Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
Your 2.2 million number is off by at least 2.1 million.
Mickey are you intentionally being misleading or failing to understand what occurred and what the options are? I hope it is the latter. We don't need another person intentionally misleading and twisting the facts.

Back in early March the model that is being used by Trump and the government showed 2 choices.

1.) we do nothing and 2.2 million people die.

2.) we shutdown and 60,000 to $100,000 people die. (the number was initially 100k and later revised to 60k)

So the decision (right or wrong) was to shut down. And having done so, the death rate slowed and it looks like it will come in right were projected between 60k and 100k, if we stay the course.

What you are doing is saying "see the model was wrong. It said 2.2 million deaths and we are only going to have 60-100k" The models were not wrong...they have been spot on. 2.2 million deaths if we did nothing! 60-100k if we shutdown.

Now it is more that fair to argue that we should not have shut down. That was my initial argument. You can say 2.2 million death is for lack of a better term "acceptable losses". But you can't take the reduced losses from shutting down and say that is why we shouldn't have shut down.

If you'll note, kewlj, mickey didn't quote me as having said that because he couldn't find anywhere where I actually said it. He has repeated this several times, but it was THE PRESIDENT who used the 2.2 million figure, not me.

Mickey been doing this kind of stuff for awhile now.
What about the more than 10 million cases predicted, redietz? Are you saying you didn't say that?

And you have made absolutely no comment here on the correct math of the situation, all deaths considered in the time frame of the shutdown, not just the coronavirus deaths. Why are you hiding from that? The 2.2 million is the only thing in my post you have disputed. That says a lot.