Alan Mendelson Math question for casino players: if you made $100 bets at a game with a return of 99.9% and the casino gave you $20 on every bet you lose as a loss rebate, would you be a winner?

Jason H. Mendelson Plug it into a payable calculator with a high hand paying .2... Yes you will find you would be a huge winner.

Alan Mendelson You lose $100 and get back $20 each time you lose. That's a net loss of $80.

Jason H. Mendelson Are you talking about a single have it over the lifetime of the game? Be specific if you are going to come up with ridiculous questions

Jason H. Mendelson Single hand

Jason H. Mendelson A single hand or over the lifetime of the game

Alan Mendelson Each time you lose you lose $80. The overall payback on the game is 99.9%
What's the difference if it's a single hand or a million hands?

Jason H. Mendelson Because for each of those losing hands rather than getting nothing you get back 20% of the bet. There are much more losing hands than winning... So if it's 99.9% getting nothing for the losing hands you're now getting money back for losing. I don't think you understand your own question.

Alan Mendelson You bet 100 and when you lose you get back 20. That's a net loss of 80. How does that 20 rebate make you whole?

Jason H. Mendelson Ok... What about when you get .1% cash back? You are talking about a greater amount

Jason H. Mendelson Return goes from 99.54% on Jack's or Better to 110.53%

Jason H. Mendelson Standard 9/6 Jack's
[WOO picture showing 99.54% return]

Jason H. Mendelson Where losing hands pay 20% of the bet (1 coin)
[WOO picture showing 110% return]

Alan Mendelson Instead of losing $100 per loss you lose $80. It's still a negative expectation game.

Jason H. Mendelson You should not gamble... You don't understand how it works

Jason H. Mendelson Call me when you can and I'll explain...