when you run super deep and have given up a large chunk of $$.Originally Posted by MisterV
Dan’s a winning player anyway so why sell pieces of himself?
Anyone see the Chainsaw tracker results on Allen Kessler?
He sells all kinds of pieces of himself and is negative 6 figures this year on his tournaments cash outs vs buy ins.
Similar results the last couple of years.
Thats the kind of player that wants to sell pieces of himself.
Nothing against him either, just interesting to note.
Sort of like adverse selection.
Last edited by DGenBen; 07-22-2024 at 01:26 AM.
How do you know Dan's a "winning player"? Because he plays in the WSOP? Because he plays online? Because he says he's a pro? Because he claims he wins?
There's many articles explaining how so many....too many of these self-proclaimed "pros" end up broke. And isn't it always someone no one's ever heard of winning the WSOP....proving it's primarily a game of luck? All this "reading player's mannerisms" (doesn't EVERY "aspiring pro" claim to be able to do this better than the next guy) and supposedly hi-level players being able to "compile mathematical edges" when they actually see less than 15% of any deck on any given game, is all poker bullshit.
If the cards don't fall---the player falls. And if the guess is wrong, they aint king kong. That's all it is, and it's as simple as that.
the link is his Wiki page -Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
quote - "as of 2023 his total live tournament winnings exceed $1,018,000"
and referring to the year 2005 - quote - "Witteles set a World Series Poker record, no other player in history has finished better in the first 2 events - he was also named Card Player's Magazine 2005 World Series Poker Player of the Year"
he most definitely is a long term winner - to believe otherwise you would have to believe he lost all of that back in various cash games - very, very unlikely
he is a person who has definitely proven himself to have a degree of greatness about him
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Witteles
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Last edited by Half Smoke; 07-22-2024 at 04:59 AM.
the foolish sayings of a rich man often pass for words of wisdom by the fools around him
Everyone who knows that world knows Dan is a winning player. You're a fool so you don't have the ability.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Seems like a form of dunning-kruger even though I hate to reference that.
This is the same sort of small brain thinking that would lead one to write a book that is absurdly stupid. A strategy that magically changes a game from negative to winning.
Ps. Hopeless fool, we're talking about winning players. I don't think Dan claims to be a pro anymore.
Dan is an admitted tightwad Jew, he will never go broke.Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
That's REAL money from REAL casino play, not stacks of prop cash claimed to have been won from a practice VP machine in your basement.Originally Posted by Half Smoke
What, Me Worry?
Poker players are story tellers.Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
Isn't EV determined using a mathematical calculation?
Well, I am not from THAT world, meaning the poker world and I still know that Dan Druff is a successful winning player.Originally Posted by accountinquestionIt really goes back to that statement that I have make hundreds of times: It doesn't take that much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking.
However, if you are a losing degenerate type gambler, angry and bitter, who doesn't want to figure it out or see what is right in front of you, and can't accept that other players succeed and make money, where you can't, you will never figure it out or at least never admit it. And we have at least two of those people on this forum. And they are very loud with their bitterness and show it frequently
Dan Druff: "there's no question that MDawg has been an obnoxious braggart, and has rubbed a ton of people the wrong way. There's something missing from his stories. Either they're fabricated, grossly exaggerated, or largely incomplete".
Or if not that then statistical methods/assumptions. Clearly when no assumption is required then the answer is accurate vs a guess on some level.Originally Posted by coach bellyPoker players are story tellers.Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
Isn't EV determined using a mathematical calculation?
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