Advantage play / cheating / crime....where is the line?

[unowme]

Here's some examples of unethical behavior by casinos. And I'm bypassing the whole addiction, plying people with alcohol/hookers/love stuff. .

No need to bypass the 'whole addiction stuff'. That's at the heart of most everything the industry does. Here's an article from a couple of years back. "How casinos enable gambling addicts"

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...it-all/505814/

It discusses the many ways the casino industry attempts to manipulate compulsive gamblers. It's a good read. Here's an interesting quote..."The business plan for casinos is not based on the occasional gambler. The business plan for casinos is based on the addicted gambler." Just like the Tobacco industry has made billions selling poison to addicted smokers. Is that ethical? Is it moral? It's clearly legal.

Making the Casino Industry out to be some paragon of ethics and virtue is really blind to what they do. They do anything possible to legally separate gamblers from their money...from targeting compulsive gamblers to plying whales with alcohol until they are blackout drunk. I'm not going to judge them for that though. As long as it's legal. Just like I'm not going to criticize gamblers for doing everything they can do legally to separate the casino from their money. Turnabout is fair play.

This posts and the attached articles are classic liberalism 101. Using this logic, the airline industry is trying to make people “addicted” to flying with their frequent flier program; hotels are trying make people “addicted” to staying in their hotels with their frequent point programs. I guess you could say all retail shops are trying to get us “addicted” to shopping at their stores since they all have loyalty cards. Casinos aren’t the only industry trying to drive business through loyalty cards.

Here’s another business lesson for the all the APs that don’t understand how business works. All businesses make the majority of their profit from their most loyal customers. In liberal jargon, these are consider “addicted” customers. Of course, the casinos are trying to drive more business from their most loyal customers. All businesses do this. Amazon is really good at this. I’m “addicted” to many of their programs. I wonder if there is a seven step help program to help with my Amazon “addiction”. Lol

Like I said, I never knew the AP community was so liberal. I get all of them aren’t liberals, but the vast majority are. They don’t believe in personal accountability. It’s always the business fault when an individual does something stupid. Liberals don’t believe people are capable of thinking for themselves.

Being a proud conservative, I have more respect and confidence in the individual than most people. I also believe in freedom, which I know isn’t the case for most liberals. They want to impose their beliefs on the rest of society.

I don't see how you can possibly turn my post into some 'liberal vs conservative' diatribe. Did you even read what I wrote? "They do anything possible to legally separate gamblers from their money...from targeting compulsive gamblers to plying whales with alcohol until they are blackout drunk. I'm not going to judge them for that though. As long as it's legal. "

I'm just pointing out to the moralists who think exploiting the double up flaw is somehow immoral or cheating that the Casinos are not Angels either. And I'm OK with that. How you could possibly divine that I am a liberal from pointing out the obvious fact that Casinos try to legally take advantage of some gamblers and some gamblers try to legally take advantage of the casinos? Just like I don't have a problem with Cigarette companies selling poison to addicted customers. That's their business.

But don't you go moralizing about a Video Poker play that appears to be perfectly legal but the poor casinos lose money on because they screwed up. Don't you think the Casinos and Game King have a responsibility to make sure their machines work the way they think they do? Or is it the Gambler's job to point that out to them? I don't think so. Responsibility works both ways.

Now, if you really are a proud conservative who believes in personal responsibility, then I'm sure you agree all drugs should be 'legalized' and it's up to the individual to decide whether he wants to use or abuse them....as long as he isn't hurting anyone, why should the Government even be involved, right? Same goes for prostitution. Same goes for gambling. Right? That's what I believe anyway. Not some liberal nanny state where the gubmint tries to run our lives.