Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
Originally Posted by Darkoz View Post
I said$20,000 per week.

Must hits for me are my backup plan in case multi-carding ends. An AP they won't say I break any rules for.

And I admit they are kind of fun. I don't even do the multi-carding myself anymore. Let other people handle that
So Darkey, who on this forum do you think is the biggest net income AP. You, Axelass, Kewlj, jbjb, Eliot, MickeyCrimm, or whoever else I missed?

As an outsider looking into the AP world, I can’t help but believe everyone of you are struggling if gambling is your only income. I’m sure there are highs and lows just like any other gambler. Yet, for the most part if anyone of you held the golden goose there is no way you would be on this and other forums talking shit about your success. I don’t pay much attention to the claims and clues AP’s leave on forums, but I’m sure there are others that pay attention and know how to capitalize on your leaks. That’s if anything you say is even true in the first place.

The fact that the AP’s that talk on these sites the way they do is enough to confirm they just can’t be that fucking stupid, or just don’t care because there’s nothing to lose.

In the real world of business secrets do exist, and are on a need to know only basis. I couldn’t imagine a forum where business owners (not gamblers) would go back and forth with trade tricks and secrets so everyone on the internet could have the opportunity to water down anyone’s income. I’ve learned things that took me years of mistakes to catch on. I’ve had good and close friends call and ask me if I was familiar with a certain issue I learned after years of experience. My answer was always no idea. You had to be a direct blood relative on the team to get that info. After costing me a ton of time and money to learn I’m not ever giving that info away during one phone call or post on a forum. That information is priceless as far as I’m concerned.

My opinion is you AP’s live close to the cliff, have zero longtime security, live life never knowing when you’ll be forced into the gutter again, or forced to work at a Mickey D’s. You have to be a fool to read these gambling forums and all the nonsense daily about who makes more than who, who’s a winner who’s a loser, prove this, prove that, then throw in the fact that almost everyone is anonymous; fool would be a generous word to describe anyone that’s buying this bullshit.

Other than AP’s like Darkie and Axelass who must have so many millions by now the future is already secured between their mattress where nothing matters anymore one way or the other.

Darkie, how is it you seem to get so many must hit machines in a timely fashion? Does the casino hold them for you when their juicy?

Everything I discussed above is also irrelevant, since any response will always be viewed as anonymous bullshit. The same bullshit this entire site is based on.
Well, your post has some sincerity for a change so I will give some answers (you probably won't consider them honest even though they are)

As an AP looking out, you are the person who keeps my income going. A player who believes I am a fantasy, who believes Gamblers are losers and who gives the casinos their hard earned income because that's just the way it is.

Without players like you the casinos would fold and AP' would be out of work.

I don't know what the net worth is of any other poster. I have said before on here I am comfortable. For some posters that means I am worth net millions. Comfortable is a subjective term.

I have taken millions from casinos but I also have spent and lost a lot money (a robbery included). But I am comfortable. I have no problem paying $1500 for a ten cent comic book from the 1950's to add to my collection of nearly 4,000 comics or paying $3,000 for antique working projectors, taking the family on a $30,000 week long trip to Disneyland.

I spend a bit too much is my point. As for Axel, he has been doing this longer than me so I am certain he has taken more from casinos but I don't know his current net worth. It's probably more than mine. I'm not competing with him believe it or not. I brag but I recognize there are other successful (perhaps more successful) AP's out there. (MDawg is just a bullshit con artist but what really irks me is you don't seem to call him out ever which makes me question your motives for finding AP's suspect. The real liar is right under your nose)

Business secrets. If I actually have away too many then you wouldn't be doubting me. You would be going to the casinos and trying them out for yourself. Knowing a secret exist doesn't mean everyone can figure it out.

And if everyone knows how to do a secret that doesn't mean everyone has the means to do it.

Do you know that Coke a cola has a secret formula? Have they made a mistake business wise by letting people know a secret formula exists? Hardly.

Do you know it's possible to make an atom bomb? Do you know the secret for doing so? If you did know the secret would you have the means, (plutonium or uranium plus scientific tools and knowledge) to build one?

There are plenty of secrets that even while being known to exist still can't be shared for various purposes.

As to hanging on a cliff, that's life for most, yes, even rich people.

Circuit City, Blockbuster Video, United Artists studios, hell plenty of billion dollar businesses that went belly up.

Bear/Stern's, Fannie May anyone?

The pandemic proved most of America would go belly up in a few weeks

If you wish to compare AP's with the real world the fact is we are further from the edge than most because of our proximity to the edge.

That sounds like an oxymoron but the person who lives near the ocean is more prepared for a flood than the person who lives inland. When a flood occurs to both, guess who survived better?

To answer your must hit question, no the casinos don't hold the seata for me. I have low paid spotters, (locals to the casino who regularly text me must hit machine meters), so I have an idea when to go. And they can sit and hold a machine if I am not too far away.

See, an AP comes up with simple solutions often enough.