Professional Sportsbetting

[coach belly]

You really are kinda cute

OK sissy-boy...we read you loud and clear.

[Keystone]

You really are kinda cute

OK sissy-boy...we read you loud and clear.

Haha….get lost deadbeat

[MDawg]

In fairness to MDawg, he has definitely proven more about himself than I understand you to have done.

[jdaewoo]

This retard doesn't gamble.

[coach belly]

This retard doesn't gamble.

This retard is a fag.

[jdaewoo]

Why is this retard posting in a sports betting thread? He can't afford to bet on anything.

[coach belly]

He can't afford to bet on anything.

What is woo-woo selling water bottles for these days?

[mickeycrimm]

I think it's 5 years ago now Randy McKay told me he was in Colorado working sportsbetting promotions. He didn't tell me exactly what he was doing but he was there for a few years. So now we have a Risk of Ruin podcast of a twentysomething kid that went to Colorado and made millions sportsbetting. It's a pretty good listen:

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It turns out this kid has been following me on X.

[redietz]

I'm not knocking what this kid did, "running promotions." What I want to do is put numbers in context.

When someone does this, assuming he did, for some reason the "making millions" becomes a remarkable story worthy of being publicized. Well, lots of people "make millions." There are literally thousands of illegal bookmakers in this country who "made millions," and many who currently "make millions." I know some.

Now for some reason, mickey respects the "APs" who flip the odds via promotions and arbitrage and so on, but he doesn't respect the bookmakers who, in reality, are using the same skills and concepts and math to do the same thing, namely make millions, while bookmaking.

Point one is that "making millions" is not that rare. Point Two is that what's rare is the skill set to out-handicap the oddsmakers and win sans the arbitrage and promotions and so on.

What mickey is missing is that anyone who relies on promos and so on to "make millions" is basically doing what bookmakers do, and there are tens of thousands of bookmakers in this country.

When I won the Race to the Super Bowl a few years back and had to use 25K in SB wagers, I shopped props day and night for two weeks because many had $300 limits. So the biggest holes and arbitrage opportunities and plain old "bad lines" had to be scouted, compared with a dozen other sites, and coordinated. It was a torture-fest, basically, and I would never wish that assignment on my worst enemy, yet it sounds as if that's what these guys were doing. All the time.

The thing is, and I'm not knocking these guys, that is not what I do. If that's what I was doing, I'd quit tomorrow. I'd rather work at Wendy's, assuming they'd have me. What these guys were doing is just an accounting grind. If I wanted to do that, I'd have been an accountant.

And mickey, as per usual, misses the gist of why these kinds of bettors get their accounts yanked. How can you not grasp this? Any "accounting-skill" is not something anyone else can piggyback, so of course you are always at risk of being shut down. That's what I've been preaching for decades. Do you not grasp reality? Have you not read Gambling Wizards?

Of course, they were shut down running all these accounts with the style of what they were doing. Now it's an unforeseen bitch that legal bookmakers would screw them like this, but welcome to the jungle. And really, 20 years ago most sites had banned multi-accounting. It doesn't take a genius program to figure out what accounts are linked. And if you are coordinating multiple accounts, you are breaking terms of service, and then, when you get shut down, you are at risk of being screwed. None of this is new or a surprise.

[redietz]

I think, from this story, you get a sense of how fragile and dependent "APing" is. I can't imagine relying on what amounts to the largesse of others to flex my skill set. You are at risk of being shut down at any time, and your skill set becomes completely nullified. This kind of dependency cannot be psychologically or emotionally healthy. You are basically a tumor on the body of institutionalized gambling. Once the institution recognizes you as foreign, you are surgically removed and have no recourse. It becomes a cat-and-mouse game as to how you can reinfect the body.

[jdaewoo]

And in doing so you accumulate millions of dollars. What's the fucking problem exactly?

[redietz]

And in doing so you accumulate millions of dollars. What's the fucking problem exactly?

It's clearly past tense. It's unlikely to be duplicated or repeated. You risk having your funds confiscated in their entirety, whether you have won or not, by following this blueprint.

If anything, every book has now instituted the same legal language that justifies their seizing your assets if you follow this blueprint. So things are much worse than just a few years ago.

That, in a nutshell, is the fucking problem.

Now jdaewoo, you are not a maroon, so next time please take the 30 seconds to think on the issue.

Next time I visit the Nugget, you can thank me by sending a Starbucks gift card to cover their $7 coffees. That's my "AP" play. When I give obvious advice, I request $7 coffees. If I give non-obvious advice, I request a hot chocolate. And a danish.

[kewlJ]

Bob Dietz's responses this morning to this young man's sports betting advantage play success are assine. But just what most of us expected. This "kid" is an AP who found, no make that made an advantage in sports betting. He made millions before a land based casino in the U.S. (probably illegally) confiscated a couple million. And as an AP, he will adjust and move onto the next advantage.

Dietz doesn't seem to have a clue AGAIN what advantage play is about. First and foremost, it is about making money! Meanwhile Dietz sits there saying it can't be duplicated and telling us how he is in 24th place in some contest, but somehow can't pay his $500 property tax bill.

And I have news for you Dietz, THIS comment "You are at risk of being shut down at any time, and your skill set becomes completely nullified." IS what advantage play is about. AP's are constantly at war with casinos and sports books who are looking to shut them down. You have NEVER understood that Bob Dietz. You have NEVER understood what it is to be an advantage player.

And frankly this is exactly why Mdawgs fantasy fiction story of casinos sitting there watching him win millions of dollars and because he plays rated knowing EXACTLY what he wins, comping him out the ass and allowing it, is so offensive to real players. In what alternative universe does THAT happen?

[MDawg]

Get help.

[jdaewoo]

This retard is a closeted homosexual.

[TomasHClines]

When I give obvious advice, I request $7 coffees. If I give non-obvious advice, I request a hot chocolate. And a Danish.

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[TomasHClines]

Holy shit, speaking of craziness, I, just, had a lawyer ask me to consent to something, but, she made the mistake of following up with something like "may seek a motion otherwise", to which I told her that I don't take orders from mankind, and, so, since you threatened me, you best hop to it. Ha. (A bunch of lawyers involved, so had to make an example of her.)

[mickeycrimm]

What redietz is missing is the kid didn't go to Colorado with millions of dollars. He went to Colorado and beat the books for millions of dollars. The money they confiscated was money they had lost to him. But they didn't get it all back. He's still in action....and he has a lot more experience under his belt. The one knock is he should have had all or most of the money pulled down at that stage of the game. He was on his first rodeo. He'll know better from now on.

There were a lot of guys holed up in Colorado. I know Randy did well. But he's in his 50's with a lot of experience. He knows how to avoid the traps. He's currently playing the Circa Grandissimo, 100K entry fee. That should tell you where he's at in today's sports betting world.

Chinamaniac, who anyone can follow and read online, has emphasized forever that getting money confiscated is part of the cost of doing business. If redietz were to ask Munchkin about it he would get the same answer.

[accountinquestion]

What redietz is missing is the kid didn't go to Colorado with millions of dollars. He went to Colorado and beat the books for millions of dollars. The money they confiscated was money they had lost to him. But they didn't get it all back. He's still in action....and he has a lot more experience under his belt. The one knock is he should have had all or most of the money pulled down at that stage of the game. He was on his first rodeo. He'll know better from now on.

There were a lot of guys holed up in Colorado. I know Randy did well. But he's in his 50's with a lot of experience. He knows how to avoid the traps. He's currently playing the Circa Grandissimo, 100K entry fee. That should tell you where he's at in today's sports betting world.

Chinamaniac, who anyone can follow and read online, has emphasized forever that getting money confiscated is part of the cost of doing business. If redietz were to ask Munchkin about it he would get the same answer.

He speaks of all these reasons sports bettors don't succeed if not doing his schtick but has he ever explained why he needs investment money after decades in the game?

[TomasHClines]

What redietz is missing is the kid didn't go to Colorado with millions of dollars. He went to Colorado and beat the books for millions of dollars.

Mickey, you're going to die with a slot machine handle/button in your hand. Or typing on about a bunch of sports betting nonsense, let alone to another fantasy internet character such as Redietz. The only millions of dollars are in your sad dreams, nay, nightmares.