Originally Posted by redietz View Post
Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

I highly doubt there is someone sitting at a computer in the pit (or even upstairs) that is googling everyone from their Id.

But I also feel like Druff isn't providing as much information as he can. And that is fine. He may have reasons to.

Personally I would like to know more about the "independent casino" comment. Are we talking Mohegan Sun (virgin), or Palms, T.I. or M resort that have no other sister type properties here in Vegas, or are we talking truly independent like Strat, F Bleu? Oh wait, is Strat associated with somebody like Az Charlie? I forget. How about Sahara? Anyway, would need to know Druff's definition of independent.

But on the other hand, no casino that relies heavily on database info is really independent.

I would also ask, any backoffs or heat anywhere recently? Or even in last year or two? If you play Vegas regularly, you will see pit folks that you recognize from other properties. They do move around, get laid off, take new jobs ect. especially when a new casino opens. I know a player that was backed off a place he thought he was good at only to discover someone in the pit that he had previously had a nasty backoff with at another casino. So THAT happens.

But to me, taking Druff at his word (and I do) and hoping he isn't leaving a major part of the story out, The thing that stands out most to me, is CSMs at every table except this one, where there was seemingly a good playable game. That is a bit of a red flag to me.
Druff is good at leaving out the Paul Harvey portion (yea old reference) at times. But he usually reveals it later after comments. Not sure if he will in this case though.

I’m actually shocked you can’t figure out the casino from his clues. Granted with that description it wouldn’t be in your rotation, but I figured you visit them all occasionally to see if anything changed and keep a database.

Why would any casino do this so early in a session? If they have Todd's personal profile on file, they have to know that he spends money on restaurants and such, so asking him to step away when he's betting $25 a hand is just costing them more money than they protect here.

Maybe the answers lie in, as someone said, the definition of "independent" or in, as you say, Paul Harvey's "the rest of the story."
I don't blame them for banning me if they realized I was likely to be a counter.

I'm just wondering how it happened, given my (very light and ancient) history there.

I can tell you for certain that this casino is extremely paranoid and protective of their one non-CSM table. It would actually not surprise me if their surveillance staff was hyper focused on that table, and really did google any new player. Again, it's also possible (and in fact more likely) that someone up there knew me or knew of me, and said, "Fuck no... this guy is only playing because it's +EV for him."