Okay, Alan, since you fail to understand the Zappos gift card thing, despite numerous posts on the matter, I'll explain in even simpler terms.

Let's say there was a casino with 8/5 Bonus Poker at the $5 level, meaning $25/hand.

Now let's say each hand you played at max bet ($25), they would give you a $25 Zappos card.

Would you play that machine all day and all night?

Unless you're a complete fucking idiot, the answer would be YES.

Why?

Because it would be almost a freeroll. Even if you lost the hand, you'd get a $25 Zappos gift card, which you could sell for at least $20.

Now, that wasn't the play. I'm using an extreme example.

But let's change it to a $5 Zappos card for each $25 coin into the machine. Would you play that?

Again, yes. That would again be huge value.

So it was something like that, except not as straightforward and obvious.

But yes, the situation was very +EV -- whether you keep the Zappos cards (because you have use for them) or sell them at approximately 80%.

If you still can't understand, I can't help you.