question for math guys

[arcimede$]

Arc, this should end the conversation right here. You wrote:

"No one cares if YOU use win/loss goals. However, when you claim they make a difference in a person's expectation then you are lying."

Well, Arc, NO ONE ever said win goals or loss limits make a difference in a person's expectation. I never said it, Singer never said it. I don't think ANYONE ever said it.

You've both said there's no reason a person can't keep hitting win goals and winning session after session have you not? What did you mean by this? Are you saying that you accidentally omitted mentioning all the losing sessions required to bring a game to a negative expectation?

The only thing loss limits and win goals do is allow the player to have more control over what happens to them in the casino instead of just allowing the RNG to decide it for them. And that's the truth Arc, because even if you know perfect strategy and apply it each and every time, it still all depends on the RNG.

You just contradicted yourself. First you said "allow the player to have more control" and then you said "it still all depends on the RNG". If it all depends on the RNG what control have you provided with win/loss goals? The answer is none but I don't think you will ever accept reality. You don't want it to be true so you ignore the facts and end up contradicting yourself like some bumbling idiot.

What I can't understand is why you think, for some reason, that the "math of the game" tells you not to employ loss limits or win goals ...

What I've told is the math of the game tells you IT DOESN'T MATTER. Pay attention. If you want to employ them that's fine, just don't think it will make a difference over any other method.

... and you somehow think that loss limits and win goals don't apply to you or anyone playing a positive expectation game? You have said for yourself that there is no guarantee that you will win on a positive expectation game yet you preach your "high probability" of winning? Well, just how high is it on a RANDOM game?

The probability of winning (making any kind of profit) is based on the amount of the edge and increases as the number of hands increase. This is simple math, Alan. Since the probability of winning increases with more hands played why would you want to have any limits?

It's almost laughable that you thought you were making some kind of point by putting random in all caps. The randomness is key to our ability to compute the probabilities.