$40k VP hit for me

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Oddly enough, I did see 100% JOB at the Atlantis (Reno) at one time. IIRC, they boosted the straight flush enough to make it 100% (9/6 with a boosted SF). I'm sure other VCT members have probably come across this paytable in bygone years also.

No doubt.
I know of a couple 10/6 JoBs still around but its rare.
I know you know all of this.
It's sort of like holding 9/10 suited in certain VP games or a 3 Flush.
People that aren't involved don't get it.
Same thing when you say Full Pay and refer to a game under 100% return.
Technically speaking 8/5 Bonus Poker is Full Pay even though it has a 99.17% return.
I think people confuse the word "Return" with "Full Pay".
Sort of like how some people don't like when VP players say "I flopped a quad."
They want to argue that you were dealt a quad.
It's an obvious disconnect of semantics.
I mean FPDW is 100.76% Return but you refer to the game as Full Pay even though its over 100% Return.
I guess one could argue that its actually an Over Pay Game.
Finding a machine that had "Overpays" were fun back in the era of coins!
Cash-out, Cash-out, Cash-out...

I've told the story before but nobody cares.
A friend of mine figured out how to deflect the coins with a coin so you wouldn't cut up your fingers.
We made a few dollars at the bars in those days.
Those were the days of getting black out drunk and watching my pal throw 4,000 dollars in the streets of Reno.
I think he watched "The only game in town" one too many times.
I've witnessed his real life runs at the dice table going from his case 10k to walking out with 400k back to Flat Out Busted inside of 2 months lol.
If you ever seen that movie about Vegas and Degenerate gambling you might understand.
Warren Beatty makes a paper boat out of a 100 dollar bill and floats it down to the storm drain outside Caesars Palace, if I remember correctly.
Pretty good movie that captures our lifestyle choice.
Interesting note is that he is playing dice exactly where they shot James Caan and his Black Jack run in the Gambler.
The two movies are only about 4 years apart from one another.
Full Movie on Youtube...

Thanks Monet, I will watch this one (The Only Game in Town - I've already seen The Gambler and its John Goodman remake). Yes nine-ten suited. One Eyed Jacks has this sort of thing (more often with clubs and diamonds). Definitely a trait of wild card games with two wild cards (double joker poker also has these types of holds of course). And some non-wild card games as you mentioned (USA/All American for example). And then there is the one-card-hold low card shit that you might encounter in a game like two pair joker poker - there would have to be a very good reason for me to study this game and learn it well. Well I'm ranting, you know all of this already.

Full Pay - my take on the definition of this is "the best pay table you can find on the given theme that is not Unicorn rare". I'm sure VP experts like Dancer or Shackleford can come up with something better or already have.

I've heard people online refer to Super Pay pay tables in VP - these are always player-positive EV pay tables (Monet's 10/6 Vegas JOB is a perfect example of this IMHO).