Originally Posted by mcap View Post

Come on man. Redeitz was going to great lengths to deliver Alan packages of this stuff.
But what does that "stuff" prove? Forget that the 'package' of documentation Red sent or tried to send Alan was 35 years old at the time, what does it prove? I am not doubting Red did will in the 1983 contest he frequently references, with results on the newsstands at supermarket checkouts.

But what does that prove? Does it prove or in any way indicate that Robert Dietz has made a living betting sports for 50 years now? Or does it prove he did well in whatever cherry-picked contest he is throwing our way?

To me all that proves, is that he did well in a few contests, and the fact that he hangs onto that information/documentation is for one reason only. To use as a tool or marketing aid to attract new "clients".


I feel uncomfortable asking anyone on an anonymous forum/message board to prove anything. No one is on trial. And if he were really a professional sports bettor, making a living betting sports, he has a right to that anonymity, so he can keep doing so.

BUT, Redietz threw that anonymity out the window years ago when he started posting not only his real name, but his address. Today he went even further and posted a phone number. So anonymity isn't an issue. That being the case, is there anything beside some 30-40 year old contest results that even hints that this guy has made a living in the sports betting arena. And again, I don't really consider marketing and soliciting of clients selling a service as "in the sports betting arena".

All we really seem to be getting is him telling us that everyone else is out of their league....out of his league and don't know what we are talking about.