Originally Posted by monet View Post
Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
So perhaps a better answer to Monet's inquiry would have been "We have to wait for more data to come in, in order to answer that question definitively" rather than making the calculations for deaths and cases using preliminary (projected) U.S. STC death and case data. I would like to know what data source is being used to make the determination that U.S. STCs are up 500% in 2021.
I was happy to have you comment on my question and back up the statistics.
I read that in comments and was highly suspect of 500%.
And I couldn't find anything to back up the statement.
I was curious and I figured the data probably hadn't moved very much up or down.
Thanks for taking the time to look into the matter for me though.
I appreciate it.

My main worry is the downright discrimination of unvaccinated people.
It certainly is a Civil Rights Issue no matter what the opposition says or thinks about it.
No problem Monet anytime. I am not clear on the reporting requirements for these maladies like STC. Maybe providers have a couple years to send in the data to the government for diagnosis and procedures they perform so that not all the data has been reported yet. We are almost at the end of the year so I would think a fairly large percentage of the data has already been reported (say 80%), and I doubt there would be much change for the remaing 20% of data to be reported. So right now we know that there has been a 33% increase in the STC case rate since 2018 (3 versus 4 for the U.S. STC case rate) which is definitely significant.
So one scenario then is that Yeadon's hypothesis regarding this is correct and it will take a 2 or 3 years for the STCs to start to develop in people who got vaccinated and so 2024 might be when the large increases start to get observed.
Another scenario which is not mutually exclusive to the latency scenario above is that STCs are currently being under-reported because people are not able to get in to see providers to get a diagnosis even though they might already have developed tumors.
What would be really interesting would be to stratify the chart posted above for vaccinated versus unvaccinated such that you have 4 lines on the graph rather than 2 lines: U.S. STC death rates and case rates for vaccinated individuals and U.S. STC death rates and case rates for unvaccinated individuals (for each year). But vaccinated information might not have been sent in or may be incomplete so that such a stratification can't yet be produced.