Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
Originally Posted by Seedvalue View Post
Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
YES I DID! Axelwolf has also come back to this several times. I spelled out exactly what my rollover amounts where and why: because I had a history of being a losing sport bettor for several years at several of the sportsbooks. I didn't exactly say it was 4x rollover at one and 6 times at another because I didn't want to be that specific in fear of anything being tied to me. I doubt sportsbooks in costa Ricos or wherever are reading VCT, but I just didn't want to say that, while that play was active just in case.

The rollover and bonuses I received at 2 of the books where NOT offers shown or available on their websites. I received them because of several years as a losing player, just as a losing slot player for years at a brick and mortor might receive better offers than the normal. When I decided to bonus whore this year, several previous losing years benefited me.

In one case, not going to say which one, I received an email from "my host" at the sportsbook at the start of football season saying he had good offers available if I was interested. When I responded, he said 8 x rollover. I said no thanks, I have better than that at another sportsbook I am using and then he dropped it to 4x. Before he dropped it I wasn't even planning on playing that sportsbook.

A player, especially with a losing track record can negotiate terms differently, significantly better than posted. I happened to take advantage of that the first time I decided to bonus whore. What is so hard about that to understand?

I am now into (well into) my second round and the rollovers aren't quite so good. I am going to have to be very close to 50/.50 (hopefully above) to make any real money.

So fuck you Soxfan. I have explained, just as I always do. It is just some of you haters don't want to hear and accept what you dont want to hear.

Hey Hey!
Can’t believe I’m confirming this fairytale writer However what he’s talking about in regards to host offers in the sports book based on slot loss in a casino is something I have worked with teams of people. Chances are Kew read about it somewhere tho and didn’t actually do anything.
To expand on this and to once again highlight the advantages of working with a good team just imagine the possibilities of this play. If you have the knowledge of how every level of a particular rewards program works with unlimited people. Tell me again how individuals make more money then a well oiled team of APs working together. Yes it involves many working parts with in many cases incomplete information but everything can be worked out. Teams are betting then individuals
Recruit guys with a history of working with teams in a highly competitive environment. Those people if they were high performers are insanely loyal and driven. They don’t have a rat bone in their body. The ideal teammate in AP is not the awkward shy introverted math geek. This beta will fold the moment a suit approaches them. Get those guys to work out the math for you behind the scenes. That’s what they are good at. Don’t train or recruit these types of people to actually do shit In a casino